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G33
11-18-2004, 09:19
Not anywhere close to finished yet, but the writer has a Glock 21 with 13 rounds in Chapter 15. Pretty close for a writer.

bluemeanie
11-18-2004, 09:42
I've stopped short of writing to complement writers who do at least 5 minutes' worth of gun research before including a gun in the plot.
In recent memory, only T. Jefferson Parker and Stephen Hunter have failed to irritate me.

G33
12-11-2004, 00:17
Finished Code tonight.
Pretty good.
Interesting weave of fiction, myth and history.
Enjoy.

Generalcarry
12-18-2004, 17:03
This "post" reader of the Di Vinci Code has a G21 with 12 in the magazine and 1 in the tube in the nightstand as we speak.
Just ordered Brown's first book that was prior to, but along the same vain, as the D. Code.

Another19
12-20-2004, 22:32
Originally posted by Generalcarry
This "post" reader of the Di Vinci Code has a G21 with 12 in the magazine and 1 in the tube in the nightstand as we speak.
Just ordered Brown's first book that was prior to, but along the same vain, as the D. Code.

I read Angels and Demons before The DaVinci Code, and liked it better. There are a couple of referenced to the events of Angels and Demons in The DaVinci Code, but it doesn't matter what order you read them in. I'm interested to see which book most people enjoy more. I may have liked Angels and Demons better because it introduced me to the character and Dan Brown's style of writing. It seems the first I read is always the best, regardless of which was written first.

G33
12-20-2004, 23:36
I liked A&D better.
Hard to put my finger on why however.

Generalcarry
12-21-2004, 05:44
Everyone I've talked to says the first one is the best. I graduated for a small Catholic school 40+ years ago and still see a few people (47 in my HS grad. class) and there are a couple who are still mad at me for reading it. I guess the older you get the less chance you want to take at ticking off the Man.
I ordered Dennis Brown's 1st two books as well. I read the 3rd book (Sacred) and now I would like to follow the correct order as it seems his previous books are used for reference. So many books so little time! I volunteer at the library where I live so I get some great deals but, the books I think I'll be keeping, I like to get new. Kinda like buying a new car!
I also ordered Leo LaPorte's almanac and a couple Tower of Power CD's.

Dexters
12-21-2004, 07:03
Originally posted by Another19
I read Angels and Demons before The DaVinci Code, and liked it better. There are a couple of referenced to the events of Angels and Demons in The DaVinci Code, but it doesn't matter what order you read them in. I'm interested to see which book most people enjoy more. I may have liked Angels and Demons better because it introduced me to the character and Dan Brown's style of writing. It seems the first I read is always the best, regardless of which was written first.

I haven't read the "DaVinci Code" yet but I have read "Angels and Demons". It was a good read up until the end. I found 3 points that weakened the story. It was awhile ago so I don't remember the names
1. It wasn't explained how the priest (ass't to the pope) found the perfect asassin.
2. It wasn't explained how the priest decoded the Illumiatti infomation that took some good researh and great knowlege of the hero.
3. The hero's jump out of the helicopter, how he did it and what he did next - was a bit much.

After reading "Angels and Demons" I can understand why it wasn't published until after the "Code".

Glockgirl26
12-21-2004, 08:34
DaVinci Code was awesome, a real page turner. Angels and Demons was great too. Dan Brown's other two books were good, I would recommend all of them.

Number 6
12-29-2004, 23:07
is it just me because the guy that wrote "davinci" (dan brown?) is easily one of the worst writers i ever slogged through. the premise of the book was interesting but i kept getting the vision of a guy beating on a piano with a hammer because he couldn't play...

Another19
12-29-2004, 23:50
Originally posted by Number 6
is it just me because the guy that wrote "davinci" (dan brown?) is easily one of the worst writers i ever slogged through. the premise of the book was interesting but i kept getting the vision of a guy beating on a piano with a hammer because he couldn't play...

This is the first time I've heard anyone say they didn't like it! It was so interesting (even if not completely accurate) and fun that I didn't really even notice if he is a "good writer". But, my definition of a good writer is pretty simple - one I enjoy reading.

