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turbonatr
11-25-2004, 08:39
I am curious to see what handguns and loads GT's handgun hunters use for big game. I especially want to hear from my fellow 454 Casull shooters!

Whatcha got??

Steve in PA
11-25-2004, 09:48
A scoped Ruger Super Redhawk .44mag.

Pet load is 240gr Hornady HP-XTP, 24.0gr H-110, Remington cases, CCI primers.

The other load I use is the 300gr XTP with 20.0gr of H-110.

TJC
11-25-2004, 10:07
When I get to go out of state and hunt w/a handgun I use a Magna Ported Ruger Super Redhawk, 9.5". Scoped with a 4x Simmons.
Loaded with handloads. Hornady 265 grn. rifle bullet with 22.0 grns of W296 and a CCI mag primer in WW cases.

It hasn't failed me yet.

Craigster
11-25-2004, 10:10
Elk,

CanyonMan
11-26-2004, 20:39
Mostly the Ruger SBH 44Mag, 7 1/2" Barrel, with my reloads of 300gr. cast bullet. (my most accurate handgun).

Ruger BH, 45lc; 300gr/325gr. cast wnfp. (better gun, and round, IMHO)

Marlin 45/70; 405gr. cast


CanyonMan

trapfan
11-26-2004, 22:23
S&W .44 Magnum 629 Classic 8 3/8in with a Leupold 2X EER scope. For Whitetail deer/Russian Boars I use Federal 240gr jhp Hydra-Shoks.

riddleofsteel
11-27-2004, 08:10
After many years of T/C Contender and scoped S&W 629 shooting I came to the conclusion that most hunting specific handguns were short clumsy rifles without stocks. When I hunt with a handgun it is a handgun that fits in a regular holster and is convenient to carry.
Currently I am using a 7.5" Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt. I usually use a 250 grain Hornady XTP hollow point over a max charge of 24 grains of H110 or a 255 grain SWC over Unique. Velocity is a hair over 1300 FPS and the recoil makes it a two hand job to hold on. Terminal performance is on par with my .50 Renegade and I limit myself to about the same distances. Add to this it fits in a simple cross draw holster and is a joy to carry under my hunting coat. I would not hesitate to try any game on this side of the world with this gun and load. Having no desire to be a chew toy for a large brown bear it might not be my first choice for hunting one. However, with a hard cast 300 grain SWC I have no doubt I could give one an extremely bad day if I had to.

http://yerfrockethellhound.com/bhawkbowieskull.JPG

turbonatr
11-27-2004, 09:05
The 45C Colt is a fantastic cartridge. It can do anything that the 44 magnum can do and then some, but do it will less pressure and a larger diameter bullet. Loaded down for cowboy action shooting or loaded up for any game animal on this continent and beyond.

I have really been considering a Ruger Redhawk with a 5.5" barrel in 45 Colt as a more packable option over my 7.5" SRH in 454 Casull. The Redhawk would make an excellent "woods walking" gun.

WFR
11-27-2004, 20:08
When I head upstate tomorrow I will have my Ruger OMBH 6.5" in .41 magnum on my side. After some research and shooting multiple loads I will be using the Winchester 250gr PlatinumTip HPs.
I also have a S&W 657 with a 6" barrel. I used to own a sweet shooting 629 Hunter Classic with a 6" barrel but decided to stick with the .41's. More than likely I will use my .280 Rem Mtn Rifle but if the shot presents itself I'd love to put those new Winchester loads to the test!
Good luck to everyone!

sarge
11-27-2004, 21:32
Super Redhawk 44 Mag or G20...

http://photos.imageevent.com/brobert/guns/websize/pistols.jpg

CanyonMan
11-27-2004, 23:17
turbonatr, said...(quote)...

"The 45C Colt is a fantastic cartridge. It can do anything that the 44 magnum can do and then some, but do it will less pressure and a larger diameter bullet. Loaded down for cowboy action shooting or loaded up for any game animal on this continent and beyond.

