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Dandapani
04-30-2006, 09:06
Originally posted by cmk/mo
i recently bought a G-22 from a dealer in missouri, serial # APGxxxUS 2nd gen.;tupperwear box white label 5 lb. trigger w/ issue night sights, i see by the research that the nearest serial range # for G-22's is the state of missouri purchase, is there any chance my gun is a police issue too(it shows typical holtser wear); any way to check on this? thanks for any input!
You'd have to contact Glock for possible history. G-22s are typically LE issue.
TopGlock dates it 9/93.
I'll list it as:
APG - G-22 - September 1993 - 2nd Gen. - NS
Glocks&Ducs
04-30-2006, 10:12
Originally posted by cmk/mo
i recently bought a G-22 from a dealer in missouri, serial # APGxxxUS 2nd gen.;tupperwear box white label 5 lb. trigger w/ issue night sights, i see by the research that the nearest serial range # for G-22's is the state of missouri purchase, is there any chance my gun is a police issue too(it shows typical holtser wear); any way to check on this? thanks for any input!
Have you thoroughly checked it for LE markings? The other day I was looking at an AUG G17 and I barely caught it's WPD marking. It was on the inside bottom of the magazine well. I have heard of others being marked at the bottom of the trigger guard. I would think most agencies would mark their guns somehow.
Here are two more for the list, an early 2nd Generation Glock 17 and a fairly late 2nd Generation Glock 19:
"HZ " - Glock 17 - November 1989 -- 2nd Generation
"CFT" -- Glock 19 -- May 1997-- 2nd Generation
Both dated by Glock, Inc. Warranty in Smyrna, Ga.:beer:
HWU-G21. Anyone now when this one was born?
Dandapani
05-01-2006, 16:25
Originally posted by luxone
HWU-G21. Anyone now when this one was born?
Why don't you? Look in your paper work. Should be a little brown envelope with some fired cartridges. What's the date on that envelope? Yours should be brand-new.
HWC - G-27 - February 2006
HWN - G-17 - February 2006 - 3rd Gen.
HWR - G-19 - February 2006 - 3rd Gen.
HWT - G-19 - March 2006 - 3rd Gen.
HWY - G-23 - February 2006
HXNxxx | G-29 with rail | Casing envelope dated February 24th, 2006
Sub-Compact Glocks (G-26, -27, -28, -29, -30, & -36) are always Gen 2.5, as they have finger grooves but no rails. There is even a slight variation here, as some of the earliest G-26 & G-27s had smooth fingergrooves, without checkering in-between the grooves...To clarify my above HXNxxx G29 sighting, it's a true third-generation. Finger grooves, rail. Didn't mean to leave "3rd gen" out of the posting; thought the "with rail" would imply it.
So, to make it doubly clear: HXNxxx, G29, 3rd generation (rail, finger grooves), casings dated 24 February 2006. :)
graveman
05-03-2006, 00:31
Picked one up used/LNIB this morning; it's already in the database but I'll give it a second vote :supergrin:
FRR - G19 - August 2003 - 3rd Gen, LCI, no "US" suffix
graveman
05-03-2006, 00:42
Originally posted by Masque
To clarify my above HXNxxx G29 sighting, it's a true third-generation. Finger grooves, rail. Didn't mean to leave "3rd gen" out of the posting; thought the "with rail" would imply it.
So, to make it doubly clear: HXNxxx, G29, 3rd generation (rail, finger grooves), casings dated 24 February 2006. :)
He's not BS-ing. The 2006 product catalog does show both a G29 and a G30 with rails. The "true" subs G26, G27, G33 and G39, as well as the G36, are not pictured with rails. I have seen a G30 with rails at a local shop.
Also in the back of the Glock 2006 Annual, the G29 and G30 have rails.
Dandapani
05-03-2006, 06:22
Originally posted by graveman
He's not BS-ing. The 2006 product catalog does show both a G29 and a G30 with rails. The "true" subs G26, G27, G33 and G39, as well as the G36, are not pictured with rails. I have seen a G30 with rails at a local shop.
