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fnfalman
11-27-2004, 23:08
Jesus H. Christ, I was just cruising on the highway. Note that it's a highway and not even an Interstate. The traffic was moderate and we all cruised around 70-MPH. There were two guys (presumably young) on some sort of Jap rice rockets; sounded like liter-bikes, that blew by us so fast that it wasn't even funny. Just from eyeball calibration alone, they were probably doing in excess of 120-MPH and still accelerating judging from the growl of their engines.

I'm not one of those types that prefer sissy scooters. I don't personally care for the crotch rocket types, be they Japanese or Italians, but I do appreciate them as engineering marvels and appreciate the skills of the riders that can do wheelies and scratch their knees while cornering. BUT hauling ass like that in traffic is utterly moronic and it gives motorcyclists a bad name.

Even in my youth, I wasn't that stupid on my Ducati 750 PASO.

HKMark23
11-27-2004, 23:32
They do that because any idiot can go fast in a straight line, so they blip around in traffic showing how "cool" they are.

Just try and get one of those clowns out on a track, it's almost impossable! And when they do they pee their paints if they compress a shock more than half way in a corner let alone hang off and drag a knee.

I could care less if they wanna drive like that and kill themselves but it pisses me off that they put others at risk with there "superior" riding abilities.

:soap:

Neal
11-28-2004, 10:36
Originally posted by fnfalman

Why do young idiots always ride crotch rockets?

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Because they can't get older smarter people to do it. ;f

Watch this video for an example of what you are talking about:http://www.ebaumsworld.com/bikespeed.html

Wulfenite
11-28-2004, 10:57
Because you can spend 10 times as much money on a car and still not equal the performance.

The other part of the problem is they think motorcycles are just fast cars. They're not. Totally different physics. I rode a GSXR 750 for a number of years. The only time I ever layed it over was in my dad gagage when I pulled up to a stop and set my foot down in an oil spot his porche left on the floor. They way I survived was more than a decade of droping dirt bikes.

hank327
11-28-2004, 19:58
There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots. But there are no old bold pilots!;f

FoxMustang
11-28-2004, 20:58
Eh, idiocy knows no bounds. I've see the same sort of behavior from guys with Harleys and Hondas and Mustangs and Camaros and SUVs, you name it (I'm sure we all have).

At least on the bike the idiots have a greater chance of taking themselves out while having a lesser chance of causing collateral damage. I just feel sorry for all the others paying insurance on the same type of bike.

BikerGoddess
11-29-2004, 08:30
I know plenty of young idiots who don't ride crotch rockets.

I also know a lot of old idiots...

Laura

sublime
11-29-2004, 10:48
Yep, there are some idiots out there that do this in the wrong place and wrong time.

I wouldn't single out crotch rocket riders though. I like the Harley riders that say they have their exhaust loud because it is safer when cars can hear them. Then they ride off w/o a helmet. ;Q

I will give the crotch rocket crowd higher marks for safety gear.

GSX-MAN
11-29-2004, 16:35
Right before mt 20th birthday, i finally got my drivers' license. I immediately bought a Honda VTR250, that really looked like a crotch rocket. Well, it wasn't. It hardly reached 100 mph but I had really good fun with it. 2 years later, I bought a '99 Suzuki GSX600F (hence my nickname), which was a bit faster, (it did about 127 mph) but it was just about as reliable as a dog in heat.

A year ago, I was fed up with the unreliability of this piece of crap, so I traded it in for an older, more reliable bike; a '97 Honda CBR1100XX Super Blackbird (quite a mouthful, and quite a handful).

So, now I'm 26 and I still haven't owned a real crotch rocket. I tried a friend's Ducati 750 sport, but it's just not comfortable enough for commuting. And this bike tops at 182 mph, that must be enough...http://www.xs4all.nl/~marro/Rbird5.jpg

Warrior2k3
11-29-2004, 16:38
It's called thinning the herd.

GSX-MAN
11-29-2004, 16:41
Originally posted by Warrior2k3
It's called thinning the herd.

