Weaver or Iso when you shoot your M series

[CGuns]

I am on the fence on this one.

I seem much more comfortable shooting my M9 in a weaver stance.

I am trying to switch over to the ISO stance for the M9, but it isn't comfortable at all.

What are you shooting and what is your opinion on the stance?

It seems to me ISO has become increasingly popular in the past 5 or so years and has "discredited" Weaver. Why is this?

Thanks, CGuns

[srfl]

I'm an isosceles shooter myself.....In training, use the Weaver stance if I'm "engaged" from the left while facing a "threat" in front of me.....I think the Weaver is an effective stance if you don't exaggerate the stance such as blade your body too much if you have a target directly in front of you...if you're an LEO, you can expose too much of your side which may or may not be covered by your body armor if you blade your body too much. Of course that is all a moot point if you aren't wearing body armor.

[DAIadvisor]

I use a combination of all the methods I learned while in training. Comes down to what you feel comfortable with and be able to hit the targets. :)

[Zundfolge]

I've always naturally fallen into the Weaver ... but when I force myself into Iso I shoot better ... its just that Weaver is so natural to me that I imagine that in a crisis situation I'll probably use it.

I need to train more.

[Carlitos]

I am with DAI on this one. I use a stance that is neither iso or weaver. I guess since I carry my M40 for defense, what matters to me is being able to put rounds exactly into center of mass as fast as possible & both iso and weaver don't work very well for fast, accurate shooting. Most of my shooting is done in the clock; i.e., with a timer. I shoot standing, sitting, squating, leaning around a barricade, left handed, right handed, draw right & transfer to left - just whatever is needed to put those rounds in the center of mass as fast as possible before my "opponent" can attack/return fire. While the iso & weave stances might work OK for slow fire, they are too rigid & not practical for personal protection, IMHO. A better stance is near square to the target with the strong foot just slightly to the rear. If you saw American Shooter recently, Mr. Doug Koenig (former winner of the National Police Pistol Championship/Bianchi Cup) demonstrated the same stance.

I shoot IDPA, USPSA, GSSF (do not care for GSSF's suggested stance either) steel, pins, etc. My stance is often similar to that suggested by DAI. Regards,

D.C. Johnson

[CGuns]

I forced myself to shoot Iso this weekend and I produced tighter, more accurate and consistant groups with Iso than with Weaver. Despite the fact that I find it uncomfortable. It is mainly feet placement that I don't like. I will try placing my right foot back a bit. I suspect that this will help.

Regards, CGuns

[Carlitos]

This is a good discussion & it mirrors/slightly overlaps the discussion on grip & stance here in the Steyr section under this link:

http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=342255

I agree with the forum member "idpasteyr" & would just add the following:

-I do not wrap my weak hand index finger around the front of the triggergaurd. No one I know personally does that. So, it must be the "wrong" way, right?

The current world champion in pistol shooting, Eric Graufel, wraps his weak hand index finger around the trigger gaurd. He shoots better than I ever will. I guess I must be wrong.

Honestly, I think its more about what has proven to work for you. The timer does not lie. What ever lets you shoot the most accurately (and in my case, accurate AND fast) is the right way. Regards,

D.C. Johnson