Another19
12-29-2004, 23:53
Originally posted by Dexters
I haven't read the "DaVinci Code" yet but I have read "Angels and Demons". It was a good read up until the end. I found 3 points that weakened the story. It was awhile ago so I don't remember the names
1. It wasn't explained how the priest (ass't to the pope) found the perfect asassin.
2. It wasn't explained how the priest decoded the Illumiatti infomation that took some good researh and great knowlege of the hero.
3. The hero's jump out of the helicopter, how he did it and what he did next - was a bit much.

After reading "Angels and Demons" I can understand why it wasn't published until after the "Code".

I agree that there were weaknesses, but for some reason I didn't care. Usually I can't continue to read a book that has holes or things like the jump from the helicopter. I think maybe it was the history that was intermingled with the story that kept me turning the pages. I'm not sure how accurate his historical facts were, I guess I'm going to have to do a little research to find out.

sheglocker
01-10-2005, 22:32
The most fun part of reading The Da Vinci Code is to go to Dan Brown's website after. There's some fun little "challenges" that you can do. It helps to have a copy with the cover in front of you.

http://www.randomhouse.com/doubleday/davinci/

Another good book by him, but totally different, is Digital Fortress. It's one of those so real it's creepy kind of books. I think you can read about it on his site, too.

Hummer
01-10-2005, 22:53
If I recall correctly, the one reference in the DaVinci Code to palming the Glock included something like, "I released the safety on the Glock pistol". When we heard it my wife looked at me and we both smiled.

Hummer

Medpilot 2
01-14-2005, 06:54
I'm currently on page 70 of Da Vinci Code and enjoying the book so far.

I was in the store the other day and picked up a book called The Da Vinci Deception. The caption on the back describes how Dan Brown blurs the lines between history and fiction and distorts the truth.

I haven't started this one yet, but is anyone familiar with it?

Generalcarry
01-14-2005, 08:17
I think I saw the DVD in Blockbusters, but have never read the book.

Trsnrtr
01-16-2005, 14:36
Originally posted by Number 6
is it just me because the guy that wrote "davinci" (dan brown?) is easily one of the worst writers i ever slogged through. the premise of the book was interesting but i kept getting the vision of a guy beating on a piano with a hammer because he couldn't play...

I agree. I read the DaVinci Code last year because I got it cheap and it was popular. Since my wife knew I read it, she assumed I liked it and bought me Angels and Demons. I just got through A&D... barely... I almost threw it away a couple of times.

jason10mm
01-24-2005, 19:14
Da Vinci Code had lots of cool history (how much is true though? I'd really like to know if Venus really makes a pentacle every 4 years), but the plotting and the characters are a joke. That British guy was ludicrious and the incredible intricacy of the initial set-up was laughable. If the curator could set up all those clues while bleeding to death, he could have just mailed a letter instead.

Dexters
01-24-2005, 21:08
The sad aspect of this book is what is says about the US reading public. It has been on the New York Times best sellers list for many weeks.

Another19
01-26-2005, 22:10
Most people who read do so to be entertained. A book can be entertaining while being fantastic.

Plus, he couldn't have mailed a letter. He was locked in a part of the museum. Anything he left would have been found by whoever got there first.

jason10mm
01-26-2005, 22:43
I dunno, seems like he took the LONG way 'round to solve his problem.

mac66
01-28-2005, 15:56
Originally posted by Medpilot 2
I'm currently on page 70 of Da Vinci Code and enjoying the book so far.

I was in the store the other day and picked up a book called The Da Vinci Deception. The caption on the back describes how Dan Brown blurs the lines between history and fiction and distorts the truth.

I haven't started this one yet, but is anyone familiar with it?

Kind of hard to critisize a book for distorting the truth when it is a work of fiction. Sounds like the author of the Da Vinci Deception is just trying to capitalize on Brown's success.

I thought the Da Vinci Code was entertaining and interesting. I also thought it quite predictable at times but over all a good read.

In regards to "If I recall correctly, the one reference in the DaVinci Code to palming the Glock included something like, "I released the safety on the Glock pistol". When we heard it my wife looked at me and we both smiled."

When you put your finger on the trigger you actually release the trigger safety thingy allowing the trigger to be pulled. That's probably what Brown was refering to. ;Q

Another19
01-28-2005, 22:25
Originally posted by jason10mm
I dunno, seems like he took the LONG way 'round to solve his problem.

True, but it was kind of the whole basis of the book - the beginning of a trail of clues. Maybe it is not one of the great works of fiction, but in my opinion it certainly was a lot of fun to read. I enjoy Stephen King too, and if you break down his books they sound pretty lame:

An evil car regenerates itself.