Yep, Darwin's always right...

fastvfr
11-29-2004, 17:30
I kept waiting for some farmer's dog to waltz out onto the road in front of the guy in the ebaum video. NEVER do 150+ by the white line. Ever.

Unsafe riders are unsafe at all speeds. Safe riders may drive more quickly than most, but that is because they know what they're doing and do not exceed their skillsets.

My bike is fast. And sometimes I will let it out for a run. But you won't see me splitting lanes and weaving around passing cages on the right (or on the shoulder) just because I can double their top speed.

GSX-MAN, that's a lovely bike. I always liked the look of the 1100XX...but I like VFR's better....;)

http://sfriday.com/VFR800/IMAGES/2001VFR.jpg

Best regards,

FastVFR

PS. That isn't my bike, but mine is a red 2001. Mine has been modded quite a bit, and has a far better header/pipe set - and no #%&@ luggage!! I just haven't taken any digital pics of my ride yet.

Texas T
11-29-2004, 21:37
Originally posted by fastvfr
and no #%&@ luggage!! That luggage set would look a lot better on that bike if it were red. :)

GSX-MAN
11-30-2004, 11:25
Originally posted by fastvfr
I kept waiting for some farmer's dog to waltz out onto the road in front of the guy in the ebaum video. NEVER do 150+ by the white line. Ever.

Unsafe riders are unsafe at all speeds. Safe riders may drive more quickly than most, but that is because they know what they're doing and do not exceed their skillsets.

My bike is fast. And sometimes I will let it out for a run. But you won't see me splitting lanes and weaving around passing cages on the right (or on the shoulder) just because I can double their top speed.

GSX-MAN, that's a lovely bike. I always liked the look of the 1100XX...but I like VFR's better....;)

http://sfriday.com/VFR800/IMAGES/2001VFR.jpg

Best regards,

FastVFR

PS. That isn't my bike, but mine is a red 2001. Mine has been modded quite a bit, and has a far better header/pipe set - and no #%&@ luggage!! I just haven't taken any digital pics of my ride yet.

I was in doubt between the CFR and the CBR when I bought the CBR. Both are great. (but mine's faster ;) )

RyanSBHF
11-30-2004, 14:47
Originally posted by BikerGoddess
I know plenty of young idiots who don't ride crotch rockets.

I also know a lot of old idiots...

Laura


I see bad drivers of all types: Young and old, men and women. It's funny that 16 yr olds usually ake fun of elderly drivers while they (16 yo) have the highest accident rate. I've heard some reccoment the driving age be raised to 18. I think it's a good idea myself. What do you all think?

BikerGoddess
11-30-2004, 17:13
Originally posted by RyanSBHF
I see bad drivers of all types: Young and old, men and women. It's funny that 16 yr olds usually ake fun of elderly drivers while they (16 yo) have the highest accident rate. I've heard some reccoment the driving age be raised to 18. I think it's a good idea myself. What do you all think? I think that elderly drivers have the second highest accident rate...

I would be all for increasing the driver's age and/or graduated licenses if we have a decent public transportation infrastructure. It's pretty hard to get around without a car, and parents don't want to ferry their kids everywhere they want to go.

Laura

RyanSBHF
11-30-2004, 22:48
Originally posted by BikerGoddess
I think that elderly drivers have the second highest accident rate...

I would be all for increasing the driver's age and/or graduated licenses if we have a decent public transportation infrastructure. It's pretty hard to get around without a car, and parents don't want to ferry their kids everywhere they want to go.

Laura


What's it like in Dallas? Here in Omaha the only public transportation we have are buses.

lenmattsen
12-01-2004, 00:44
God invented natural selection to improve the varied species.
Idiots on crotch rockets merely expidite the process.
Young idiots die before the breed and perpetuate idiocy.

See, the system works just fine. :)

I started riding as a motor officer in 1969.
The only accident I have ever had was when a woman driving a stolen Mustang struck me at 65 mph when I was at 35mph.
It broke my back and put me down for eight years.

Now after 32+ years as a LEO , I am down for the count in another accident. A severely fractured neck and total disability. Surgery should help with improved mobility soon.

What happened you ask? A slip & fall on duty!

