Help Me Shoot my G17 Better!

[sr1sws]

Had my G17 a whopping 3 weeks. This is my first centerfire pistol in, well a VERY long time. Last was a S&W M39... and I'm not going to say if I got it new or used.

Apparently like everyone else, I tend to shoot it left... not down and left, but left. I've improved after putting probably 1000 rounds down the tube from about 2" left at 15 yds to about 1".

I've dorked with my finger position on the trigger - just at 1st joint now and gripping "front and back" instead of "sideways" and that's helped, but all is not right.

Any further suggestions, or should I throw in the towel and push the sight to the right .02"?

Suggestions, recommendations, accusations are welcome.

TIA
Steve

[G33]

Dry fire at home.
A lot.
Safety rules first.

[sr1sws]

Thanks for the feedback.

I've done a fair bit of dry fire, but must confess I've probably put more live fire into it.

Please coach me on what to look for/practice to/avoid when dry firing. I sight at a somewhat distant 'target' and put through, watching for movement of the front sight (well, obscene movement). Typically I see next to nothing, although I do catch myself with the occasional jerk up and right. See these in live fire too.

So any suggestions for 'perfect practice'? At this stage I'd be fairly happy to hold the 8 ring at 25yds on a B-16.

Thanks!
Steve

[Poduck]

How are your groups? If your groups are good,
it probably isn't your trigger work. Just push
the sights to get the bullets to hit where you're
aiming.

[sr1sws]

About 3" at 25 yds - typically with a couple of flyers where it appears I do manage to jerk.

[bcutrufelli]

Find out if you are flinching or jerking off target mix some snap caps into your live rounds. Made a major difference in my shooting

[Poduck]

+1

[sr1sws]

OK, experts... do I have a grip/trigger problem or should I just nudge the sights over? These were shot at 15 yds. See attached file.

Comments welcome and appreciated.

TIA,
Steve

[bcutrufelli]

yeah i used to shoot just about like that like i said try snap caps mixed into your clip, practice dry firing. Shoot the hell out of you gun because suprise of the shot and anticipation of recoil can do that

[wink]

I had a SW 39 that I got new if that tells you anything. With your 17, which is by the way my duty weapon, back the trigger finger off of the joint a little so that the trigger hits between the middle of the pad and the joint. On the trigger press, concentrate on bringing the trigger straight back into the frame so that your finger doesn't 'roll' on the trigger. Know think about your thumbs, try not to lock them down. Lay your strong thumb over your support thumb and point them towards your target. If this and your trigger time doesn't move your group, bump the sights and enjoy shooting!

[cvanhorne]

Looks like you're curling the trigger finger as you pull. wink posted a good tip on fixing this problem: don't sit the trigger at the last join of your finger, this is a recipe for curling, as it happens naturally when you pull on something.

[sr1sws]

Thanks Gents! I'm out of town now, but look forward to some more trigger time when back. In just reading your suggestions, I think that I'm probably curling the finger like you said. I'll try to focus more on that and on "pressing" back with the pad of my index finger.

Bright side is I do shoot this better than my old M39 - which I did acquire new ;P I never could shoot that '39 worth a fig!

Steve