GAP 45 and 45 ACP

[WRIG777]

Hello all.

Pardon if this has been talked to death.

I'm not in the engineering design business yet I was wondering about this.

Why couldn't a full-sized, single-stack, narrow, 45ACP Glock be made?

1. Can't be grip issues because I've fired other's full sized 21's that had a grip reduction performed on it. It was easily as small a grip radius of a 17.

2. The 45 ACP works in the relatively narrow frame of the model 36.

I know how market forces and other business decisions can alter the direction of a product series, yet why didn't they simply make a full sized version of the 36 that was a 10 or 11 round gun?

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[DannyR]

1. the grip length, front to back, of a g36 is longer than a g17 frame, giving it an awkward feel.

2. The g36 is Glock's slowest seller.

3. Biggest complaint about the G36 is reduced capacity.

4. Biggest complaint about a full sized single stack Glock .45ACp would be reduced capacity, followed by grip length, front to back.

Nobody complains about the .357Sig being derived from the .40S&W, but they sure like to complain about the .45GAP being derived from the almighty .45ACP.

[bac1023]

I wouldn't like it myself.

The G30 would be smaller, lighter, and hold more rounds.

[VictorLouis]

It's what people have been crying for for YEARS from GLOCK. Essentially, a 1911 in GLOCK form. A 5" bbl, with 7/8rd mag maintaining the thin slide and frame of the G36 would be THEE GLOCK to win over much of the 1911 crowd. Slap a factory thumb-safety on it, ala Tasmanian G17s, and it would be a LOCK!:D

[petej88]

One of the biggest complaints that 1911ers that I know have against the Glock is the trigger pull compared to their beloved single action crisp trigger. A full size 1911 Glock would not be a big seller, except for possibly some folks that already like Glocks in the first place or those looking for a decent priced .45ACP that works out of the box.

[Rusty Phillips]

Originally posted by WRIG777
Why couldn't a full-sized, single-stack, narrow, 45ACP Glock be made?

1. Can't be grip issues because I've fired other's full sized 21's that had a grip reduction performed on it. It was easily as small a grip radius of a 17.

2. The 45 ACP works in the relatively narrow frame of the model 36.

I know how market forces and other business decisions can alter the direction of a product series, yet why didn't they simply make a full sized version of the 36 that was a 10 or 11 round gun?

first of all - I dont really think the G36 is really all that thin.... its only 0.05 inches thinner than the G37/38 in the grip,

I also agree with Danny that everyone would byatch about reduced capacity of a true single stack gun.

I really do think that instead of a single stack Glock 45 with 8 shot capacity (putting a longer mag and grip on a G36) they should re-engineer the G21 grip to a stack and a half with 10 shots of 45 acp and keep the slide as it is (with a G37 style countouring / shaping)

The rationalle being that if they can get 10 shots of 45 gap in a grip 1.18 inches thick then they can get 10 shots of 45 acp in a grip that is 1.18 inches thick.

I would keep the full size G20/21/37 slide as reliability & shootability are most important to me, and I dont really think that the extra slide width over the 36 is a show stopper (and neither does Glock with the introduction of the 38 & 39)

and honestly, a stack and a half G21 (with a grip that is the same length as the G21 and the same width as the G37) would feel VERY MUCH like this hypothetical full size G36 that everyone says they want.


the other thing about a skinny gripped 45 acp stack and a half G21 is that it also allows a skinnier (1.18") gripped 15 shot G20

Would Glock do it? I dont know. I think it really depends on what else is available on the market and if some other manufacturer is able to carve a niche somewhere in between the G21/30/36/37/38/39.

[Rusty Phillips]

I will say this - I think that Glock should also make slightly longer gripped wersions of the G30/36 (with no other changes) and get rid of that mag extension floorplate thing) so that in profile it looks more like a G19/23/32/38

I believe they'd sell a pretty fair number of em.






and the 10mm guys would want a 13 shot version too please!






having said all that, I could have saved a lot of money over the last 15 years if I had stopped after that first G19 and never bought another Glock...... I mean I can only shoot them one at a time, why do I need 4,5,6, or 10?

[CougarRed]

Originally posted by DannyR

Nobody complains about the .357Sig being derived from the .40S&W, but they sure like to complain about the .45GAP being derived from the almighty .45ACP.

I thought the 357SIG was a necked down 9mm.

[DannyR]

The .357Sig is a 9mm bullet in a necked down .40S&W casing.