"There ain't no justice 'cept in Heaven; and you ain't in Heaven!"

Texas T
12-01-2004, 10:38
Len, sorry to hear about the disability.

Do you anticipate being able to ride again in the future, even if it's on a trike?

What happened to the woman that struck you years ago... jail time?

lenmattsen
12-01-2004, 10:54
:( Bad news: no I won't even be allowed to drive a car let alone a motorcycle.

:) A 1995 BMW K-75 with ABS brakes in exc. condition is for sale to someone very lucky.

The woman is was released from custody for two years ago after serving 16 years of a 20 to life sentence. Never again will she be permitted a D.L. in the U.S. and she has a felony record for attempted motor vehicle homicide.

It sucks to be her!

All good things to all good men.

BikerGoddess
12-01-2004, 12:39
Originally posted by RyanSBHF
What's it like in Dallas? Here in Omaha the only public transportation we have are buses.
Well, in the Metroplex, there are buses and trains. However, the trains are exceptionally limited (two lines, right now) and the area is very spread out.

Also, each city has its own public transportation system, and they are not interconnected. Some lines cross over, but it's damn near impossible to get from one place to another. And if you're too far from the 'big' cities, there's no service at all.

It's been awhile since I checked, but I think my 12 mile trip to work would take about 45 minutes by public transportation, and I'd still have to drive to the station.

Laura

rbielak
12-01-2004, 16:41
Originally posted by fastvfr PS. That isn't my bike, but mine is a red 2001. Mine has been modded quite a bit, and has a far better header/pipe set - and no #%&@ luggage!! I just haven't taken any digital pics of my ride yet.
Err ... this VFR is mine. It's got (cough!) a couple of mods ... :)

http://www.wdgah.org/bobs_vfr/images/vfr_2003_0425ab.jpg

sublime
12-01-2004, 20:36
Originally posted by lenmattsen
Never again will she be permitted a D.L. in the U.S. and she has a felony record for attempted motor vehicle homicide.

Heck, that doesn't keep felons from driving in Texas:( Down here it's like "drivers license?, we don't need no stinkin' drivers license"

Hope you get back on your feet.

SHEPHERD321
12-24-2004, 10:01
Lets just ban assault motorcycles, so we are all safer.

fnfalman
12-24-2004, 16:09
You must be one of those that blaze around on crotch rockets weaving in and out of traffic and doing wheelies down the highway in front of cars thinking that you're a MotoGP champion, huh?

SHEPHERD321
12-25-2004, 10:43
Yep, and the best part of it is I'm almost 40. Hey when i got back into riding i bought a cruiser, because thats what old people are suppose to do. But it just wasn't right. have a big honda now, its to big to throw around.

matt3310
12-25-2004, 11:03
I guess im a young idiot. Iride a turbo ZX9R.Its nice to think im young again!!! I do ride mine daily, and safly on the streets! Ive rode "crotch rockets" for about 11 years now.

So I guess Im an IDIOT!?!?!?

DaisyCutter
12-25-2004, 14:10
Originally posted by matt3310


So I guess Im an IDIOT!?!?!?

It's plausible, your location is listed as Arkansas.

BTW I think you mean Samuel Colt, not "Samual Colt". ;)

Texas T
12-25-2004, 21:02
Originally posted by DaisyCutter
BTW I think you mean Samuel Colt, not "Samual Colt". ;) LOL... and to put a fine point on it, God made Man, not men. ;)

KaTooM
12-29-2004, 00:32
I love the performance. I dont't ride fast on the street. But it's to easy to book track day's. I have done three so far. Here's a pick of me on the green bike at California Speedway.

KaTooM
12-29-2004, 01:37
Not young 41, Not an idiot, but here is my mid life crisis. I do it on the track.

fnfalman
12-29-2004, 15:11
matt3310,

If you are doing 100mph+ weaving in and out of freeway lanes on your crotchrocket and/or doing wheelies in traffic, then yes, you're an idiot. If you're not, then you're not an idiot.

Save it for the track, or for obscure highway that you KNOW there aren't any traffic around.

I don't care if the hotrodders kill themselves doing stunts, but I do care if they do it around me and probably get my assed killed along with them.