I have really been considering a Ruger Redhawk with a 5.5" barrel in 45 Colt as a more packable option over my 7.5" SRH in 454 Casull. The Redhawk would make an excellent "woods walking" gun.(end quote)...

Amen!

I forgot to add this one in my above post... it is really a favorite of mine, and i must admit, i do like it more than my SBH 44mag..
Very good cartridge.

CanyonMan

lonewolf28152
11-28-2004, 15:49
Taurus 454 Casull. I don't think the Ruger was out when I bought my Taurus so that is why I went with it. When I bought it I didn't plan on using it hunting. I just wanted a hand cannon. The only one I found at the time was a 6-1/2 inch bright stainless so I said what the heck. This gun has now taken several deer with hand loads. I love seeing the fire come out of the ports!;f

dougader
11-29-2004, 10:20
Originally posted by turbonatr
The 45C Colt is a fantastic cartridge. It can do anything that the 44 magnum can do and then some, but do it will less pressure and a larger diameter bullet. Loaded down for cowboy action shooting or loaded up for any game animal on this continent and beyond.

I have really been considering a Ruger Redhawk with a 5.5" barrel in 45 Colt as a more packable option over my 7.5" SRH in 454 Casull. The Redhawk would make an excellent "woods walking" gun.

I love the 45 Colt cartridge. Right now all I have in that category is a SRH 7-1/2" .454 Casull. Honestly, the only reason I went with the .454 is because I get up to Alaska to do fishing and I am what the locals call "bearanoid." I would rather not see a bear at all when I'm fishing, and the last 2 years have been perfect in that regard.

For big brown and grizzly bear I load a Cast Performance 335 grain hardcast WLN bullet over 30 grains WW 296 for about 1500 fps. I imagine that would be an awesome load for elk, too, but for anything less than grizz I'd say the 45 Colt is perfect.

I load 255/265 SWC's with BlueDot or WW296/H110 in 45 Colt cases for deer and step up to 300 grain hardcast SWC's for elk. Unfortunately, I am one of those guys that usually sees deer and elk every time I go into the woods, EXCEPT when I'm hunting.

For smallish blacktail deer I also have a SA 1911 in 9x23 Winchester with 125 grain Gold Dot handloads that run 1500 fps. Also, A G20 with Mike McNett's Double Tap 200 grain XTP load at 1250 fps that I would feel confident to use on any deer in the state as well as close range shots on elk.

I have been trying to decide what gun to get in 45 Colt. I like the Ruger Bisley single action, but would have the 7.5" barrel cut down somewhere between 5"-6". I also like the Redhawk with the 5.5" barrel.

vafish
11-29-2004, 18:00
I carry a 14" TC Contender in .44 Mag with a 1.5X TC Scope and a 7 1/2" Ruger Super Redhawk in .44 Mag.

Hawkman
11-30-2004, 10:01
Performance Center S&W 500 mag 6.5" scoped.

GRIZZLYBEAR
12-06-2004, 05:15
I use the S&W Model 657 Hunter in .41 mag or the S&W Model 629 for whitetail.

For Muley and Boar I be using my Freedom Arms .454 (this also was my elk revolver until a purchased a S&W .500 Mag).

Elk from the '90s till 2004 season the .454
Elk from 2004 season till ??? .500

grizz

Sgt
12-06-2004, 18:59
I have a Taurus Raging Bull .454 that now sits idle in the safe because of the following two hunting handguns.

1: Magnum Research Lone Eagle 30-06 with ported barrel. 2x scope.

2: S&W 500 Mag. with Nikon Red Dot scope.

Both are excellent handuns for hunting pretty much anything. I do handload for the 500 mag. to save on ammo. expense. The Lone Eagle I use when I am on stand with the potential for shots of 125 yrds. or more. The 500 mag. I use in my stands in the woods.

