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Toyman
12-06-2004, 06:13
Keep this to good info, maybe it would make a good sticky.

Ok, let's hear what you use for Anti-Virus software. I currently use Norton, but I am thinking of switching because Norton's updates really don't happen when they should.

Here's some items you should list about the software you're using:

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Does it work good?
How are the automatic updates?
Is it by subscription? (new $$$ every year)
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Washington,D.C.
12-06-2004, 07:12
I have Norton right now but it just expired.I might change.Norton seems to have the most frequent updates and stays the most up to date.I tried AVG Free version before and updates were once a month or so.Anti-Vir seems to cause trouble in some PC's and the support is mostly in German.I like Avast.I don't know why it isn't more popular.It seems to work as least as well as AVG and the updates are when they are needed not the once or twice a month that AVG does for it's free version.My Norton is 2003 and I understand that Norton 2004 and 2005 are more difficult to uninstall.I would only pay for the updates I don't think I'll go for a newer version.I am looking really hard at switching to Avast though.

David_G17
12-06-2004, 07:53
I use Fedora Core and Suse for my A/V

Skyhook
12-06-2004, 07:59
I am using Norton- have for just about four years, now- AND I recently subscribed to my provider's "X-Factor" anti-virus program for $2/mo.
As the Norton was good at stopping the big nasties (each time it would it'd tell me w/pop-up notifier), the ISP's system stops everything- annoyance spam, viruses, trojan horses, etc.... I have, together with Mozilla, almost total freedom from all that.
So far.

RaiderRodney
12-06-2004, 10:47
AVG Anti-virus from Grisoft for over 2 years now and I haven't had 1 slip past...and I have downloaded a LOT of crap ;)

I get 2 or 3 updates a week from them.

bobby_w
12-06-2004, 12:48
Trend Micro's PCCillin. Very little overhead, fair price AND unlike Norton, you can remove it from your computer when you want. Norton plants pieces of itself all over your PC making it nearly impossible to remove without screwing up your machine.

I like Trend Micro's stuff so much that over the last 10 years I have purchased corporate licenses in the 10's of thousands. I have no idea of how many versions of their server version I have purchased. Must be at least 1000.

Romadoc
12-06-2004, 13:08
Another vote for Avast! Not only is it free but updates are automatic and very frequent. A message announcing updates appears briefly on the screen. Also has a setting to enable return to current file settings in the event of problems.

Zoolander
12-06-2004, 13:42
Norton 2003. Works good. Automatic updates are fair. I need to update my subscription in 3 weeks. I'm thinking about un-installing 2003 and installing 2005. Hmmm.

SamBuca
12-06-2004, 14:03
I've been using McAfee since 1993. VirusScan, then VShield, and now VSO (VirusScan Online 9.0).

1. Does it work good?

It works excellent. It has never let a bug through.

2. How are the automatic updates?

Totally automated. I have VSO set to do its thing...every day or so I'll wake up to a small window in the corner saying it was updated.

3. Is it by subscription? (new $$$ every year)

VSO is subscription based online...I think it's $39.99 every year, but my invoices say $29.99, $19.99, $29.99 and $29.99.

Installation is very easy...it's all done online. Simply let IE install an ActiveX control (similar to Windows Update), and you're good.

Also with McAfee, you can uninstall it VERY easily. It comes with the "Security Center" which handles the updates and integration of the entire McAfee suite of programs, and each individual program (VirusScan, Firewall, Privacy, etc). Uninstalling takes about 15 seconds.

Norton is a resource hog, the "internet security" portion of Norton has ALWAYS (read: 100% of the time) messed up my clients computers.

AVG was unable to detect a few worms and doesn't have good advanced heuristic scanning.

Trend Micro completely missed a bunch of viruses.

I try the others and I keep going back to McAfee.

Sulaco
12-06-2004, 14:12
I use AVG and haven't had any problems. It's free and updates regularly. I used to use Norton but it got too expensive and large.

fastvfr
12-06-2004, 14:43
AVAST! and AVG; I will stick with Avast until Grisoft gets the coding fixed for AVG 7.0 Free; it has caused issued with XP startups taking far longer, and I also have seen the IDE drives take upwards of two minutes to bring up an options menu when right-clicked...uninstalling AVG fixed both issues.

