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jojo_G19
06-27-2005, 11:33
mga tol;

i need some opinion here; balak ko kasi bumuo nang another .40 pang std, hindi lang ako makapagdecide if gagamit ako nang paraord reciever or STI long dust reciever,

para ord cons:
- higher capacity
- grip can be made more rounder and smaller.

STI cons
- long dust
- pogi

i already have a paraord p16-40, balak ko lang kasi bumili nang major parts (barrel, slide, reciever) bago tumaas ang mga prices bec. of the eVAT-:soap: :( .

the parts that ill be using will all be STIs pwera lang sa barrel which will be bar-sto or scheumann(spelling?) if ill be able to find one.;f



tnx
jojo

Eye Cutter
06-27-2005, 16:36
jo,

try mo naman STI long dust. meron ka na P16 e. you can use the SPS magazines. 18+1 rds na capacity nito.

i'm using a barsto barrel. masyado maselan. mapili sa bala. i've had the smiths ream my barsto. next time i get another barrel, i'll use schuemann.

Allegra
06-27-2005, 18:20
Can someone confirm that metrillo is modifying STI frames to accept Para mags
Nagulat ako kahapon when a friend told me yun daw sabi sa kanya ni Pabling Metrillo

Eye Cutter
06-27-2005, 18:29
di ba kelangan ibuka magazine opening sa itaas ng sti grip to accept the para mag? baka naman madali mabasag pag ganun. ang mahal pa naman ng polymer grip, more than 10k.

i've seen a fake sti frame using armscor/mecgar mags. pero low volume shooter yung owner ng pistol. i don't know kung tatagal.

Allegra
06-27-2005, 19:47
Sabni daw, puro americano clients nila

jasonub
06-27-2005, 20:12
they will have to cut part of the frame. so i said wag na lang.


It has never been a factor for me since you can always reload on the move. besides michael voigt won numerous ipsc matches with an 18 round mag.

besides pogi for the sti frame in my case svi, it will last forever as long as hindi peke;)

jojo_G19
06-27-2005, 21:16
DOC;

ive heard, pahirapan daw ngaun ang schuemann barrel., dont know how true though.

looks like im leaning into STI fram nlang ah, mukhang c idol doc ang determining factor..ung 18+1 ba may +2 bse pad na un?


tnx
jojo

Eye Cutter
06-27-2005, 23:53
jo,

Yung sps magazines meron na +2 pads. Sabi sa PB meron raw parating na mga schuemann barrels sila. Ang mahal na ng STI frame! Goodluck sa bagong project!

mikol
06-27-2005, 23:56
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
jo,

Yung sps magazines meron na +2 pads. Sabi sa PB meron raw parating na mga schuemann barrels sila. Ang mahal na ng STI frame! Goodluck sa bagong project!

magkano na ngayon doc? i've started saving na kasi for a comp boomer. ;f

Eye Cutter
06-28-2005, 00:55
the sti long dust cover is more than 45k, frame pa lang. walang magazine kasama. Only the trigger and magazine catch.

same with the sps long dust. 40k. Yung short dust cover 25k! Wait for the gunshow this july.

homer_m
06-28-2005, 01:00
STI long dust frame alone would cost you 50k (license + 1 mag, trigger, mag release & msh) and 20k for the schuemann barrel. if i am to built one now i'd go for the schuemann barrel with sight tracker (hybrid barrel without the holes). i think it was originally designed by SVI but i've seen one last weekend built on an STI platform. looks cool and ipsc legal. 23K for the barrel.:)

Eye Cutter
06-28-2005, 01:23
50k na pala frame! abutin ka na pala 150k+ to build a standard pistol.

yung sps open gun project ko hanggang ngayon nakatago pa rin sa baul sa dami pang kulang na parts! magkano kaya abutin sa smithing noon! hahahaha!

