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I don't really have a "need" for another pistol, but just for kicks I might buy a cheap one.
What's the most reliable SNS? It doesn't have to be pretty, just feed reliably.
Thanks
-Emt1581
RyanSBHF
02-17-2005, 01:01
The Makarov. It qualifies as an SNS cuz it's small, cheap & affordable.
I've heard that before. But I was curious if any of the normal SNS guns were reliable. Examples are Lorcin, Bryco, Jennings, Cobra, Hi-Point, etc.
Makarov seems to be a respected gun, the same cannot be said for the rest of them.
Thanks for the reply.:)
-Emt1581
c_w_cunningham
02-17-2005, 06:28
I hate to confess it, but many years ago I bought a jennings j22. It has always worked fine, but a few years back the safety's ball-bearing and spring popped out. I took out the external safety lever after removing the grip, and the little gun still works fine.
Jack2427
02-17-2005, 06:34
Kel-tec, I have used the 32, and now use the 380, have their 9mm also. All of them have been reliable and as accurate as their rudimentary sights will let them (or me) be.
emt1581
Hi-Point is very reliable. If they would increase their price by 200.00 they would get the respect that they deserve. Well never mind- they are still butt ugly and will never get respect.
I've never owned one, But in talking to people that actually have, the Hi-Points are more reliable than Kel-Tecs.
Makarov's would be a good choice as well, but most Mak owners would get upset at us calling them SNS's.
SmartOne
02-17-2005, 09:19
Originally posted by hotpig
emt1581
Hi-Point is very reliable. If they would increase their price by 200.00 they would get the respect that they deserve. Well never mind - they are still butt ugly and will never get respect.
:) I'll second that! Many of the desperados around here carry and use Hi-Point pistols. Sure, they may look just about as ugly as Rosie's butt and are bulky beasts to wear; however, these pistols are, also, unquestionably: effective, reliable, and cheap. (Just like Rosie!)
If a good looking weapon isn't important to you; or if you may need to stash a piece under a rock in all sorts of weather for hours at a time, then, a durable Hi-Point pistol would be the right gun to choose. As a matter of fact I'm, even, thinking about stashing one behind the barn as a, 'bug out gun'! ;)
So the hi-points are good? Cool.
I bet they wouldn't fair as well hidden outside over time like a Glock would. Then again we are talking SNS's here...which the Glock is DEFINITLY not!
Thanks for the replies!
-Emt1581
RyanSBHF
02-17-2005, 13:03
Originally posted by emt1581
I've heard that before. But I was curious if any of the normal SNS guns were reliable. Examples are Lorcin, Bryco, Jennings, Cobra, Hi-Point, etc.
Makarov seems to be a respected gun, the same cannot be said for the rest of them.
Thanks for the reply.:)
-Emt1581
I do know one guy who had a Jennings which actually worked. But it was very picky about ammo, he said.
countryboy7978
02-18-2005, 10:20
I have both a Jenning J-22 and a Hi-Point 9mm. The jennings never got through a box of ammo, even CCI stingers (which were by far the most reliable), without a stoppage of some sort. The Hi-Point has NEVER had a stoppage, and I've fired hundreds of rounds through that thing. I'd vote Hi-point.
On a side note: A popular gun magazine rated the Hi-point Carbine above a much more expensive Ruger Carbine in a recent test. Those things are pretty accurate for the crappy sights they have, and keep shooting like nobody's business.
gunguru1
02-18-2005, 19:43
I've heard good things about the Phoenix Arms HP-22.
ChuteTheMall
02-18-2005, 20:52
Originally posted by gunguru1
I've heard good things about the Phoenix Arms HP-22.
My Phoenix HP-22 is great, it's much better than my Jennings J22.
I don't consider my Makarov or my Kel-Tec P32 to be Saturday Night Specials, but both are worthwhile investments. One is a medium sized but heavy commie military/police sidearm, and the other is the absolute state of the art in light, thin back-up guns. Both are in questionable calibers, with stopping power less than 9mmP. Combine the best of both with the P3AT? Might be one of my next moves.
I'll put up the HP-22 against any similar size .22 LR pistol for reliability and accuracy, plus it has surprisingly good adjustable sights.
I've seen one with the optional 5" barrel machined and threaded with a suppressor attached, that's a cool quiet package, much smaller and thinner than the usual Ruger setup.:cool:
HP22 prices are around $99, plus $40 for the cool spare 5" barrel with a finger-rest mag. Get them while you can.
Decades ago had a Raven .25 that NEVER missed a beat. The HP-22 seem great for the $$$ nower days as well :-)
Loandr.
If you want something small get the Raven, you will love it. If you want something larger, get the hipoint, you will love it. If you dont have a Makarov yet, get one. One Makarov seams to multiply to five more Makarovs very quickly. That is how good they are. Finally if you want something powerful, unique and inexpensive get the CZ52. They are canons and a real hoot to shoot.;z
Wingnut357
02-26-2005, 01:48
A Makarov is not a SNS. It's a service pistol formerly issued by the Evil Empire. If they had issued Bryco weapons we would have won the cold war in 1957.
thinkfast
03-03-2005, 13:40
The most reliable "el cheapo" I ever had was a Rossi .38 j-frame clone.
Nothing fancy, just a plain ol' steel frame 5-shot with factory walnut grips.
Got it (barely) used for 130.00 and it was 100% reliable. Trigger pull was very nice, it felt similar to my 442 that cost 3 times as much.
Don't know why I traded it, should've bobbed the hammer & kept it as a 'beater' gun!
best sns in my mind would be a snub 38 revolver. i have never had a prob from a revolver
Urban_Cowboy
03-18-2005, 21:26
I too feel that my Makarov isn't an SNS. It may be cheap in price, but not in quality.
That aside, I just picked up a Raven .25 and it doesn't fully cock after a good bit of target shooting (6-7 magazines), but I think that is only because it's been in storage for years. The guy I bought it from only shot 6 rds out of it and put it away. I plan on giving it a good grease job tomorrow and take it to the range.
Jerseycitysteve
03-21-2005, 14:28
Originally posted by thinkfast
The most reliable "el cheapo" I ever had was a Rossi .38 j-frame clone.
Nothing fancy, just a plain ol' steel frame 5-shot with factory walnut grips.
Got it (barely) used for 130.00 and it was 100% reliable. Trigger pull was very nice, it felt similar to my 442 that cost 3 times as much.
Don't know why I traded it, should've bobbed the hammer & kept it as a 'beater' gun!
I agree. The Rossi is the absolute best cheap revolver. The Rossi launches rounds like a fat man spitting watermelon seeds. I remember firing a Rossi 4" .357 that would shoot two separate groups of three when held steady at 7 yds.
We don't buy snubbies to drive tacks anyway.
BobbyJoe
03-22-2005, 00:24
Originally posted by hotpig
emt1581
Hi-Point is very reliable. If they would increase their price by 200.00 they would get the respect that they deserve. Well never mind- they are still butt ugly and will never get respect.
In the defense of Hi-Point, they do have a lifetime warranty. I like them. They are affordable, and pretty reliable.
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