Also in the back of the Glock 2006 Annual, the G29 and G30 have rails.
Thanks. G30's have been being listed with rails for awhile (and discussed in GG). I was happy to see the G29's coming with rails.
And I agree with your assessment about "true" sub-guns. The G30 and G29 are a different breed of sub-compacts, being wider. I'm glad the "true" subs don't have rails. Just more plastic to conceal. :)
Noticed a second ago, "DSP" still shows the whole serial number..
Dandapani
05-03-2006, 14:25
Originally posted by GSD17
Noticed a second ago, "DSP" still shows the whole serial number..
Fixed.
Guess they were proud of it! :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
Glocks&Ducs
05-03-2006, 18:09
Originally posted by Masque
To clarify my above HXNxxx G29 sighting, it's a true third-generation. Finger grooves, rail. Didn't mean to leave "3rd gen" out of the posting; thought the "with rail" would imply it.
So, to make it doubly clear: HXNxxx, G29, 3rd generation (rail, finger grooves), casings dated 24 February 2006. :)
Well, if you want to get technical it's a 3.5. The first sub-compacts were 2.5 as they had no rails but finger grooves, albeit smooth ones. The gen3 sub-compacts had no rail with checkered finger grooves, and this is where the G30/G29 started life, at Gen3. Then they added the rail to the G30/G29, making them 3.5's, in my opinion.
First Generation G17 CM*** NPV and Austria stamped
date code september 1987 (ITY)
Dandapani
05-04-2006, 07:05
Originally posted by Gokyo
First Generation G17 CM*** NPV and Austria stamped
date code september 1987 (ITY)
TG dates it as October 1987. I recorded it as:
CM - G-17 - October 1987 - NPV and Austria stamped date code September 1987 (ITY)
I have some info for ya.
The born date for the EXF code. I bought my G21 used about 3 years ago, but it came with everything including the dated, test fired brass.
They are dated 8/12/02
Poppa Bear
05-05-2006, 19:00
HUZxxx G-17 3rd Generation Born on Feb 03 2006 from Glock envelope.
2edgesword
05-05-2006, 22:02
HGV G-36 DOB unknown Generation 2.5
Dandapani
05-06-2006, 06:09
Originally posted by 2edgesword
HGV G-36 DOB unknown Generation 2.5
HGU - G-17 - August 2005
HGV - G-36 - Unknown - 2.5 Gen.
HGW - G-19 - June 2005
Also, you might want to removed the numeric portion of your serial number above.
NewGlock19Owner
05-06-2006, 06:53
I just bought my first Glock it is a Glock 19. The serial number is BDM. I can't find whrn it was made. Can anyone help???
Thanks
Andy
Call Glock at 770-432-1202, also you need to edit out the last three digits in your serial number.
Dandapani
05-06-2006, 08:15
Originally posted by NewGlock19Owner
I just bought my first Glock it is a Glock 19. The serial number is BDMxxx. I can't find whrn it was made. Can anyone help???
Thanks
Andy
TopGlock dates it: 01/1995
I recorded it as:
BDM - G-19 - January 1995
NewGlock19Owner
05-06-2006, 08:35
Thank you for the quick reply.
tea kettle
05-06-2006, 12:44
G22
1ERX***
In page one it says the ERX was effected by the frame recall. Why does this have a 1 preceding the ERX? Does anyone know the born on date?
Thanks.
TK
Glocks&Ducs
05-06-2006, 14:28
Originally posted by tea kettle
G22
1ERX***
In page one it says the ERX was effected by the frame recall. Why does this have a 1 preceding the ERX? Does anyone know the born on date?
Thanks.
TK
The 1 means the frame was already replaced due to the recall.
G23 with serial HZY and (aluminium) casing date of Apr10/2006.