EZFLY80
01-02-2005, 19:39
Just because you ride a sport bike and because you ride fast on the street doesnt make you an idiot. I have rode dirtbikes, sportbikes, and harleys and they all have a different application. If you want to ride on long flat roades, ride a cruiser. If you want to jump and rip it up in the dirt, ride a dirtbike. If you want to go fast and turn hard, you ride a sportbike. There is an adrenaline rush that you get from riding like that. Someone who doesnt ride sportbikes doesnt experience this. Ducati riders wouldnt know either because ducatis are slow.

fireslayer23
01-03-2005, 05:37
Originally posted by DaisyCutter
It's plausible, your location is listed as Arkansas.

BTW I think you mean Samuel Colt, not "Samual Colt". ;)

I guess you just outed another asshat in your own state.

fnfalman
01-03-2005, 11:06
because you ride fast on the street doesnt make you an idiot.

-----------------------------------------------

There's no denying in the rush coming off riding a sportsbike. But if you ride fast in the streets in the middle of traffic, then you are an idiot.

If you weave in and out of traffic either on a street or a freeway full of cars trying to save a few minutes to your destination, then you are an idiot.

If you trying to do 100MPH+ on a freeway with traffic around you, then you are an idiot.

If you try to do wheelies at 80MPH with cars around you then you are an idiot.

I don't know how much plainer I can make my point.

That's why there are tracks available to be used. That's why you need to explore where you live and ride and find roads that are not often used by anyone.

Rebublic of MA
01-03-2005, 20:42
Originally posted by HKMark23


Just try and get one of those clowns out on a track, it's almost impossable! And when they do they pee their paints if they compress a shock more than half way in a corner let alone hang off and drag a knee.

Track: YUMMY
;F ;n ^5

http://www.owenssportsphotos.com/Photos/RacingPhotos/20041005a022l.jpg ;F ;n ^5

RKC2000
01-03-2005, 21:40
You'd never catch this 52 year-old Harley rider going side by side with my Road King Classic against a Dyna Wide Glide going 115 mph. No, not me.

CBRGlocker
01-04-2005, 10:58
In the early 90's I was a Harley Owner and rode with lots of Harley guys. In all honesty, they were worse than the sportbike crew I also rode with.

No helmets, shirts were optional, and they loved to drink.

True, the majority of the sportbikers out there are the younger adrenaline crowd but I'm a sportbiker and don't ride that way.

NewsShooter
01-15-2005, 20:06
I'm 44 and been riding since I was 9. I ride a rice rocket( Suzuki SV650) and don't ride like an idiot, but it does piss me off when I see others riding like one. Why? Insurance rates, that's why!
As a youngster I learned from my dad and brother, who were much more skilled than I, that it's not how fast you go, it's how you go fast.
Also, what you ride is as much a matter of preference as what you shoot.

Clydeglide
01-16-2005, 06:07
Originally posted by RKC2000
You'd never catch this 52 year-old Harley rider going side by side with my Road King Classic against a Dyna Wide Glide going 115 mph. No, not me.

That's cause stock Harley's can't go 115 MPH!!!!!!!;f

:cool:

BikerGoddess
01-17-2005, 11:15
Link to Article (http://www.boston.com/dailynews/015/region/Motorcycle_safety_activists_wo:.shtml)

Motorcycle safety activists worried about baby boomer deaths
By David Sharp, Associated Press, 1/15/2005 13:39

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) Mike Cullinan broke up with his girlfriend and started a new life. Part of that new life included buying a big Harley-Davidson motorcycle: a 620-pound Dyna Low Rider with a 1,450-cc, fuel-injected engine.

At 38, Cullinan was undergoing just the sort of transformation that happens to many men approaching middle age: empty nest, divorce or just plain old mid-life crisis. Those riders, mostly baby boomers, are driving up the number of motorcycle registrations nationwide.

They also make up the fastest-growing segment of motorcycle deaths.

