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bdc
01-19-2005, 12:35
While properly gripping my G-29 (or any large frame Glock), the fingers of my strong han can not properly fit into the finger grooves. The trigger guard makes hard contact with my knuckle of my strong hand saluting finger. To some measure, the gun is recoiling off my knuckle.

The grip on the large frame Glock is more than .5" larger circumferance than it should and must be. The trigger guard design is larger and more intrusive than it needs to be as it approaches the grip area. The trigger finger angle is unfortunate as well. An unnecessarily wide lower frame, just to the rear of the trigger, interferes with trigger finger pull as well. The wide rear strap area of the G-29 is correct for pleasant recoil characteristics, however.

The trigger guard CAN be delt with:

Grip the (unloaded) G-29 as if to shoot, with trigger finger comfortably extended along the slide. Rotate the G-29 to observe where the trigger guard and finger grooves contact the boney areas of the middle finger. Tape the areas of the trigger guard and gun that are NOT to be altered.

With a sharp flat, round and half round files and 150 through 600 grit sandpapers: Remove only the trigger guard location that interferes. Check regularly as material is removed from the trigger guard. Check at the middle finger knuckle and top finger groove of the grip to obtain the fit desired.

I removed .10" vertically from the right rear low point of the trigger guard, while leaving the left rear trigger guard untouched.

The grip circumferance is effectively smaller for my hand because my fingers now grip fully into the groves. My middle and ring fingers now grip .10" higher on the grip, and that much closer to the barrel axis. My pinky finger grips the forward surface of the magazine floorplate. No magazine extensions are required or desired anymore. The overall size of the gun is that much smaller to conceal.

Feels like a completely different pistol. I don't spend anymore time searching for the correct or more comfortable grip.

Gripping higher, closer to the barrel axis, also causes different bullet weights/velocities to hit in a smaller target area, without any sight correction.

Finish the reworked trigger guard area with 600 grit sandpaper wrapped around files or dowels. The reworked surface will be lighter in color than the original finish because some reinforcing fibers are microscopically exposed. One coat of black shoe polish permanently re-dies those fibers for a finish the same color value as the original finish.

Looks good and well worth doing! Takes about an hour to complete, less if you have a padded vice, Dremel tools, talent and experience.

The material is easily shaped. Any amateur can do a quality job proceeding carefully with simple tools.

When I originally posted this same message a year ago, it received many favorable responses from members who altered both standard and large frame Glocks. The old posting has disappeared.

bdc
01-21-2005, 13:45
Another trick is to remove the grip "dimples" on the front and back strap to allow those shorter fingers to more completely surround the grip area. This can be done selectively for each finger/palm area.

More extensive reconturing of the rear strap is possible and commercially available from Robar and Lone Wolf. I don't think it is very comfortable, practical or cost effective.

Another blunder: It is a shame that Glock chose to make its 10mm offerings as bulky in the grip as the 45ACP. The 10mm only needs to be as wide as the 40SW frames. The cost savings to Glock can't be that significant when prorated over the number of guns produced, and the fact that they have changed their molds 4 times since the beginning of production.

bdc
01-24-2005, 13:17
Glock plastic frames can be repaired or altered to your taste and abilities. Check out the materials available at boat repair supply locations.

Bubba w/a 45/70
01-30-2005, 07:54
Thanks for the "shoe dye for coloring" knowledge. I have just removed the finger grips from my 36, and WHAT A DIFFERENCE! Added a pearce mag finger rest, and I now have the perfect pistol for my hands.

An already excellent pistol just made perfect.:cool:

RedDevil
01-30-2005, 20:24
Originally posted by Bubba w/a 45/70
Thanks for the "shoe dye for coloring" knowledge. I have just removed the finger grips from my 36, and WHAT A DIFFERENCE! Added a pearce mag finger rest, and I now have the perfect pistol for my hands.

An already excellent pistol just made perfect.:cool:

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