G23C - 2nd Gen - CGY prefix - dated by TopGlock as 06/1997
Dandapani
05-06-2006, 16:26
Originally posted by Njanear
G23C - 2nd Gen - CGY prefix - dated by TopGlock as 06/1997
TG doesn't date the "C" models. 6/1997 is for a "G23" non-"C" model with serial prefix CGY. I'll record it, but not post your date.
tea kettle
05-06-2006, 17:08
Originally posted by Glocks&Ducs
The 1 means the frame was already replaced due to the recall.
Does this mean after it was purchased it was returned for a frame replacement or it was sold as a 1ERX***?
Do you know approx. born on date?
Thanks
TK
Dandapani
05-06-2006, 17:25
Originally posted by tea kettle
Does this mean after it was purchased it was returned for a frame replacement or it was sold as a 1ERX***?
Do you know approx. born on date?
Thanks
TK
You would have to call Glock to verify what happened when on the replacement.
From the database:ERX - G-22 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - Not affected by Frame Recall
ERZ - G-22 - February 2002 - 3rd Gen. - Frame Recall
I would say February 2002.
EmTFoRLiFe 2004
05-07-2006, 02:54
GFW*** G17 07/12/2004
GUV*** G30 03/11/2005
I bought a used G19 with no box or anything. It's a 3rd Gen with finger grooves and accessory rail. Serial number: FAY***US
Topglock's dating tool only has the option to select G19 with serial number range "FA" and puts the date at 5/1989 which can't be right. Anyone have a date for this?
Dandapani
05-07-2006, 06:38
Originally posted by tantrix
I bought a used G19 with no box or anything. It's a 3rd Gen with finger grooves and accessory rail. Serial number: FAY***US
Topglock's dating tool only has the option to select G19 with serial number range "FA" and puts the date at 5/1989 which can't be right. Anyone have a date for this?
As stated in the first post on this thread, TG (and others) only date through DXZ.
The list has an FAY, but unknown:
FAX - G-19 - September 2002 - 3rd Gen.
FAY - G-19 - Unknown - 3rd Gen.
FAZ - G-21 - October 2002 - 3rd Gen.
That puts yours in the Sept/Oct 2002 range.
You'd have to call Glock to get it more official.
tea kettle
05-07-2006, 07:29
Originally posted by dmobrien2001
You would have to call Glock to verify what happened when on the replacement.
From the database:
I would say February 2002.
quote:
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ERX - G-22 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - Not affected by Frame Recall
ERZ - G-22 - February 2002 - 3rd Gen. - Frame Recall
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So the database says the ERX was not affected by the frame recall then it says that frame recalls will have a 1 preceding the first three letters of the serial number, which the gun I am referring to does. Now I am confused. Maybe it was changed in the factory before being sold?
From the original title in this thread -
It appears that only serial numbers starting with "E", "GSSF", or "USA" (American Hero’s Commemoratives) are affected. In general, the chronological serial number set that has the prefix letters of "EKA" through "EVR" inclusive appear to be the affected Glocks, regardless of caliber.
Just call Glock man, they will tell you exactly what happened I am sure.
Dandapani
05-07-2006, 08:20
Originally posted by tea kettle
So the database says the ERX was not affected by the frame recall then it says that frame recalls will have a 1 preceding the first three letters of the serial number, which the gun I am referring to does. Now I am confused. Maybe it was changed in the factory before being sold?
Follow GSD's advice above. A lot of the data collected in the E-range was before my time so I can't say for sure where it came from.
graveman
05-07-2006, 21:00
Originally posted by tea kettle
So the database says the ERX was not affected by the frame recall then it says that frame recalls will have a 1 preceding the first three letters of the serial number, which the gun I am referring to does. Now I am confused. Maybe it was changed in the factory before being sold?