Across the country, the number of motorcycle fatalities among riders in the 40-plus category has jumped 200 percent over the past decade while deaths among riders under 30 actually dropped, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

''It's really kind of astonishing: The ages of these fatalities are so high. You would think it would be all of the young kids on those fast bikes, but it's not,'' said Carl Hallman, highway safety coordinator with the Maine Department of Public Safety.

According to NHTSA's National Center for Statistics and Analysis, the mean age of motorcyclists killed rose from 32 in 1994 to 38 in 2003. The surge in deaths among older riders helped to push motorcycle fatalities higher overall. They jumped by nearly half during the past five years, from 2,483 in 1999 to 3,661 in 2003.

In Maine, 22 people were killed on motorcycles in 2004, the highest level in a decade. The numbers are even more dramatic in Vermont and New Hampshire.

In New Hampshire, 29 died, compared to nine the year before. In Vermont, there were 11 fatal crashes, more than in the three previous years combined. In all three states, riders in their 30s and older accounted for the most crashes.

Safety experts say many older riders are either returning to the sport after a lengthy absence or have no prior experience.

''From a career standpoint, they have a little extra time and a little extra disposable income. The kids have grown up, so they're looking for hobbies,'' said Rae Tyson, a NHTSA spokesman who specializes in motorcycle safety.

That fits with the experience of many instructors.

''I've seen a definite increase in men in their 40s and 50s getting back into motorcycling. They haven't ridden in 20 or 30 years, so their skills are rusty. Motorcycles have changed, and they're getting bigger motorcycles. And they're getting on without a refresher course,'' said Cathy Rimm, program director for Motorcycle Rider Education of Maine.

No one knows exactly why baby boomers are dying at a faster clip on motorcycles because there hasn't been a national study of the causes of motorcycle accidents since the late 1970s, Tyson said. Motorcycle groups are pressing for an update.

Big, powerful bikes appear to be part of the explanation. NHTSA data show that both engine displacement and fatalities among riders with the largest class of engines rose during the past decade.

Safety officials say older riders thinking about hitting the open road should recognize that their eyesight and reflexes aren't what they once were. They also say the importance of a refresher course cannot be overstated.

''In our experienced-rider courses, we do take into account the way your body changes, that your reaction time will change and that your eyesight will change. There are changes older riders should make,'' said Mike Mount, spokesman for the Motorcycle Safety Foundation in Irvine, Calif.

In many ways, Cullinan fits the stereotype of an older rider.

The repair shop manager from Standish hadn't ridden for 15 years, and his life underwent a big change when he broke off a relationship.

He spent more than $18,000 for his ride, a black low rider with chrome. He freely admits bravado played a role, along with enough income to make it a reality.

''I went for the largest bike I could handle, or that I hope I can handle,'' he said.

Though Maine and many other states require classes or clinics for new riders to get motorcycle licenses, there are no such requirements for a license holder who decides to get on a bike for the first time in decades. No state requires continuing periodic education, said Kathy Van Kleeck of the Motorcycle Safety Foundation.

Cullinan said his eyes were opened by the statistics. He has bought a helmet, which is not required in Maine, and he's taking a refresher course this winter so he'll be prepared for taking to the roads this spring.

''I'm hoping I will learn something that'll make me safer,'' he said. ''I'll be riding this spring and summer with my eyes open.''

On the Net:

Motorcycle Safety Foundation http://www.msf-usa.org

National Highway Transportation Safety Administration www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

Texas T
01-17-2005, 11:36
Good article. And very much accurate. Too many guys my age are trying to recapture their youth but going about it the wrong way.

fnfalman
01-17-2005, 12:28
Roger that. I am soon to be 38 and have just gotten back into riding after nearly 13 years of hiatus. I probably bought too big of a bike for me (BMW Rockster), but at least I know enough not to get it out on the main streets but keep to the back streets for now until I get used to the weight and the handling of the bike. Not to mention attending the Basic Ridercourse at MSF and loaded up on riding gears.

epsylum
01-20-2005, 16:30
That is definately an interesting article. I would have to ssay the sudden resurgence of older men wanting to ride motorcycles is due to the popularity of motorcycle/chopper shows on TV. They see it on American Chopper or whatever and feel they could be a part of something they might have once wanted be, but couldn't. They go buy a new Harley or chopper(face it the youngins, like me, cannot afford a Harley or chopper), and feel that it couldn't be all that hard. Generally they don't wear safety gear unless they have to. Then they find out there is more to riding a motorcycle than just, twist the grip and turn the bars. It's too late.