Both weapons are surprisingly easy to shoot but the muzzle blast must be taken into consideration. I use either a walkers game ear or some electronic muffs. Plugs would also work if you have time to put them in prior to touching off a round.

The 500 mag. does not ruin any more meat than any other weapon I have used for deer. I use 400 grn. soft points over 37.5 grains of H110. Large rifle primers.

MarkCO
12-08-2004, 09:46
10mm in a 610 Revolver and a DW Razorback 1911. Primarily carried as back-ups, but I put down 3 wounded elk with the Razorback last year and shot my elk at 80 yards with it. I used Pro-Load 180 grain Speer Gold Dots.

.40 Super in a 1911. I use this for plains deer hunting. I have shot decent sized Mulie bucks at ranges from 50 to 140 yards with excellent results. I use 180 grain Hornady XTPs handloaded to 1600 fps.

.41 Magnum in a Ruger Redhawk. I've used this for several hunting chores. I've used several rounds from 210 grain JHPs to 250 grain cast cores.

.414 SuperMag in a 12" Encore. I use this for hogs, elk, and someday hopefully moose. I load 265 grain Performance WLNGC using Lil Gun to just past 1600 fps. Quite the thumper.

I like the mid-sized calibers for the better trajecotry while still retining significant energy. All of these are open sighted. If I need a scope, then I need a rifle too.

Rabon
12-09-2004, 18:59
Freedom Arms Model 83
335 Cast 31 Gr W296

454 SRH and 454 Raging Bull
335 cast 29.5 Gr W296

45 Colt RBH
335 cast 23.5 W296

44 Mag Ruger Bisley
300 cast 22 Gr. W296

turbonatr
12-09-2004, 20:12
Originally posted by MarkCO

.414 SuperMag in a 12" Encore. I use this for hogs, elk, and someday hopefully moose. I load 265 grain Performance WLNGC using Lil Gun to just past 1600 fps. Quite the thumper.

I like the mid-sized calibers for the better trajecotry while still retining significant energy. All of these are open sighted. If I need a scope, then I need a rifle too.

Out of curiosity, have you considered the 454 Casull? 260gr. slugs 200fps faster from a 4.5" shorter barrel. You get your flat trajectory and a wider bullet as well. Of course, you also get heavier recoil and a shorter sight radius, though.

turbonatr
12-09-2004, 20:13
Originally posted by Rabon
Freedom Arms Model 83
335 Cast 31 Gr W296

454 SRH and 454 Raging Bull
335 cast 29.5 Gr W296

45 Colt RBH
335 cast 23.5 W296

44 Mag Ruger Bisley
300 cast 22 Gr. W296

What velocity are you getting from the 454 load and the 335gr. slug?

MarkCO
12-10-2004, 08:35
Originally posted by turbonatr
Out of curiosity, have you considered the 454 Casull? 260gr. slugs 200fps faster from a 4.5" shorter barrel. You get your flat trajectory and a wider bullet as well. Of course, you also get heavier recoil and a shorter sight radius, though.

Yes, actually, I do not like the torque of the .454. Also, the accuracy is not enough for me. I shot my .454 into 8 inches at 100 yards and my .414 into 3 inches at 100 yards, rested with open sights. The .414 is a really cool cartridge.

Rabon
12-10-2004, 12:01
At temps around +20
7.5" SRH
29.5 Grs W296 335 cast Slightly over 1500 fps
I wanted to get 1500 fps with the 335 cast to use in my Double Action Revolers. This is where it happened at in my SRH.;)

dougader
12-10-2004, 12:08
Originally posted by Rabon
At temps around +20
7.5" SRH
29.5 Grs W296 335 cast Slightly over 1500 fps
I wanted to get 1500 fps with the 335 cast to use in my Double Action Revolers. This is where it happened at in my SRH.;)

That's exactly what I was trying to do with my 7-1/2" SRH 454 for my fishing trips to Alaska. I also use the Cast Performance 335 grain WLNGC bullet @ 1500 fps.

