thejackbull45
01-28-2005, 19:18
I understand the GAP in the 38/39 but why buy a 37 when you could shoot a 21. This is not a flame I am curious.
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View Full Version : Why a 37? thejackbull45 01-28-2005, 19:18 I understand the GAP in the 38/39 but why buy a 37 when you could shoot a 21. This is not a flame I am curious. MadMax2012 01-28-2005, 19:28 ... the grip is smaller. If that doesn't matter to you... then I hope you do realize that not every gun is being designed to meet just your needs.. right? thejackbull45 01-28-2005, 19:30 Originally posted by MadMax2012 ... the grip is smaller. If that doesn't matter to you... then I hope you do realize that not every gun is being designed to meet just your needs.. right? No need to get uppity. Glock2336 01-28-2005, 19:30 When the G21 uses the G17 frame I'll buy one... In other words (and if you searched you'd find dozens of topics on this) the smaller frame as used on the 17/22/31/34/35 is more comfortable to me then the 21/20 frame. MadMax2012 01-28-2005, 19:43 ... as they were also self evident in your line of questioning. You find the 21 to be equivalent to the 37. ie.You find the grip on the 21 to be fine. Others do not find the 21 grip to be fine. By your line of questioning you obviously do not take this into account. (You were asking why?) Not bagging on you personally but when I see people ask these questions it's really only because they view the world in a very self serving manner. (ie. "If this wasn't designed to serve just my purpose then I don't know why any company would have ever produced such a thing.") I see plenty of products out there that I have no use for but I also take into account that someone out there may well have a valid reason for owning that same product. (I realize there are other consumers out there besides myself) Hope this helps get what I was trying to say across without seeming uppity. engineer151515 01-28-2005, 19:53 I like to shoot G21's too. But, when I saw a G17 frame that could launch 45 cal slugs, I said that puppy is a close to a 1911 Glock as I could get. Bought a G-37 before I ever held one. And, indeed, it has become my favorite Glock. Waiting for the G38 to come around... :) thejackbull45 01-28-2005, 20:05 Originally posted by MadMax2012 ... as they were also self evident in your line of questioning. You find the 21 to be equivalent to the 37. ie.You find the grip on the 21 to be fine. Others do not find the 21 grip to be fine. By your line of questioning you obviously do not take this into account. (You were asking why?) Not bagging on you personally but when I see people ask these questions it's really only because they view the world in a very self serving manner. (ie. "If this wasn't designed to serve just my purpose then I don't know why any company would have ever produced such a thing.") I see plenty of products out there that I have no use for but I also take into account that someone out there may well have a valid reason for owning that same product. (I realize there are other consumers out there besides myself) Hope this helps get what I was trying to say across without seeming uppity. I was actually wondering "what am I missing" because it is obviously popular here. I never thought "why doesnt it fit my purpose". I thought posting that this wasnt a flame would take care of any possible misconception. wizzi01 01-28-2005, 20:44 Most people come on our board and ask questions like this because they feel their 45 caliber is the only 45 caliber. It gets real old real quick and most of us are just sick of it. DannyR 01-28-2005, 20:45 Your question was a valid one. Answer is the .45GAP was designed so that a 9mm/40 frame sized pistol could launch a .45 caliber bullet. If you have a G21 and have ever held a G17, you know the difference in frame size is significant. Yes, Glock introduced the slimline G36, a single stack 6+1, thinner than a G19 grip, but longer than a G19 grip. Biggest complaint voiced by the public was lack of magazine capacity. The G36 is the slowest selling pistol in the Glock lineup. Glock went back to the drawing board to solve the problem voiced by so may .45 lovers--The G21 Is Too Fat. Answer was to shorten the nearly 100 year old cartridge while retaining it's performance through use of 21st Century powders. The .45GAP is not designed to replace the .45ACP, merely supplement it in a more user friendly package. jeffedu37 01-28-2005, 20:48 This is my first Glock and I love it ( Owned Sig's mostly). Also, if you notice many people who have chosen this model are stating it is now their favorite. I wanted information and did some research before purchasing the Glock 37. You may find URL=http://www.45gap.com]45 GAP[/URL] to be very informative. -Jeff thejackbull45 01-28-2005, 21:09 Thanks I didnt realize the difference in