I am not condemning the shows. I think it's good TV and is good for the motorcyle market altogether. I am just saying people need to go about things in a more cautious manner.

Now about the "punk kids" thing. I think the reason for the decline of younger riders is due to the fact that some of these "idiots" doing wheelies such have actually been riding bikes and dirtbikes since they could walk. I know some of these "idiots" and some of them are REALLY good riders, not all but some. Is it safe for them to do wheelies on public roads with traffic? No. But, just because they are doing it doesn't mean they are horrible riders and would "pee thier pants if they compressed a fork". Hell, one person I know that does this races 125cc motocross and is EXTREMELY fast.

Alot of people who are into the street freestyle stuff would love to go to an empty parking lot but, the police come to arrest them if they do. They do it on the street so they at least have a way to blend into traffic so they can lower thier odds of a cop seeing them, unlike being a sitting duck with "arrest me" written on them in an empty lot.

Also another reason for death-rates dropping in the under 30 group. Riding gear is "cool" now. The flashy helmets, leather jackets, and gloves show you ride a bike. Flashy or not that stuff will save your butt. Again, the street riding "idiot" made that cool. Why? They KNOW they will wreck at some point, so be prepared.

So you got "idiot kids" whom grew up riding and like riding gear acting like a cocky kid on a bike. Versus some middle-aged guy who decided to take up motorcycles because of a TV show and buys a big bike to be "cool" and does not wear any protective gear because TV says that would be NOT "cool".

I base this on my own personal experience, it may be different where you live, but this is what I see. Also these were quite broad generalizations. Not everyone falls into a catagory, but the rise of chopper-TV coincides quite nicely with the rise of middle-aged motorcycle deaths.

matt3310
01-20-2005, 16:59
WELL SAID epsylum!

norton
01-24-2005, 20:20
Good article B.G.
I wonder how much of a factor alcohol is in the stats?
Most of the people I know who ride Harleys drink like fish. We have a group of riders in our small town who like to get on their flashy H.D's ( or pseudo H.Ds.) with open pipes in the summer and cruise up to the local watering hole. Later in the evening you can hear them roaring back presumably to their homes. These guys are all 40 somethings.
I am not saying all H.D riders are drinkers. But it goes with the lifestyle they are trying to imitate.
It could also be that there are just more cars to deal with on the road today.
Dr. Harry Hurt authored a ground breaking study on motorcycle deaths. He established at that time, that there was no real relationship between larger more powerful bikes and chance of a fatal accident. Smaller bikes were over represented in the statistics, probably because younger inexperienced riders were more likely to purchase a smaller bike.
My father in law died while riding his bike. He was 74 years old, and a 30,000 mile a year rider. I saw it happen.
It wasn't because he was speeding, drinking, or had slow reflexes.
He was just plain unlucky.

NYGunman
01-24-2005, 21:40
Originally posted by Clydeglide
That's cause stock Harley's can't go 115 MPH!!!!!!!;f

:cool: Sure they can...in the back of a pick-up truck! ;a ;f ;)

fit4christfit4life
01-26-2005, 04:16
I'm a R1 rider. Very safe, I have yet to do a wheelie. I do know a lot of people that are morons on bikes and b/c of that I won't ride with them. Riding with people like that will just get you killed.

Today I was at the mall with my wife and I noticed two harley riders getting on their bikes in the parking lot. They were at least 45 years old. Few seconds later we heard them revving their motors, then they TORE through the crowded parking lot. I made a comment to my wife about how it was ironic how the sportbike crowd has such a bad image among cruisers but yet they do the same thing.

I've just came to the conclusion, every type does it. I don't care who you are or what you ride. There are people that ruin it for everyone.