If the serial on the slide is "ERX000" and the serial on the frame is
"1ERX000" then you have a pistol that was affected by recall, and the frame has already been replaced by Glock. A telephone call to Glock should answer all your q's.
random42
05-07-2006, 21:42
G17 HUZ xxx Feb 03/2006
nightstorm
05-08-2006, 07:32
G23
HYU
March 2006
tea kettle
05-08-2006, 20:04
Originally posted by graveman
If the serial on the slide is "ERX000" and the serial on the frame is
"1ERX000" then you have a pistol that was affected by recall, and the frame has already been replaced by Glock. A telephone call to Glock should answer all your q's.
I called Glock today and indeed the frame was replaced. It was replaced in 2003. A dealer sent it back before it was ever sold. It was born in 2002. So, page one is incorrect - the ERX was effected by the frame recall.
Dandapani
05-09-2006, 05:40
Originally posted by tea kettle
So, page one is incorrect - the ERX was effected by the frame recall.
Fixed, thanks to your efforts! :patriot: :thumbsup: :beer:
JustinC25
05-09-2006, 19:56
My Dad's G-17 is MS born April 1990. It is elegible for the firing pin upgrade.
My G-19 is HVC born 12/24/05 according to GLOCK.
My G-26 is HTY born 12/05 is already listed.
coldcaffeine
05-10-2006, 22:51
DEZ - G-23 - Unknown - 3rd Gen.
Dandapani
05-11-2006, 06:37
Originally posted by coldcaffeine
DEZ - G-23 - Unknown - 3rd Gen.
According to TG:
DEZ - G-23 - July 1999 - 3rd Gen.
Just picked up a G19 Ser# HVD
3rd gen has a "1" on the barrel after the Glock logo but before the the pentagon
Dandapani
05-11-2006, 15:39
Originally posted by bo99
Just picked up a G19 Ser# HVD
3rd gen has a "1" on the barrel after the Glock logo but before the the pentagon
Did you buy it new?
Did your dealer happen to tell you the date on the cartridge collection envelope (little brown envelope) before he snatched it away for ballistic fingerprinting?
Can you call him and ask before he sends it off?
Originally posted by dmobrien2001
Did you buy it new?
Did your dealer happen to tell you the date on the cartridge collection envelope (little brown envelope) before he snatched it away for ballistic fingerprinting?
Can you call him and ask before he sends it off?
Picked it up used.
the date on the cartidge evnvelope
says Jan25/2006
I still have it to
also picking up a G35 .40
Ser# DPM
let me know
i can email pics
Dandapani
05-11-2006, 16:48
Originally posted by bo99
also picking up a G35 .40
Ser# DPM
let me know
i can email pics
according to TG:
DPM - G-35 - January 2000
jonathon
05-12-2006, 15:17
Heres a new one for you!
Glock 21, Serial Number AAZ, born on May 1992.
My two babies are only 8 months apart :banana:
SlayerGGX
05-13-2006, 23:38
G35 HXN (I believe this was listed as G29 in your list...) Mar 2006
jonathon
05-14-2006, 17:41
Originally posted by jonathon
Heres a new one for you!
Glock 21, Serial Number AAZ, born on May 1992.
My two babies are only 8 months apart :banana:
I should have added, this G21 came stock with night sights(Box says night sights on it). Was a LEO gun.
nickE10mm
05-15-2006, 13:18
Does anyone know on or around what date of serial number did the Glock 29's start using the new LCI extractors and new 8196-2 ejector/housings?
Thanks for your help!
Dandapani
05-15-2006, 14:55
Originally posted by Cade
Dept. issue G22 FYM ###
Thanks, I recorded it. Looks like it has company in the Jan/Feb 2004 timeframe.
FYL - G-22 - January 2004
FYM - G-22 - Unknown - - Dept. issue
FZP - G-17 - 2004 - 3rd Gen. - LCI
FZR - G-19 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - LCI Extractor
FZV - G-22 - February 2004 - 3rd Gen.