A girl has telekenesis and wrecks the prom.

A guy comes out of a coma after a bunch of years and is psychic.

I don't enjoy these books any less because of the premise.

jason10mm
01-29-2005, 08:59
Yeah, I know. I think I am being too critical of the set-up because of my eventual dissapointment in the ending. The "trail of clues" was Browns way of including all the Da Vinci artworks and locaations so he could better integrate his historical "info-dumps". I just wish it had a more satisfying ending and more challenging villains. A movie is gonna be tough since so much of the book was flashbacks or conversation. I have no doubt that Akiva Goldsman will butcher it like he has done for so many other scripts.

Medpilot 2
01-29-2005, 14:43
Originally posted by mac66
Kind of hard to critisize a book for distorting the truth when it is a work of fiction. Sounds like the author of the Da Vinci Deception is just trying to capitalize on Brown's success.

I thought the Da Vinci Code was entertaining and interesting. I also thought it quite predictable at times but over all a good read.

In regards to "If I recall correctly, the one reference in the DaVinci Code to palming the Glock included something like, "I released the safety on the Glock pistol". When we heard it my wife looked at me and we both smiled."

When you put your finger on the trigger you actually release the trigger safety thingy allowing the trigger to be pulled. That's probably what Brown was refering to. ;Q

True, the book is fiction, but Brown will reference ďrealĒ history to back up stories told in his book. Itís his references and some of the history that Iím questioning. All in all I really enjoyed the book and couldn't put it down at times. BTW, I think they must have changed the printing because my copy talks about a USP 40, not a Glock.

Another19
02-01-2005, 22:43
Originally posted by jason10mm
Yeah, I know. I think I am being too critical of the set-up because of my eventual dissapointment in the ending. The "trail of clues" was Browns way of including all the Da Vinci artworks and locaations so he could better integrate his historical "info-dumps". I just wish it had a more satisfying ending and more challenging villains. A movie is gonna be tough since so much of the book was flashbacks or conversation. I have no doubt that Akiva Goldsman will butcher it like he has done for so many other scripts.

Is a movie in the works? I hadn't heard that. I thought National Treasure seemed to be inspired by The DaVinci Code. It was pretty entertaining, but also a little fantastic.

Medpilot 2
02-03-2005, 08:11
Originally posted by Another19
Is a movie in the works? I hadn't heard that. I thought National Treasure seemed to be inspired by The DaVinci Code. It was pretty entertaining, but also a little fantastic.

I guess it will not be in theaters until May of 2006.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0382625/

Aquanewt
02-05-2005, 10:03
I checked the copy I'm reading (borrowed from a co-worker) and the pistol is a HK USP 40. If I'm reading the publisher's info page correctly it's a first edition (April 2003)

sharp
02-17-2005, 10:23
Originally posted by Another19
I read Angels and Demons before The DaVinci Code, and liked it better. There are a couple of referenced to the events of Angels and Demons in The DaVinci Code, but it doesn't matter what order you read them in. I'm interested to see which book most people enjoy more. I may have liked Angels and Demons better because it introduced me to the character and Dan Brown's style of writing. It seems the first I read is always the best, regardless of which was written first.
ME TOO!!

Another19
02-18-2005, 00:11
There's something about new characters that makes a book more interesting. Maybe it's finding a new series to read, and reread.

sciniq
10-24-2005, 02:13
I like the idea/concept of the story, but the author equates to a junior high school student. I'm not an author, nor can I write a best-seller, but that doesn't mean I can't say that Dan Brown can't write for $#*!. His writing style is jarring and purile. He's redundant and either writes as an idiot or for idiots. I guess that's why the book does so well. It's written for bored housewives.

I haven't finished the book, but twice he fails to accurately depict a Glock pistol. The first by stating that it has a "safety" and the second by having the character "cock" the pistol. I highly doubt the author meant, nor has knowledge of the trigger safety when he referenced a safety mechanism on the gun. And cocking it? That creates an image of a thumb cocking back the hammer. If he knew about or meant pulling back the slide to chamber a bullet, he would've said so, because he loves to explain the simplest of things to the reader because he thinks the reader is too stupid to get anything. Instead he give us an image of a Glock with a single/double action.

In summation, I dislike Dan Brown.