jasonub
06-28-2005, 02:20
sell it to me na lang doc. ill be the one who will go open;P

mc_oliver
06-28-2005, 02:41
Ang ma-mahal ng mga baril nyo! ;f;f

Eye Cutter
06-28-2005, 03:47
hehehe! lahat naman ng mga projects ko takes a long, long time to complete!

mikol
06-28-2005, 03:50
Originally posted by mc_oliver
Ang ma-mahal ng mga baril nyo! ;f;f

bosing mc_o mukhang may idea kana naman para maka mura a! sama mo naman ako dyan.;f

jojo_G19
06-28-2005, 07:05
inabot na tayo nang pagmahal nang parts, but we'll have to start somewhere, mahal na nga lang ngaun but i think mamahal pa yan, pahina na kasi ang philippine peso gawa nang mga di kanainais na pangyayari...

so atleast 15-90k na sa major parts plang:

STI frame = 50k
Schuemann Barrel = 20k
STI Slide = 20k
wala pa dun ung ...
Gunsmitting =
Memory Grip =
Sights =
Reverse Plug =
Extractor =
Ejector =
Disconnector =
Spring Set =
Firing Pin =
Etc.. =
Mags =
New CR Speed Holster = ;f

DOC;
kasama na ba sa reciever package ang mag release and Ejector?



tnx
jojo

Eye Cutter
06-28-2005, 07:19
i don't know sa sti. yung sps frame ko mag release and trigger lang kasama. wala na rin yung free 1 magazine. si batangueno nakabili pa ng meron 1 mag free yata last July gunshow at a nice price. 17k lang yata niya nakuha

jojo_G19
06-28-2005, 07:48
jackpot naman c batangeno 17k lang.

cno ba pinakamura na nagbebenta STI parts? TrueWeight lang ba?? or sa TrueWeight ka lang nakakasiguro sa totoo???

jojo

batangueno
06-28-2005, 09:07
Yes, 17K lang kasama isang magazine. ;f

Alam mo saan mura parts... sa states. ;f

i_am_infinity
06-28-2005, 09:22
Doc is right, it takes so long to build one. my STI is going 11months still at the smith waiting for its turn to be built. STI grips can be reduced also, but i know an option kaya lang late this year pa. if u guys know about Jim shanahan na gumagawa ng colored grips ng STI he does the contouring and reducing and undercut. so hopefully matuloy ang distributorship nya dito. i have one of his grips ganda hawakan parang single stack.

ung modification to accept para mags ung mismong frame ang tatabasan and that would make the metal part of the lower receiver to be really thin...not to mention prone to cracking tama si jason si voight nga diba??? eh si jason nga pinapanis mga naka Para!! hehehe ;z ;g

batangueno
06-28-2005, 09:29
I almost sent my grip to Jim Shanahan before, kaya lang nagbago isip ko. Yung undercut kaya na rin gawin dito, JuDGe had his done in PB. I agree that it's not worth to reduce the inside of the frame just to fit the Para mags.

Kaya gigil talunin ni Jason si Tolits naka-Para kasi...hehe ;f

i_am_infinity
06-28-2005, 09:35
by the way this is the pic of my grip.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/i_am_infinity/MyGrip.jpg~`c

batangueno
06-28-2005, 09:49
Ganda, nainggit tuloy ako, mapag-isipan nga ulit. ;f

i_am_infinity
06-28-2005, 09:56
feels great to hold it...ang nipis nya parang single stack na lang!! i love it!!!! u won't regret it!!

Eye Cutter
06-28-2005, 16:18
kasya ba sti grip sa sps frame?