HKC - G-19 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - Mariner Series - Acquired May 2006 - Philippines
pistolman1974
05-16-2006, 17:35
hkk-g19-july 2005
KCLXXX - G-27 - 5/4/06 - Blue Tag LEO
Less than two weeks old! Picked it up today!
hkspwrsche
05-16-2006, 21:43
My 23C from few years ago.. I want to say 6 or 7yrs and the serial number is CGZxxxUS. Didnt see it on the serial no# page..??? Got it from a dealer (patriot services)new in box.
davis513
05-16-2006, 23:43
Glock G27
Gen. 2.5
Serial # GDFXXX
With Trijicon Night Sights
Purchased NIB on 4-19-2004 from Arrington Police Distributors, Charlotte, NC
No fired shell casing or envelope in box.
davis513
AmnChode
05-17-2006, 01:42
Didn't see this in the list, so I figured I'd post it...
Model: Glock 17 (3rd Gen)
Serial#: HZKxxx
Born-on date: 3 Apr 2006
Purchased 15 May 2006
KCL### - blue tag LEO purchase. Brought home 05/15/06, Born on date 05/04/06 (11 days old!). Two fired cases in envelope.
Dandapani
05-17-2006, 07:21
Originally posted by Jimbo45
KCL### - blue tag LEO purchase. Brought home 05/15/06, Born on date 05/04/06 (11 days old!). Two fired cases in envelope.
What model is this?
I would guess G27 because it is the exact code and date as mine... but I could be wrong.... kinda cool we got two from the same day.
Originally posted by dmobrien2001
What model is this?
Oops, yes, it is a G27.
just picked up my g-27 od fs today, serial # HXM198. brown casing bag is dated 04-20-06
FYH*** - G22
Purchase date: Jan 2004
No fired casing included
LEO Blue tag w/ 3 LEO/GOV only hicap mags
LCI
Trijicon Night Sights
Gen 3 frame
Glocks&Ducs
05-19-2006, 17:49
I found me a 2nd generation G-19 today. This thing is like new. I swear there can't have been more than 50 rounds put through this thing, that is how great it looks. Nothing special about it that I can see, except it has true pre-ban 15 round mags and the tupperware box has more holding spots inside than my newer tupperware boxes. $349.99 out the door it set me back. I am a happy camper right now, and it's not even on the list yet. According to the surrounding numbers and the Ptooma guide, it hails from Oct 93.
APU - G-19 - October 1993- 2nd generation
The serial number is also somewhat significant because one of the engines I worked on in the Marine Corps are of the APU type. Auxiliary Power Unit. Just a little bit of trivia for you Glock&Ducs fans out there.:clown:
Another thing I just noticed. The magazine loader is completely slick with only a small Glock symbol at the top, unlike the newer ones that are textured on the sides and have the Glock symbol on the side along with a part number.
Just got a look at my friend's gun today.
YZ*** - G-22 - Jan 1992 - 2nd gen
Oldie!
Originally posted by SlayerGGX
G35 HXN (I believe this was listed as G29 in your list...) Mar 2006 Listed quite accurately as a G29, in fact. :)
In cases like this, should we provide the first digit of the numeric portion for completeness?
Dandapani
05-21-2006, 15:05
Originally posted by Masque
Listed quite accurately as a G29, in fact. :)
In cases like this, should we provide the first digit of the numeric portion for completeness?
No. Glock can make several models under the same alpha prefix. I'll just list them in model order.
No harm, no foul :cool:
I screwed up... after looking at my number again it should be as follows:
FXZ*** - G30 - March 2004
I had it in May 04 on the list.
ggevans_2
05-22-2006, 23:20
First post. Please bear with me.
I have a G23 Ser. # ECR527US
Out of curiosity, I attempted to locate the date of manufacture. However, I have been unable to do so. Could someone out there provide some help.
Thanks
Dandapani
05-23-2006, 04:48
Originally posted by AJE
I screwed up... after looking at my number again it should be as follows:
FXZ*** - G30 - March 2004
I had it in May 04 on the list.
