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SlammedDime
05-29-2005, 14:32
I'm gonna be starting at ASU in the fall, and I'm looking to get a nice laptop to go with. I got about $1200 to spend. Anyone have any recommendations? Anything I should look for? Whats the word on Dell and Gateway laptops? I'm a desktop kinda guy, so I know what good components are for desktops, but laptops, i'm at a loss for. Would I be better off going to like Best Buy or Circuit city and getting a brand name laptop?

LittleLebowski
05-29-2005, 14:35
Dell or IBM. Toshiba perhaps. IBM is best by far in quality but not cheap. Get a Pentium M proc and get a warranty. Avoid Worst Buy and avoid their warranty. If you really want a quality computer, get an Apple Ibook.

SlammedDime
05-29-2005, 14:50
Here's a few I've been looking at:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1109938021253&type=product&skuId=7126978&tab=6

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7119717&type=product&productCategoryId=cat01174&id=1109233830127

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/featured_notebook3?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=317711&pfp=52905sale

darin2
05-29-2005, 20:51
Alienware is running a special for a few more days with laptops starting at $999

Check it out HERE (http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/Sentia/sentia_features.aspx?SysCode=PC-LT-SENTIA&SubCode=SKU-PERFORMANCE)

LittleLebowski
05-29-2005, 20:59
Apple iBook. Lasts forever, doesn't crash, no spyware, no viruses, no Windows, everything JUST works. It's as simple as that.

SlammedDime
05-29-2005, 22:33
I'd like an ibook, but I don't think that would flow with my Computer science curriculum very well. Yes, I could get a windows emulator for it, but thats just more work.

I'll check out alienware... thanks.

kilroy2721
05-29-2005, 22:36
My choice would be a Dell Lattitude D610

LittleLebowski
05-29-2005, 22:40
Speaking from a network adminstrator's experience the Dells are cheap but poorly made. The IBMs are built like tanks and very Linux friendly and my favorite PC laptop. Toshibas are not bad. Avoid HP/Compaq.

SlammedDime
05-29-2005, 23:17
Yea, I think I may get an IBM... I think i'll be willing to spend a lil more if I have to

cmb2874
05-30-2005, 07:05
Get a powerbook.

SlammedDime
05-31-2005, 02:31
K, here's what I've come up with from IBM:

ThinkPad R51
Model 1836Q4U
Free ThinkPad Port Replicator II
Intel Pentium M processor 725 (1.6GHz 2MB L2 Cache 400MHz FSB)
Microsoft Windows XP Professional
ATI Mobility RADEON 7500
15.0 inch XGA (1024x768) TFT Display
512 MB (2 NonParity DDR SDRAM SoDIMM PC2700)
ThinkPad 40GB Hard Disk Drive
ThinkPad 24X/24X/24X/8X Max CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo V Ultrabay Enhanced Drive
10/100 Ethernet and 56K V.92 designed modem
Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BGCost: $1199 Shipped

Hard drive space is a non issue. I have 200+ GB in my desktop here if I ever need extra storage space, and I'll prolly get a 160GB ATA drive and put it an external box and hook it up via usb.... that way I can use it on my desktop too.

LittleLebowski
05-31-2005, 09:35
Do you need a port replicator? I doubt it personally. I order and issue out the R51s and that's one sweet laptop.
I'll put it this way, if I was buying a PC laptop, that's EXACTLY what I would buy. See if you can dump the port replicator and get an extended factory warranty.
Seriously, good choice. Big screen, fast, thin profile, built in wireless, fast chip.

SlammedDime
05-31-2005, 12:54
Originally posted by LittleLebowski
Do you need a port replicator? I doubt it personally. I order and issue out the R51s and that's one sweet laptop.
I'll put it this way, if I was buying a PC laptop, that's EXACTLY what I would buy. See if you can dump the port replicator and get an extended factory warranty.
Seriously, good choice. Big screen, fast, thin profile, built in wireless, fast chip. I don't need the replicator, but it comes free with the laptop, so why not? heh. As far as the extended warranty, I'll probably go with one, just not sure which one yet.

LittleLebowski
05-31-2005, 13:00
Nope, you're on track. Better deal than what I pay for corporate R51s. Think you'll like it.

allanc
05-31-2005, 15:28
Check the Dell coupons online (do a search). I found one for $750 off selected model notebooks priced at $1499. I got free delivery, too.

SlammedDime
05-31-2005, 23:20
K, I know its a Dell, butttttt, it seems sooooo much better. And it has a 3 year Limited warranty, which would work for me while I'm in school.

