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10-30-2004, 21:18
Linux on Windows???? HUH???

10-30-2004, 22:53
MS Virtual Server.

Ought to be fun to play with.,1995,1644184,00.asp

10-31-2004, 00:27
sort of reminds me of cygwin.

10-31-2004, 09:01
As the title bar says from the pic, that is Microsoft Virtual PC 2004.
It actually works pretty good. I have several flavors on linux installed on VPC on my WinXP machine.

Check it out, you can get a free 45 day trial of the software from here:

10-31-2004, 17:19
Yup MS bought Connectix and then re-released Virtual PC under their own name - it works very well. I use it at work on all of the lab PCs so my agents can pull up any OS their customers have - in case they forget them.

10-31-2004, 21:42
Anybody know if it comes with the MSDN?

10-31-2004, 22:07
Originally posted by NGWT
Anybody know if it comes with the MSDN?

I have access to it through Academic MSDN, so I would assume so.

11-01-2004, 00:07
Yes, but do you have the same control over diskwriting and other permissions?

Can these virual OSes be hardened from SSH and other exploits like a properly set-up Debian or Slackware install can be?

I doubt that...but until I have all the data to peruse I won't rule it out.

I'll just stick with my separate / and /home partitions for now...;)

What is the biggest advantage to this? I mean, it sounds like you are basically polluting a good Linux kernel by possibly running it in an unsecure environment full of viruses and assorted other malware, not to mention a system afloat in security holes...

Would this be a detriment to XP in any way? After all, the XP OS is fairly easy to comandeer, and an unsecured Linux kernel can be just as shaky from a security standpoint...

Though I might try setting up a virtual Smooth Wall OS to access the Web on an otherwise XP box, then route the XP's TCP connection to see the ports I have filtered but left open in SW...seems like that might be a good use for this sort of thing.

Until then I'll stick to my standalone SW firewall.

Thanks in advance,

FastVFR, The Skeptical Kernelhacker

11-01-2004, 09:28
fastfvr, you raise some good questions. However, I thought it was kinda cool, unique etc... Other than what one poster said about running several OS's for tech support so that tech could see what the customer is seeing, I cannot think of a single real world application that you would need it or want it.

Why would I take a machine, load windows on it, and then run a virtual PC with Linux. I can't think of a real world application for it. Other than for brief testing etc...

Just kinda fun for me to play with.

11-01-2004, 10:37
Yes - full version is available through MSDN.