Fixed. Thanks!
Dandapani
05-23-2006, 04:51
Originally posted by ggevans_2
First post. Please bear with me.
I have a G23 Ser. # ECRxxxUS
Out of curiosity, I attempted to locate the date of manufacture. However, I have been unable to do so. Could someone out there provide some help.
In my best opinion from the data in the database, I would say yours was made March 2001. Call Glock to find out for sure.
ECA - G-31 - May 2001 - 3rd Gen. - No Frame Recall
ECB - G-20 - Unknown - 3rd Gen.
ECG - G-19 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - No Frame Recall
ECH - G-20C / G-29/ G-32C - March/April 2001 - 3rd Gen. - Not affected by Frame Recall
ECK - G-21 - March 2001
ECS - G-23 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - No Frame Recall
ECT - G-23C / G-34 - June 2001 - 3rd Gen. - No Frame Recall
ECV - G-27 - March 2001 - 2.5 Gen.
Glocks&Ducs
05-23-2006, 06:20
Originally posted by dmobrien2001
In my best opinion from the data in the database, I would say yours was made March 2001. Call Glock to find out for sure.
I don't know if you guys have seen the topglock dating system in it's latest form. When I used it before, I had to send them an e-mail and they returned it with my date for the serial number. Now, you can look up your number yourself on their system. They don't have an ECR but they do have an ECP, and it shows a date of 05/1993. Sooo...???
Dandapani
05-23-2006, 07:04
Originally posted by Glocks&Ducs
I don't know if you guys have seen the topglock dating system in it's latest form. When I used it before, I had to send them an e-mail and they returned it with my date for the serial number. Now, you can look up your number yourself on their system. They don't have an ECR but they do have an ECP, and it shows a date of 05/1993. Sooo...???
Doesn't sound right.
May 1993 is in this range:
AKX - G-17 - May 1993 - 2nd Gen. - polygon stamped next to glock logo on barrel
ALC - G-20 - May 1993 - 2nd Gen.
ALD - G-21 - May 1993 - 2nd Gen. - Begin 15o Extractor cut this model
Looks like ECP is a quirk in their prefix pattern. There are others, EMM. Generally, they date 3 alpha digits reliably through DXY.
At one point TG contacted me to feed them the dates from our GSN database. I sent them a trial set of data and never heard back from them.
ggevans_2
05-23-2006, 16:29
Thanks for your help guys! I found the 1993 entry. The pistol is definately a third generation. And I purchased it within the last several years. My main concern was the frame recall issue. I didn't have resources to provide me with a serial range and was curious. I guess I need to contact Glock. Thanks again for your help!
RSXTREME
05-24-2006, 12:58
g26 serial# KAA April 06
Navy HMC
05-24-2006, 22:00
KAH-XXX May, 6, 2006 Glock 19 3rd Gen (of course)
HRC, April 25, 2006, G17, 3rd gen.
HGU686, G17, born on date: 08/01/2005
bunch_G17
05-27-2006, 14:26
KBY*** May 18, 2006
G22
9 days old!!!
Originally posted by bunch_G17
KBY*** May 18, 2006
G22
9 days old!!!
Hmm my KCLxxx G27 was from May 4th, 2006.
I kind of assumed they would be in order... ex KCL after KBYxxx.
dmobrien??
Dandapani
05-28-2006, 15:42
Originally posted by AJE
Hmm my KCLxxx G27 was from May 4th, 2006.
I kind of assumed they would be in order... ex KCL after KBYxxx.
dmobrien??
My guess is that there's a stack of inventory laying around, and they get pulled as needed. The order isn't maintained whatever the process they use. Some sequences are months out of date, especially long guns and compensated guns.