My load is with the 335 gr. WLNGC/30 gr. WW296 or H110 for 1500 fps. I started with 27 grains WW 296, and that gave me an average velocity of 1395 fps. I love that bullet, but I also want to try the 340 grain slug from Beartooth bullets.

turbonatr
12-10-2004, 16:12
Originally posted by MarkCO
Yes, actually, I do not like the torque of the .454. Also, the accuracy is not enough for me. I shot my .454 into 8 inches at 100 yards and my .414 into 3 inches at 100 yards, rested with open sights. The .414 is a really cool cartridge.


I know quite a few guys who love 454 ballistics, but hate the recoil. Ear protection is also a very good idea, even in a hunting situation with the 454. Tremendous blast. 64,000psi has a way of making quite a bit of noise.

rfb45colt
12-11-2004, 11:31
Dan Wesson 44V (.44mag) w/ 10" barrel. Favorite load is Cast Performance 300gr over 22.5grs of H110, Starline cases, CCI 350 primers. Muzzle velocity averages a hair over 1,300 fps, and 25yd benchrested groups average 1/2".

.45 Colt Ruger Blackhawk (Old model, I've owned it since '71) w/ 7 1/2" barrel, B-Square mount, Leupold 2X, Wolffe springs, and Hogue mono-grip. Favorite load is also the Cast Performance 300gr, 22grs of W296, Starline nickel-plated cases, CCI 350 primers. Muzzle velocity average is 1,290fps.

I prefer open sights, but with the 300gr bullets, the open sights do not have enough adjustment to allow for proper sight-in. With the Ruger, with the rear sight all the way down, it still hits about 5" high at 25 yds. So rather than mess with the front sight by making it taller, I put the B-Square mount on it, and installed a Simmons red-dot. The Simmons fell apart, from the recoil, after 32 shots fired. I then tried a cheap BSA red dot. Same result, only it lasted until the 2nd box of 50. I then put a Tasco Optima 2000 on it. I got 70 or so rounds through it before it quit working. Next came a BSA 2X scope. That made it to almost 100 rounds. :) It now wears the Leupold, and after 200 rounds fired, it's still working fine. Lesson learned... don't waste money on "cheap" crappy sighting devices, go for the good stuff right away. :(

As for the Dan Wesson, I had the same sight adjustment problems, but DW front sight blades are easily changable.... but I had to make my own to get one tall enough. I used the head of a key blank, made by the Swedish lock company "ASSA" (the thickness, 1/8", is exactly the same as the base of DW sight blades, and is the thickest key I'm aware of), but it's made of a nickel/silver alloy and will not hold any cold bluing. So I painted it flat black. ;)

turbonatr
12-11-2004, 17:46
My hunting sixguns;

Ruger Super Redhawk in 454 Casull topped with a Tasco 1.25-4x scope and a stock-sighted, first generation S&W 610 10mm.

Rabon
12-12-2004, 01:43
rfb45colt.
The load you are useing in your 10" DW is around 100 fps slower than the same load in both of my 7.5" revolvers. Do I need to check my chronograph?:)

TheSniper
12-12-2004, 23:10
454SRH burris 2x posi:

g_gunter
12-12-2004, 23:46
I carry a S&W 629PP with 6" barrell and open sights in a Guidegear leather bandoleer holster. For whitetail I currently shoot a 240 gr. Hornady XTP over 10.5 gr. of Unique. I can consistently hit the 8" gong at 100 yards with this baby. It shoots like a laser (photos attached) and lockup is as tight as a bank vault. By far the best Smith .44 mag I've owned or shot thus far.