JuDGe
06-28-2005, 17:13
hehehe.... doc, mukhang maganda yang pinag-iisipan mo ah! ;f

i_am_infinity
06-28-2005, 17:57
i think so pero hindi ako sure alam ko medyo may sabit pag dating na sa sps mag...better to ask a smith. thanks

mc_oliver
06-28-2005, 18:51
Originally posted by batangueno
Yung undercut kaya na rin gawin dito,
Eh plastic lang yan. Akin na i-undercut ko. ;f

i_am_infinity
06-28-2005, 19:57
..and so i heard!!! :);g

jojo_G19
06-28-2005, 21:27
ganda nung Grip..inggit ako. ill definitely go for STI reciever...;f

jojo

i_am_infinity
06-28-2005, 23:18
perfect choice!!! GoodLuck on ur project

Eye Cutter
06-28-2005, 23:20
Originally posted by JuDGe
hehehe.... doc, mukhang maganda yang pinag-iisipan mo ah! ;f

hehehe! wag na, pareho lang yan sa sps grip natin!

Eye Cutter
06-28-2005, 23:43
eto na sps open pistol ko. marami pa rin kulang na parts. but i'm slowly getting there!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/eyecutter/SPS-Open.jpg

Eye Cutter
06-28-2005, 23:56
madami na akong nakitang sps and sti polymer grips na ayaw mag drop yung magazine kasi sobrang nipis na ng plastic, napipiga mo na kahit loose grip.

batangueno
06-29-2005, 00:36
Malapit na rin pala mabuo open gun mo Doc.

May STI framed open gun din ako nakita sa First Option, depende yata sa weather kung babagsak yung magazine o hinde. ;f

i_am_infinity
06-29-2005, 04:10
doc ano ung mag catch button sa sps mo? wat do u think of the integral magwell ng sps? thanks

Eye Cutter
06-29-2005, 04:45
http://egw-guns.com/catalog/images/magPaddle.jpg

that's an egw mini paddle.

problema nga yata ang sps integral mag funnel. pag nabugbog plastic, obliged ka to replace the whole grip! sila judge and the other cppsa shooters kaya?

judge, kumusta magwell mo? wala pa masyadong tama?

i_am_infinity
06-29-2005, 04:48
did u order the button? i saw in some forum na ung ibang naka sps tinabas ung integral magwell tapos nag lagay ng ibang magwell. would that be possible?

Eye Cutter
06-29-2005, 04:52
yup, nagpabili ako ng EGW shirt, pinasabay ko na yung paddle, slide stop and a 17lb. mainspring for my sps project

i_am_infinity
06-29-2005, 04:55
i see that u also have the brazos mag catch ok din ba? which would u recomend? hindi naman na pipindot ung release?

Eye Cutter
06-29-2005, 05:35
yung brazos button iba ang thread pitch, ayaw kumasya sa mag release. it only screws in halfway. i also have an extra sti mag paddle but its sharp. sinoli nga ni judge kasi na-a-activate nya, nalalaglagan ng magazines.

i_am_infinity
06-29-2005, 06:12
doc 4sale ba ung STI paddle?

Eye Cutter
06-29-2005, 06:36
sure. i'll bring it during one of the matches for you to take a look at it.

i_am_infinity
06-29-2005, 07:57
Thanks Doc!!!

JuDGe
06-29-2005, 17:18
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
judge, kumusta magwell mo? wala pa masyadong tama?

doc, hindi pa naman bugbog yung integral magwell ng sps frame ko... eh hindi naman din kasi ako mahilig mag praktis ng mag change during my dry fire sessions kaya hayun lagi fumble tuwing match ;f (at tamad din pala ako mag dry fire practice.... hehehe)..... kaya yung match yun na din ang practice - idol kita eh! ;J

tanduay
06-30-2005, 07:05
Nakakaingit mga toys nyo dre, sa akin hanngang ngayon d parin na buo. Pareho ata kami ni infinity. Malapit na matapos ang bagong ko sps kaso may problema dumating sa smith ko.

i_am_infinity
06-30-2005, 08:00
tanduay,


IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE!!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!;a

tanduay
06-30-2005, 08:28
kala ko nga matatapos na. excited pa naman ako. :( atleast nakahawak ka pa ng grip mo ;f

i_am_infinity
06-30-2005, 10:43
Hmm...iba nga lang ang hahawakan ko, ang tagal talaga eh!! Grr!!!!