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bertud ng putik
07-05-2005, 02:07
mine is a norinco 1911A1 enhanced factory special, tanong ko lang kung 16lbs. ba spring nito? what if kung palitan ko balang araw ng 17lbs. or 18lbs.? most of the time im using armscor FMJ 230 grains. so saan ba mag match ang ammo na ginagamit ko? 16,17 or 18lbs.?

Eye Cutter
07-05-2005, 02:23
the higher the spring tension, the greater the perceived and recoil impulse sensation.

if you feel that the recoil is too harsh in your pistol, go with a lighter spring that will not cause frame battering. 16# or 16.5# ang standard sa .45 cal. try mo 15 and 14#

bulm540
07-05-2005, 17:29
Ditto on the lighter springs. I use 14# in my single stack. I am using 225s moly coated.

Dok
07-05-2005, 18:58
Doc EC, how about 9mm 1911's? any idea how much ang recoil spring tension?:cool:

paltic
07-05-2005, 19:09
medyo nahahalata na Old school na talaga ako....ang akala ko ay 18lbs ang isu-suggest ko na reliable/carry load recoil spring for 1911... anybody knows Jim Boland springs?;P

Eye Cutter
07-05-2005, 19:36
i emailed Para regarding the OEM P18-9 LDA recoil spring. they emailed back 12 lbs.

we tried the 10 lb wolff sa 9mm, nag frame-battering na saka nag-di-dip ang muzzle. yung 13 and 14 lb naman, stove-pipe ang basyo

jasonub
07-05-2005, 20:19
when i was using a 45 the best for me on a bull barreled tungsten guide rod, normal dustcover and slide is 15 pounds.

the sight just drops to the notch everytime (then again this is a timing and preference issue)

pf was 178 200 grain lead heads propelled by 4.7 or so grains n310

i_am_infinity
07-05-2005, 20:49
16 variable for me..230GR

mc_oliver
07-05-2005, 21:44
Kahit ano'ng poundage basta reliable yung baril. My old SS had a 14# spring and a thick buff.

silent_bench
07-05-2005, 22:29
i agree with paltic 18 and 18.5 seems to be a reliable spring tension for defense/carry purpose. but of course still each gun/ gun user have its own preferences conclusion its really your decision and observation what tension you should prefer thats the beauty of 1911.

jasonub
07-06-2005, 05:01
also my setup has 3 buffs. wilson blue

isuzu
07-06-2005, 19:20
try going to www.gunsprings.com. That's the Wolff's website. Go to the FAQ and you'll find most of the answers there. I used Wolff 18.5 lbs conventional spring with the firing pin that came with that, coupled with 19 lb mainspring. Had no jams and failure to ignite whatsoever.

Congratulations for getting a Norinco. I was very satisfied with that 1911. I just changed the trigger, hammer and sear, barrel link, did frontstrap checkering, had the barrel throated, beavertail installed, changed the sights to Chip McCormick and everything worked fine. Their barrels are pretty accurate.

As for the gentleman who inquired about Jim Boland springs, I think they are the square springs, circa 70's to 80's. They were good, but my best guess is that Jim Boland doesn't exist anymore.

Vault Keeper
07-06-2005, 19:34
Have several recoil spring with me, stupid me, was not able to label it! Yun halo-halo na sila...how do I measure which spring is the 15? 18?...?^8 ^8 ^8

Eye Cutter
07-06-2005, 23:32
i remember seeing a home made spring tester at the brian enos forums.

somebody care to make one? mc_o?

chowchow
01-18-2007, 12:57
Ang gamit sa customed Colt ser 80 ko ay Wolff 18.5 lbs. So far so good.

Mang Danny
01-18-2007, 14:11
Original specs for 1911 calls for 16 lbs. for recoil spring and 23 lbs. for hammer spring. My range guns have 18# recoil & 19# hammer spring. My serious guns use original specs.

choi_tan2000
01-19-2007, 00:10
nagkamali ako ng bili ng spring sir instead of 12.5 11 ang nakuha ko. cani use it with my 45 std. single stack using a minor load when practicing sirs??? or it should be 13 lbs?

tnx po

jimbullet
01-19-2007, 07:48
Does you 1911 have a comp? If yes, it will work even for major loads

isuzu
01-19-2007, 22:29
Originally posted by paltic
medyo nahahalata na Old school na talaga ako....ang akala ko ay 18lbs ang isu-suggest ko na reliable/carry load recoil spring for 1911... anybody knows Jim Boland springs?;P

Jim Boland springs were unique in the sense that they were square instead of round. I've seen some in the early 80's. The spring was also mentioned in Bill Wilson's book of the 1911 (Red Book). I don't think they still produce them.

I used 18.5 Wolff conventional springs in my Norinco 1911. Mainspring was Wolff 19 lb. reduced power. I increased the recoil spring to compensate for the reduction in the mainspring (the hammer spring/mainspring also aids in recoil dampening during the firing cycle). I was comfortable with it and never encountered any malfunctions whatsoever.

nelany
01-20-2007, 00:16
I use 16.5 lbs variable Wolff for my Police/FE Norinco. The orig is 16 lbs. No hicup for the 16.5 lbs sa far after firing more than 1K.

Punisher_nbi45
01-20-2007, 17:01
Originally posted by Mang Danny
Original specs for 1911 calls for 16 lbs. for recoil spring and 23 lbs. for hammer spring. My range guns have 18# recoil & 19# hammer spring. My serious guns use original specs.

+1 with Mang Danny.

The more you keep your 1911 true to the original specs, the more reliable it should be. This has been true as far as my personal experiences go. The original set-up was designed for standard, full-power FMJ rounds available at the time. If your carry gun is also your range gun and your worried about recoil and such, I would suggest practice, practice, practice. No matter what set-up you decide to go to, practice and training will overcome many of the deficiencies you feel you may have with your equipment. You'd be surprised, you might end up knowing that what works is what you already have set-up.

Although a lot of people have had much success with other set-ups, I would stick with the original configuration, at least until you have had enough trigger time with your pistola and know its quirks inside and out.

Just my two cents worth, YMMV.

jasonub
01-20-2007, 19:00
i have an ismi 15 pound recoil spring. it will last you about forever. hehehe.

kidding aside, i suggest 15 for a 45. TGO suggests a 14.

maskytrading
01-23-2007, 05:43
Originally posted by bertud ng putik
mine is a norinco 1911A1 enhanced factory special, tanong ko lang kung 16lbs. ba spring nito? what if kung palitan ko balang araw ng 17lbs. or 18lbs.? most of the time im using armscor FMJ 230 grains. so saan ba mag match ang ammo na ginagamit ko? 16,17 or 18lbs.?

Sir bertud...try this link regarding 1911 Recoil springs

http://www.gunshopfinder.com/articles/1911recoilspring.html

It helped me understand which spring rating to use in my 1911s