frame size. domzilla9 01-29-2005, 09:40 Surely I am not the only Glock Talker who actually prefers the .45/10mm frame thickness to the .40/9mm frame thickness? I took my sister, age 32, shooting for the first time last week. She had never shot a handgun before. We shot the G21 and the Ruger 22/45. She didn't have any interest in the Ruger but boy she sure did like that G21! The funny thing is, she didn't complain about the frame being too big. I think that's probably because she didn't know any better. I like the .45/10mm frame so much that I bought conversion barrels for my G20 to shoot .40 and .357 sig. Having shot the .357 sig in smaller framed weapons, I can say that I prefer to shoot it in the larger frame. If I had to carry that caliber I would carry it in the larger G20 frame instead of the G31, as I have no trouble concealing a G20 iwb. I welcome the addition of any new Glock pistol to the line up! I hope that my range adds them to the rental stable so that I'll have a chance to try one soon! Glock2336 01-29-2005, 12:19 But everyone is different... And maybe if she tried a smaller framed glock she'd like it even more, until she tries one she woun't know. I can comfortably go with the larger framed G21 if I wanted to, but then I'd get a G20 Ex-G30 and G36 owner Originally posted by domzilla9 MadMax2012 01-29-2005, 13:46 ... but you don't see me (or anybody yet) asking..." Why would anyone get a G21 when they could have a G37?" The answer is... because they can if they want. Ain't america great! Pug Puppy 01-29-2005, 18:57 A. .45 GAP is .455 Webley reborn! B. As long as it's chucking a .45 slug, it doesn't need to kick to kill. C. .45 is a good man stopper, even with FMJ ammo. D. It will safely feed in .45 acp revolvers-imagine a Webley eight-shooter D/A breaktop that uses full moon clips. E. The XD45 means that the pick up truck crowd can have a great gun, too! F. Reduced recoil is good for my carpal tunnel. G. John Browning, Paul Mauser, and Carl Walther would not have considered this round blasphemous-they'd have made new guns for it! Imagine a C96 or 1911 or P38, in .45 GAP. H. When the price crashes, XD45 GAP is what I'm getting.My C-Club for this year has an XD45 sighted in on it. thejackbull45 01-30-2005, 10:51 Originally posted by Pug Puppy F. Reduced recoil is good for my carpal tunnel. Doesnt higher pressure result in more recoil (45acp vs 45gap)?? engineer151515 01-30-2005, 11:18 Originally posted by Pug Puppy ......... D. It will safely feed in .45 acp revolvers-imagine a Webley eight-shooter D/A breaktop that uses full moon clips. .......... hmmmmmm. :) DannyR 01-30-2005, 11:51 Felt recoil is the result of pistrol weight, muzzle velocity and bullet weight--I've over-simplified.. Kid Dynamite 01-31-2005, 14:05 STUDIES WITH 200 GR FMJ AND 185GR JHP WERE DONE USING .45 ACP AND .45 GAP. RESULTS SHOWED THE .45 GAP SLIGHTLY HIGHER IN VELOCITY AND PENETRATION ( SLIGHTLY ). .45 GAP WAS DESCRIBED AS BEING MORE "SNAPPY", LIKE SHOOTING A HOT LOADED .40. RECOIL WAS EQUAL IN COMPARISON AND WAS CONSIDERED "CONTROLABLE". MPG1737 01-31-2005, 14:40 The 37 has very little recoil in my experience. I was pleasantly surprised to say the least. The odd thing is it seems to recoil to the left. Regardless, it is a tame pistol under recoil. MPG1737 01-31-2005, 14:42 Originally posted by Kid Dynamite STUDIES WITH 200 GR FMJ AND 185GR JHP WERE DONE USING .45 ACP AND .45 GAP. RESULTS SHOWED THE .45 GAP SLIGHTLY HIGHER IN VELOCITY AND PENETRATION ( SLIGHTLY ). .45 GAP WAS DESCRIBED AS BEING MORE "SNAPPY", LIKE SHOOTING A HOT LOADED .40. RECOIL WAS EQUAL IN COMPARISON AND WAS CONSIDERED "CONTROLABLE". Ease up on the CAPITALS!!! Kid Dynamite 01-31-2005, 14:47 MPG1737, ON THE RECOIL, IS YOUR BRASS EJECTING BACK TOWARD YOU? IF YOUR GRIP IS NOT FIRM ENOUGH, YOUR WEAPON WILL RECOIL TO THE LEFT AND BRASS WILL BE DROPPING ON YOUR HEAD. JUST A THOUGHT. LET ME KNOW. THANKS Kid Dynamite 01-31-2005, 14:48 Sorry about the Capitals. I was just being Lazy.. Pred8tory 01-31-2005, 15:05 I thought the 37 was mild regarding recoil until I tried some Winchester white box 230gr JHP and FMJ. It's pretty snappy in the lighter 37. A lot more than a 21 with the comparative loading. MPG1737 02-01-2005, 00:38 Originally posted by Kid Dynamite MPG1737, ON THE RECOIL, IS YOUR BRASS EJECTING BACK TOWARD YOU? IF YOUR GRIP IS NOT FIRM ENOUGH, YOUR WEAPON WILL RECOIL TO THE LEFT AND BRASS WILL BE DROPPING ON YOUR HEAD. JUST A THOUGHT. LET ME KNOW. THANKS ;z Yeah, I must be limp wristing it.;Q Kid Dynamite 02-01-2005, 12:32 "Yeah, I must be limp wristing it." Try using the glock next time. MPG1737 02-01-2005, 18:15 Originally posted by Kid Dynamite "Yeah, I must be limp wristing it." Try using the glock next time. What is that supposed to mean? vBulletin® v3.7.3, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. | ![]() |