I have a Magnum Research BFR in 45 LC +P I recently purchased (2 months ago) and am getting ready to send it off to David Clements to have it "Bisleyized". I'm gonna have a Bisley frame, trigger, and hammer installed, as well as, have the sights reworked and simulated ivory grips put on it. I haven't decided on what type of sights I'm going to put on it but I am a bit partial to the Patridge style front sight like I have on my 629PP. I can "see" them a little better for some reason.

g_gunter

rfb45colt
12-15-2004, 09:52
Originally posted by Rabon
rfb45colt.
The load you are useing in your 10" DW is around 100 fps slower than the same load in both of my 7.5" revolvers. Do I need to check my chronograph?:)


Hmmm.... maybe I should check mine. It's an inexpensive F-1, that only cost $69.00.

Ooops... I just went down to the loading bench, and double-checked what my loads are. I haven't loaded any of these for about a year, and was qouting them from memory. I had the velocites correct, but not the powder. In the .44 load with the 300gr hard-casts, I'm using 20.5 grs of H110 (not 22.5). (I remember trying as much as 23grs, but backed off due to flattened primers). My 240gr XTP loads in .44 use the 22.5gr of H110. And while I'm making corrections, my 300gr .45Colt loads use 21grs of W296, not 22.

Edit: BTW, when using either Winchester or Remington brass, for both caliber loads, velocities averaged about 20fps slower than the exact same loads in the Starline brass. ^8

turbonatr
12-15-2004, 15:59
For those of you who are handloading for the 454 Casull, which powders and primers have you found work best? Also, have any of you loaded the 454 down for informal target shooting? If so, do you use the same powder as your full-power loads?

jcmios
12-15-2004, 21:20
For deer I use a Magna Ported Ruger Redhawk in 44Mag with a Leupold scope. The load is a Sierra 300grs JSP with 19.1grs of 2400 and a CCI mag primmer, OAL is 1.733 inch. The gun is sighted in at 75 yards so I am good from 15 to 125 yards. It had never failed to put meat on the table, or back of the truck.

Rabon
12-16-2004, 01:07
turbonatr
I use the Remington 7 1/2 small rifle bench rest primers with 454 cases, the cartidge was developed with this primer. If I use 45 Colt Brass I use whatever Large Magnum Pistol I happen to have laying around. I use a heavy cast bullet, so I keep velocities above 1400 fps to stabalize these bullets and W296 works well for what I need.
28 Grs. W296 in a 454 case will get you just over 1400 fps
25 Grs W296 in a 45 Colt case will get you about the same place and it is much nicer to shoot.;) If you choose to Load 45 Colt cases to pressures over about 35K make sure they don't end up somewhere they dont belong.:) These reduced loads are easy on the gun and the shooter.

valian
12-17-2004, 16:57
For years I was using a 44 Super Blackhawk with 5 1/2" bbl.. But for several years have been using a 45 Bisley with same length bbl. i am still trying to find my load for that gun. The first year I tried 250 Hornandy because that was all I could find locally and it failed on the shoulder of a nice buck (long story). Since then I have been using 260 Speer HP,
This year for something different I used my Ruger Old Army with a 45LC conversion cylinder. The cylinder is limited to standard pressure loads so I used the new 250gr Gold Dot at near 900fps. I killed a doe at 25 yds that was quartering away from me. The bullet entered through the rib cage, went through the heart, broke the far shoulder and I found it under the skin there well expanded. It was enjoyable to use the Old Army and the 'low tech', lower velocity load for a different hunting experience and it was interesting to see how well a slower moving load performed.

valian

wprebeck
12-22-2004, 20:39
This was my first year out with a handgun, and I brought in 2 deer with my set up, so I'm quite happy.

I've got a Taurus model 44SS6 with a Burris 2 X 7 variable power scope on it. It's basically a Smith 629 that doesn't cost as much. Got it for less $$ new, than the Smith next to it that was used. SInce it came with a lifetime warranty, I figured "why not?"

For ammo, I looked around, and went with the Remington 275gr Core-Lokt round. It was a bit expensive, but performs quite well. Both deer went down immediately after being shot, and that's all you can ask for in a bullet. :cool:

Oh, and I got an Uncle Mike's scoped shoulder holster to carry it in the woods with. Works great!

ithaca_deerslayer
12-23-2004, 12:11
Dan Wesson, .44mag, 8" ported, open sights.