Matt

glock_19guy1983
01-27-2005, 02:30
Im young and quite often act like an idiot but you dont have to worry about me weaving in and out of traffic at 120 because this is what I ride. lets see what happens to some of those idiots on crotch rockets when you put them on a motocross track.;f

epsylum
01-28-2005, 16:10
Originally posted by glock_19guy1983
Im young and quite often act like an idiot but you dont have to worry about me weaving in and out of traffic at 120 because this is what I ride. lets see what happens to some of those idiots on crotch rockets when you put them on a motocross track.;f

Like I explained before, a lot of the "idiots on crotch rockets" grew up on a motocross track. That's one reason why they love wheelies so much and are skilled at it. They had practice on power-wheelie prone dirtbikes (or quads).

onefastseven
01-28-2005, 17:13
OK, I'm, new here, but really HATE it when people classify me as an idiot!:(

I'm a 30 yr old, who has had at least one motorcycle since I was 6. I've been street riding "crotch rockets" ;Q since I was 17. On my third one now, a 2003 Suzuki GSX-R 1000.

Let me turn the tables here. Why are all Harley/Cruiser riders pricks? I grew up thinking all motorcycle riders were one big happy family. Lately that's not true, as evident by your post. I wave at everyone one an a bike no matter what they ride. Cruiser riders never wave, ok, maybe 1 in 100 will. I can compliment a rider at a stop light on his bike, he'll just look at you like you are a moron and know nothing, let alone say "nice bike" back. All they want to do is rev their straigt pipes and want to race their 700 lb. boat anchor with $10,000 in hop up parts to up their hp rating to over 100 against my $9000 150+ hp "junk". Needless to say, haven't lost yet.

Just because you may have the money to afford a HD, doesn't mean you chose wisely IMHO.

I know where you are coming from with your statement, but there is no need to classify all sportbike riders as idiots. I've been witness to way more morons on HD's giving motorycles a bad name than sportbikers having fun by pulling an wheelie now and then. There is no need to be jealous just because your freight train can't pull the front off the ground.

Seriously though, I don't think you're an idiot because you ride a cruiser. Different strokes for different folks I say. The question you should be asking is, "Why do morons exist?". And for that I have no answer.

skorpio
01-28-2005, 18:26
I spent eight years professionally installing car audio, building competition vehicles, so I had access to a quality db meter. One day, just for kicks, we lined up my Honda RC51 with "race only ;Q" Sato exhaust, another co-workers Yamaha V-Star 1500 with Vance & Hines pipes, and my managers HD Softail Classic with Vance & Hines. At 6 feet distance from the outlet of the pipes, moderate to heavy throttle blips, my RC did 114 db, the V-Star did 156 db, and the Softail did a whopping 165 db. But I'm the one who had been questioned by "the man" for loud exhaust. Go figure.

Bladeruner69
02-02-2005, 13:15
Anyone who refers to motorcycles as "crotch rockets" might be an idiot.

Glocks&Ducs
02-02-2005, 13:32
Originally posted by RyanSBHF
I see bad drivers of all types: Young and old, men and women. It's funny that 16 yr olds usually ake fun of elderly drivers while they (16 yo) have the highest accident rate. I've heard some reccoment the driving age be raised to 18. I think it's a good idea myself. What do you all think?

I think that would not solve anything at all. The reason sixteen year olds have the most accidents is due to their lack of experience. If you move the age to eighteen, then you are going to have a bunch of eighteen year olds that lack experience and then most of the accidents are going to be blamed on eighteen year olds.

We need a stronger emphasis on the rules that were created for safety. The best thing we could do is invest in some of those simulators and make the kids drive those about a class period at a time and throw some scenarios at them and teach them how to react to them or avoid them in the first place. Hell, all they want to do is play video games anyway.

fnfalman
02-02-2005, 15:26
It would help if the mature riders would act maturely on the road and be examples for the younger and/or inexperienced riders. We have mature riders who are acting like fools on the roads and the kids are going to look at them and say what?

There's a time and a place for everything. Want to ride fast? Go scout out some good portions of a canyon highway that's not a major thoroughfare and go at it. That way if you were to kiss the pavement and kill yourself, you wouldn't cause anybody else to crash and get hurt with you. Wanna do wheelies? Go find an empty parking lot and go at it. The worse you'll get is a traffic ticket.