Dell Inspiron 9300
Intel® Pentium® M Processor 730 (1.60 GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB)
Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen XGA+ Display
512MB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm
64MB ATIs™ Mobility Radeon™ X300
80GB Hard Drive
Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem
8x CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer write capability
Intel® PRO/Wireless 2200 Internal Wireless (802.11 b/g, 54Mbps)
3Yr Ltd Warr,At-Home Service,and Tech Support plus Nights and Weekends
Free Dell Color Printer 720
1Yr Ltd. Warranty- Advance ExchangeOnly $1246 shipped, same as the IBM above (I forgot Tax when I listed the IBM price above, and I had to go down to 256MB of ram to get it $1242 with tax)

LittleLebowski
05-31-2005, 23:32
Good deal but like I said, in the business world I want to buy laptops that will last anything. It's your money and you will be happy with it regardless. I would get a 15" screen for the best combination of viewability and portability.

Michael Dean
06-01-2005, 07:57
FWIW

I know this is kinda like the Ford vs Chevy discussion. I bought an IBM laptop several years ago, had nothing but trouble with it. Batteries were crap, had the motherboard replaced. Corporately my company bought IBM laptops for several of us. Again nothing but trouble with them. Company finally started replacing them with Dell laptops. I have had 3 different Dell's now. Great computer, no problems. If I needed to buy a laptop for myself today, it would for sure be a Dell.

Just my .02, YMMV

Good luck, Mike

SlammedDime
06-02-2005, 02:07
I decided to go with the IBM. Thanks to a very good friend of mine who I trust who deals with laptops and many clients daily, and thanks to LittleLebowski, I felt that, for my needs, the IBM is the better bargain for me.

LittleLebowski
06-02-2005, 07:39
let us know how you like it.

proguncali
06-02-2005, 09:54
<-------has dealt with thousands of Dell Laptops and has had minimum problems. Service has been first rate, next day replacement of parts if needed, will replace anything that is broken or scratched on the case for free including I got my screen replaced for free.

IBM are ok in my book....they're heavy, clunky and I'm not too familiar with their warranty....

SlammedDime
06-02-2005, 11:29
Originally posted by proguncali
<-------has dealt with thousands of Dell Laptops and has had minimum problems. Service has been first rate, next day replacement of parts if needed, will replace anything that is broken or scratched on the case for free including I got my screen replaced for free.

IBM are ok in my book....they're heavy, clunky and I'm not too familiar with their warranty.... The IBM that I'm getting is about 3 lbs lighter than the dell I was gonna get, as well as smaller in all dimensions, which was another reason why I decided to go with it.

proguncali
06-02-2005, 19:07
Originally posted by SlammedDime
The IBM that I'm getting is about 3 lbs lighter than the dell I was gonna get, as well as smaller in all dimensions, which was another reason why I decided to go with it.



Cool....


I hope you like it! Give us a report....

LittleLebowski
06-02-2005, 19:12
Issued out 8 of them in the past 2 weeks. First thing you do is uninstall the trialware edition of Norton Antivirus. Then run msconfig and go to Startup and hit disable all and reboot. That will disable all of the stupid IBM utilities in one shot.

SlammedDime
06-02-2005, 19:32
Originally posted by LittleLebowski
Issued out 8 of them in the past 2 weeks. First thing you do is uninstall the trialware edition of Norton Antivirus. Then run msconfig and go to Startup and hit disable all and reboot. That will disable all of the stupid IBM utilities in one shot. I was actually planning on just wiping the hard drive, and installing a fresh XP Pro copy that I have. Good idea? Bad? Its much easier your way of course.

LittleLebowski
06-02-2005, 20:07
If you know what you're doing it's fine. This isn't a Dell though. The IBM stuff will uninstall cleanly.

SlammedDime
06-02-2005, 21:03
Originally posted by LittleLebowski
If you know what you're doing it's fine. This isn't a Dell though. The IBM stuff will uninstall cleanly. ^c I'll go the easy route first then. :)

SavannahGL
06-03-2005, 19:19
I got an R51 a little while ago, and love it.

Thinkpad R51 Notebook - Model 1830AHU
Pentium M 1.5GHz, 512MB RAM, 40GB 4200rpm HDD, 14.1 XGA(1024x768) TFT LCD, 32MB ATI Radeon 9000, CD-RW/DVD, Intel 802.11b/g wireless, Modem, 1Gb NIC, UltraNav, Secure Chip, IEEE 1394, Windows XP Pro

Not sure I understand getting rid of all the IBM stuff, though? Don't I need some of it (like the wireless manager?

I did ditch the anti virus and got AVG, sped me up a lot. Then I added 1 gig of memory.

I'd like to know more about cutting out some of the extras that I don't neeed.

LittleLebowski
06-03-2005, 23:00
I ditch all of the IBM crap that loads at startup using msconfig as mentioned above. You just use Windows to manage your wireless like everybody else does instead.

SlammedDime
06-04-2005, 02:00
Good news, because I'm using my Visa card, I was able to get the price of the IBM down to $1117.86 shipped, instead of $1242. :)

proguncali
06-05-2005, 17:56
Originally posted by LittleLebowski
If you know what you're doing it's fine. This isn't a Dell though. The IBM stuff will uninstall cleanly.