Although I only surf the Web with Fluxbox, KDE or Gnome running on a hardened Debian 2.6.8_i686 kernel, you can't be too careful. Both gaming machines use Avast now.

Avast works very well, even deleting some virii that AVG (my previous favorite) could find but not remove.

It self-updates every day, gives a voice/popup confirmation when it brings in another new database, the scanning parameters are very customizable for a free app.

And best of all, it is free.

NetNinja
12-06-2004, 16:15
Etrust antivirus 20 servers mixed environment NT 4.0/2000/2003
All employees run it on the company machines and thier personal machines.

http://store.ca.com/dr/sat3/ec_MAIN.Entry17c?CID=0&SID=35715&SP=10007&PN=5&PID=670572&DSP=&CUR=840&PGRP=0&CACHE_ID=179788


http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/

Three years ago I downloaded and installed AVG on a windows 2000 server. For some strange reason it became infected with a virus and I had to rebuild the darn thing.

I was running E-Trust antivirus on my other servers and they were updated that morning with the lastest virus pattern.

It took 1 whole day before AVG updated thier virus patterns.

Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice I can't afford that to happen again.

I am sure that AVG has cleaned upo thier act since then but with antivirus you can't afford to take chances.

Skyhook
12-07-2004, 05:07
Originally posted by Zoolander
Norton 2003. Works good. Automatic updates are fair. I need to update my subscription in 3 weeks. I'm thinking about un-installing 2003 and installing 2005. Hmmm.

When I purchased this '05 subscription to Norton and downloaded it, it would not install until I uninstalled my 2003 version. Not 'easy'.

pointman12
12-07-2004, 08:47
i use Nod32 and it kicks butt compared to most others...www.nod32.com...if you to www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?table and click on each of the programs, it will show their pass/fail rate...i've been using nod32 for 4-5 years now and never had a problem with it...

Riverweasel
12-07-2004, 09:37
I have Norton 2003 it expires in Jan 05.

I installed Avast (even though it said it may conflict with Norton).
Avast caught 2 virus that Norton missed. My auto update is on and I manually update it occasionally also.

This tells me Norton has flaws.
Not sure I'm going to renew Norton.
Comments please.

Washington,D.C.
12-07-2004, 10:01
I just noticed my Norton is 2002 not 2003.I had renewed it once before but it has recently expired.I ran Trend Micro's online scan and it found an infected file that has been in my PC for a while.Long before Norton expired.Norton never did find it.It wasn't a serious threat,it was only a joke fake virus.I have Windows XP and SP1 had slowed my PC and my CPU was always running at 100%.I installed SP2 and now PC is fast again and the Windows disk defragmenter now works much better.Some people say that they have problems with Zone Alarm 5 and there seems to be a new version almost every week.Zone Alarm 4.5 is suppose to cause fewer problems on certain PC's.I have one PC with Windows 98SE and I must use Zone Alarm 2.6 on it.

gwalchmai
12-07-2004, 11:14
AVG and Avast are very good, but I'm looking at a new GNU GPL antivirus called ClamWin (http://www.clamwin.com/) which looks very promising. Right now it must be run manually, but they're planning a resident version after the first of the year. Open source AV sounds good.

Zoolander
12-07-2004, 12:23
Originally posted by Skyhook

When I purchased this '05 subscription to Norton and downloaded it, it would not install until I uninstalled my 2003 version. Not 'easy'.

WTH?

What is the correct way to un-install Norton 2003?

Grrr.

Zoolander
12-07-2004, 12:27
Originally posted by Riverweasel

I have Norton 2003 it expires in Jan 05.

I installed Avast (even though it said it may conflict with Norton).
Avast caught 2 virus that Norton missed. My auto update is on and I manually update it occasionally also.

This tells me Norton has flaws. Not sure I'm going to renew Norton.

Comments please.

Uhh, I have Norton 2003 which expires in 3 weeks.