Remington 240 grain semi-jacketed hollow points (regular green and yellow box stuff). They shoot dead on from 0 to 100 yards (talking about placement relative to sights, as well as bullet drop and relative group size from a bench), but my self-imposed limit for hunting is 50 yards to assure I actually hit what I'm aiming for when I'm all excited and without a benchrest :)

Medford4
12-30-2004, 14:03
VAfish...You carry a 14" Contender in 44mag? Sorry, but that makes about as much sense to me as hunting with a Ruger #1 single shot rifle in 44 mag.The caliber is such a waste of the gun's capabilities. I hunt with a 14" contender in 7-30 Waters. It's a nice caliber...shoot deer with it all the time...and very accurate. Once neck-shot a coyote with it..running at over 350 yards...(had a witness) The only problem I have with it is it's the armor-alloy model, and I can't find any more barrels for it.

1865
12-30-2004, 23:54
Originally posted by turbonatr
My hunting sixguns;

Ruger Super Redhawk in 454 Casull topped with a Tasco 1.25-4x scope and a stock-sighted, first generation S&W 610 10mm.

Love that Ruger. If the tax man is kind this year I hope to have one myself.

vafish
01-01-2005, 14:10
Originally posted by Medford4
VAfish...You carry a 14" Contender in 44mag? Sorry, but that makes about as much sense to me as hunting with a Ruger #1 single shot rifle in 44 mag.The caliber is such a waste of the gun's capabilities. I hunt with a 14" contender in 7-30 Waters. It's a nice caliber...shoot deer with it all the time...and very accurate. Once neck-shot a coyote with it..running at over 350 yards...(had a witness) The only problem I have with it is it's the armor-alloy model, and I can't find any more barrels for it.

I use to have a Ruger #3 in .44 mag!

Now the Ruger Model 77 in .44 mag, that's a waste.

Here in VA the average shot on a deer is about 25 yards. Longest shot I've taken on a deer is 90 paces (That was when I was in Minnesota) Since I've been hunting here in VA I've never taken a shot over 50 yards.

7-30 Waters would be fine (my brother uses one in Nevada), but I just don't need it here.


Besides I like carrying only 1 type of ammo and 2 guns. On top of that my son hunts with a .44 mag Winchester 94 Trapper.

TC can modify the frame of the Armaloy models to accept standard barrels. Give them a call.

Edge
01-02-2005, 17:59
S&W Performance Center 629 V-Comp 5" .44 mag. Black Hills 240 grain. I'm thinking maybe 180 or 210 next year. I used the 240s hoping for a large buck. They just blew through two does this year.

g_gunter
01-04-2005, 09:35
For ammo, I looked around, and went with the Remington 275gr Core-Lokt round. It was a bit expensive, but performs quite well. Both deer went down immediately after being shot, and that's all you can ask for in a bullet.

wprebeck,

Do you remember where you hit them for them to go down immediately?

Thanks,

g_gunter

TX Proud
01-04-2005, 11:28
.357 Maximum with 180gr XTP/FP and 24gr H110. I am getting over 1900fps when temps are above 50F. It's topped off with a Red Dot.

noway
01-06-2005, 14:55
{357 Maximum with 180gr XTP/FP and 24gr H110. I am getting over 1900fps when temps are above 50F. It's topped off with a Red Dot}

Q:what gun are you using this in? What's the biggest game animal you killed with that combo?

TX Proud
01-06-2005, 15:23
Originally posted by noway
Q:what gun are you using this in? What's the biggest game animal you killed with that combo?

It's going throught a T/C Contender and a 14" bbl.

I've used it on deer to 100yds and a I shot a 350lb hog (largest) at 75 yds - 1 shot drop.

noway
01-06-2005, 15:44
impressive.