That's more of an OS thing not a manufacturer thing....


I wipe every machine I get no matter what it is and start fresh.


Installing XP doesn't take a ton of knowledge...

LittleLebowski
06-05-2005, 18:09
From personal experience, the Dell software is a pain in the ass to uninstall. And yes, installing XP isn't rocket science but I hesitate to advise someone to wipe a box completely and spend a day installing XP, looking for this sound driver or that wireless driver. From a professional standpoint as someone who issues out R51s, I would just disable EVERYTHING in Startup using msconfig, uninstall everything in IBM related Add/Remove Programs except for the Soundmax drivers and the IBM mousepad driver. 10-15 minutes tops and you have the equivalent of a new XP install. Then throw on AVG antivirus, MS Anti Spyware beta, Spybot Search and Destroy, a good hosts file to block malware, Firefox, and Thunderbird. Were it my laptop, I'd install Linux but I digress.... It always has amazed me what Windows users put up with.

proguncali
06-07-2005, 11:58
Originally posted by LittleLebowski
From personal experience, the Dell software is a pain in the ass to uninstall. And yes, installing XP isn't rocket science but I hesitate to advise someone to wipe a box completely and spend a day installing XP, looking for this sound driver or that wireless driver. From a professional standpoint as someone who issues out R51s, I would just disable EVERYTHING in Startup using msconfig, uninstall everything in IBM related Add/Remove Programs except for the Soundmax drivers and the IBM mousepad driver. 10-15 minutes tops and you have the equivalent of a new XP install. Then throw on AVG antivirus, MS Anti Spyware beta, Spybot Search and Destroy, a good hosts file to block malware, Firefox, and Thunderbird. Were it my laptop, I'd install Linux but I digress.... It always has amazed me what Windows users put up with.


I never try to uninstall that crap....

I tend to take advantage of Ghost....


When I can't to that I just grab the XP disk and driver disk and go....

LittleLebowski
06-07-2005, 12:42
Of course you use Ghost. And I Acronis True Image. But we are both advising a home user here, keep that in mind.

kawalerzysta
06-09-2005, 13:13
www.ibuypower.com

grantglock
06-09-2005, 14:54
If you buy from Gateway, my girlfriend works there and she would love to sell you one.

greenlead
06-10-2005, 02:41
You might consider a convertable tablet as well: you can take handwritten notes as well as typed notes, for when speed matters.

SlammedDime
06-10-2005, 03:12
The IBM arrived today via UPS... three day shipping from Hong Kong... not bad. I'm having a ball installing stuff on it, getting rid of what I don't need on it, and having fun sitting in my bed replying to GT.... :)

LittleLebowski
06-10-2005, 14:55
Notice how solidly put together it is compared to a Dell?

SlammedDime
06-10-2005, 16:08
Never had a dell, so I can't compare, but compared to my sis' gateway... its a lot more durable, IMO.

Bigbob265
06-16-2005, 14:56
Congratulations on the IBM! I have the Dell C-600 and the IBM R-50. There is no comparison, and I used to love Dell until I got one. The hinges on the monitor break often, also screen problems, batteries are no good, the keys get stuck, etc. etc. Enjoy the IBM.

mitchshrader
06-21-2005, 01:57
did you wind up with 256 ram or not? cause i can promise that XP likes 512 a lot better'n 256, for performance.

n' to know, your hard drive will last longer if you don't force it to use the page file (virtual memory) as much.

the extended warranty won't get your data back if the h/d crashes, it's a good idea to avoid it as long as possible.

check out XenTweak, as well.. for a ton of performance tweaks. Carefully, you can do things you'ld rather not, READ before clicking.


LinkHere (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mrx9000/)

XenTweak is close to the bottom of the page. A gem, have fun!

SlammedDime
06-21-2005, 02:00
I only got the 256. I"m waiting for a nice sale on ram, either at Fry's or elsewhere to pickup another 256 chip. I hate running on 256, since I'm used to this 512 HyperX from Kingston on my desktop.

Bigbob265
06-21-2005, 10:32
DITTO ON THE "512"

LittleLebowski
06-25-2005, 11:27
SlammedDime, I have some 256 sticks laying around doing nothing....

SlammedDime
06-28-2005, 01:09
Originally posted by LittleLebowski
SlammedDime, I have some 256 sticks laying around doing nothing.... PC2700, 200 pin? Brand, model? How much ya want for one?

Edit:Edit: Scratch the 3200 question.

LittleLebowski
06-28-2005, 01:12
Don't worry about it. PM me with your address.

hypnotic
07-19-2005, 14:43
umm buy a sager, you dont have to worry about all the crap software dell, HP, and other companies install, you can have it delivered with a fresh harddrive, and put your own stuff on it, tons of help at sagerforums.com