Gimme a link for AVAST.

Washington,D.C.
12-07-2004, 12:31
Originally posted by Zoolander
Uhh, I have Norton 2003 which expires in 3 weeks.

Gimme a link for AVAST. http://majorgeeks.com/download1968.html

Washington,D.C.
12-07-2004, 12:33
Originally posted by Zoolander
WTH?

What is the correct way to un-install Norton 2003?

Grrr. Norton has an uninstall utility on their website you can download.It says it's for Norton 2004 and 2005 but I've read it works with older versions.They are discontinued so they don't mention them.

Washington,D.C.
12-07-2004, 12:42
http://www.bl.com/moshe/text/quiddities/norton_errors.html and http://www.cit.cornell.edu/helpdesk/win/nav/uninstallnav.html and http://support.gateway.com/support/chat/software/antivirus/navui.shtml and http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nsw.nsf/docid/2001100212100807

Washington,D.C.
12-07-2004, 12:51
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nip.nsf/docid/2001090510510636

Washington,D.C.
12-07-2004, 12:52
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nip.nsf/docid/2003111409501936?Open&src=&docid=2001090510510636&nsf=nip.nsf&view=docid&dtype=&prod=&ver=&osv=&osv_lvl=

Washington,D.C.
12-07-2004, 13:04
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/sunset-c2002kb.nsf/f7d6cb402f0b760785256ee600549628/73bf2b6c4e168da785256edd00478da6?OpenDocument&src=bar_sch_nam

Washington,D.C.
12-07-2004, 13:05
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/sunset-c2002kb.nsf/f7d6cb402f0b760785256ee600549628/a1aaca2a55f88caf85256edd00478d58?OpenDocument&src=bar_sch_nam

Zoolander
12-13-2004, 02:42
Great links, thanks man!

How easy is it to un-install NAV 2004 and NAV 2005 down the road?

NAV has been good to me, except for one major incident were I was infected and it shut my NAV 2003 down about a year ago.

Bronson7
12-13-2004, 10:05
I like the AVAST free version. Works well.
Bronson7

Washington,D.C.
12-13-2004, 15:01
Originally posted by Zoolander
Great links, thanks man!

How easy is it to un-install NAV 2004 and NAV 2005 down the road?

NAV has been good to me, except for one major incident were I was infected and it shut my NAV 2003 down about a year ago. NAV 2005 http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2004072316001306?Open&src=sg&docid=2004090712504306&nsf=nav.nsf&view=5faa3ca6df6f549888256edd0061c0a4&dtype=&prod=Norton%20AntiVirus&ver=2005&osv=&osv_lvl=

Washington,D.C.
12-13-2004, 15:04
Originally posted by Zoolander
Great links, thanks man!

How easy is it to un-install NAV 2004 and NAV 2005 down the road?

NAV has been good to me, except for one major incident were I was infected and it shut my NAV 2003 down about a year ago. NAV 2004 http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/d4578f66d8f00a0188256d4e006aaa94/7acf65b345b0449f88256d7700623839?OpenDocument&prod=Norton%20AntiVirus&ver=2004%20for%20Windows%202000/Me/98/XP&src=sg&pcode=nav&svy=&csm=no and http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/d4578f66d8f00a0188256d4e006aaa94/9f87b423fda7cebe88256d97007bcdd0?OpenDocument&prod=Norton%20AntiVirus&ver=2004%20for%20Windows%202000/Me/98/XP&src=sg&pcode=nav&svy=&csm=no

Zoolander
12-14-2004, 20:24
My Norton is 2003 and I understand that Norton 2004 and 2005 are more difficult to uninstall.I would only pay for the updates I don't think I'll go for a newer version.I am looking really hard at switching to Avast though.

So... I can continue a new subscription with my old NAV 2003 and not worry about un-installing 2003 and then re-installing NAV 2005?

Washington,D.C.
12-14-2004, 22:16
You should be able to keep it.They try to sell the new one but you can renew the one you have.

unixglocker
12-14-2004, 22:50
Avast BART, once you use this you'll laugh at all the other software out there. It's $850 though.