Of course, there's always the tracks if one were to want to ride like a MotoGP champion. There's no excuse for riding like an idiot on the streets.

And yes, I've been a bit harsh about the "sports bike" riders and made a general statement. But guess what? When was the last time anybody saw a Harley doing wheelie down the freeway? When was the last time you see a Beemer or a Japanese street bike screaming down the interstates at 120-MPH plus? Unfortunately I've seen motorcyclists of all kinds splitting lanes at high speed, so that blame can't be attributed to the "sports bike" riders alone.

Bladeruner69
02-02-2005, 15:27
Originally posted by SHEPHERD321
Lets just ban assault motorcycles, so we are all safer.

Then go for all firearms and then ......

Rogueplayer
02-02-2005, 15:59
I have been riding for many, many years. I am 34. I currently own a Ninja that I worked on for years also. You could liken it to another tricking out his Z28. Anyway, the motor puts out 245hp at the rear wheel with some help from NOS. I have had it with the HP for a few years. If I want to open it up. I head to the track. If I want to ride on the streets, so be it. Use some discretion. To my point, as in anything else, a few stereotype for all. It is amazing how everyone lumps us all in the same group;squids. How many times have you been at a Hooters or the like, see others on their bikes, tear through the lot. Probably the same amount as the squids tearing up the pavement on a metric bike.
Bottom line: There are a few of us who ride a metric bike that are great riders and can show some restraint.

Besides, I want to continue to come home and see my son.

skorpio
02-02-2005, 18:23
Tight bike, bro. Much props.

Clydeglide
02-02-2005, 19:22
Originally posted by fnfalman
When was the last time anybody saw a Harley doing wheelie down the freeway? When was the last time you see a Beemer or a Japanese street bike screaming down the interstates at 120-MPH plus?

I hate to go for the obvious here but none of those bikes (except a few BMW's) are capable of those things. Soooooo.........

:cool:

Rogueplayer
02-03-2005, 11:39
Action shots captured.

Rogueplayer
02-03-2005, 11:40
If you prefer AMA Superbike.

epsylum
02-03-2005, 21:34
McBride is friggin amazing. I go to Prostar every year here in Indy. He is like the main attraction. By that I mean, everyone has to stop what they are doing to watch "spiderman" go. It is uncontrollable. I mean it is the quickest 2-wheeled vehicle on the planet. You have to watch in amazement.


Oh yeah, Mladin is the man too.

Rogueplayer
02-04-2005, 08:17
2nd fav, only behind top fuel: FUNNY BIKE.

Rogueplayer
02-04-2005, 08:18
Another shot of Spiderman's ride.

greenleaf
03-04-2005, 22:23
i see far more unsafe riding by old fat guys on harleys. i cant remember the last time i saw a guy on a harley wearing a helmet, in fact i cant remember the last time i saw one wearing any saftey gear at all (unless you count sleeveless denim vests). its not quite fair to lable all young sport bike riders as idiots. i do agree triple digit speeds in traffic is not a good idea....

green

Stop CPR
03-05-2005, 00:51
It's hard to get that size 52 into a leather jump suit.

dfowler21
03-07-2005, 07:34
Originally posted by Glocks&Ducs
I think that would not solve anything at all. The reason sixteen year olds have the most accidents is due to their lack of experience. If you move the age to eighteen, then you are going to have a bunch of eighteen year olds that lack experience and then most of the accidents are going to be blamed on eighteen year olds.

Exactly! You can get a private pilot license at age 17. The age is not the problem but TRAINING is. You hear in all the other forums how important it is to train with your handgun, but lots of people ride/drive whatever with little to no regard for proper training.

Did anyone have REAL training when they did drivers ed? I know mine was a joke, and the driving test was about 5 minutes of nothing.

I know a girl who had a wreck because she didnt realize how abs worked. When the pedal started pulsing, she let off thinking it was broken. I know people who have spun a car straight off the road because they had never felt that before.

As a pilot, I train for emergencies so I know what to do. No one gets that with regular drivers ed, or even a basic MSF course. Track days and an accreditted school saves lives.