BustedFlush
05-29-2006, 19:12
G34 GDK May2004
3rd gen, New style box, AS, LCI
BCP - G19 - 11/1994 - 2nd Generation
Originally posted by dmobrien2001
My guess is that there's a stack of inventory laying around, and they get pulled as needed. The order isn't maintained whatever the process they use. Some sequences are months out of date, especially long guns and compensated guns.
Didn't think of that... maybe they are made in order.. ACE, ACF, ACG, etc but they aren't test fired until they are sent out.
Glocks&Ducs
05-31-2006, 19:59
HXH - G36 - May 2006
The thing I found odd about this one, is that even though it was just test fired on the 15th of May, it was built with the old style serial number plate.
Dandapani
06-01-2006, 04:52
Originally posted by Glocks&Ducs
HXH - G36 - May 2006
The thing I found odd about this one, is that even though it was just test fired on the 15th of May, it was built with the old style serial number plate.
Nice observation, I've noted it.
I've wondered if the frame serial number plate can be attached after the frame is made -OR- whether the serial number can be engraved after the frame is made?
Perhaps "blank" serialized frames are stacked in the USA waiting for the serialized slide and barrel from Austria.
Heres my newest addition for you dm...
HYS - G22 - 03/23/06 Envelope date.
nugentjeep45
06-03-2006, 13:48
Bought 2 new glocks yesterday,#1-g17 HRC 6-2-06 / #2-g17 HRC 6-2-06 ; consecutive serial #'s. Frames only have Smyrna,GA. no made in Austria.
Dandapani
06-03-2006, 14:04
Originally posted by nugentjeep45
Bought 2 new glocks yesterday,#1-g17 HRC 6-2-06 / #2-g17 HRC 6-2-06 ; consecutive serial #'s. Frames only have Smyrna,GA. no made in Austria.
Would it be possible for you to post a pix of the right hand side of the grip area showing this? I think this is a first! There was one other HRC G-17 posted in the GSN list, but no mentioned of the lack of "made in Austria".
nugentjeep45
06-03-2006, 15:28
I don't have my digital camera at home right now, but someone posted a pic of Ducati's g17 HRC on another thread (..if TOTALLY made in GA) in general glocking. Mine looks identical to his.
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8677/1000593small4jh.jpg
That isnt my gun, it is another members gun, but it is a HRC G17. There doesnt seem to be a clear pattern of that sized frame being non-Austrian yet, because I bought a HYS G22 just the other day, and it is an Austrian frame.
Dandapani
06-03-2006, 20:53
nugentjeep45 & GSD17, thanks. I missed the other post about Ducati's G17.
GSD', is there a clear pattern of Glock doing anything? :rollsmiley:
I'll fall back to my standard "stockpile" answer. :cool:
Yeah, I figure the same thing, thats why some of the casing fire dates are so far out of order.
A_Fletcher
06-04-2006, 07:51
From the little casing package that came with a G22: KCAxxx May 2006
Dandapani
06-04-2006, 08:33
Originally posted by A_Fletcher
From the little casing package that came with a G22: KCAxxx May 2006
Please check right hand side, upper grip.
Is it marked "Made In Austria" or just "Glock Inc, ...." (see picture above).
A_Fletcher
06-04-2006, 10:29
It says "Made In Austria" on the first line, and then under that it says "GLOCK INC. Smyrna, GA"
Dandapani
06-04-2006, 14:02
Originally posted by A_Fletcher
It says "Made In Austria" on the first line, and then under that it says "GLOCK INC. Smyrna, GA"
Thanks for confirmation.
It's a mystery why some of the "H" frames are USA made and the "K" frames aren't...
glock 35 serial # KCS0XX date on envelope May 4, 2006.
OK, Ok, here's what I got
G 19, 1st generation, series NB XXX, Austrian markings
Glocks&Ducs
06-04-2006, 20:10
Originally posted by palmer
OK, Ok, here's what I got
G 19, 1st generation, series NB XXX, Austrian markings
Every one of us seriously doubts you have a first generation G19.
Dandapani
06-04-2006, 20:52
Originally posted by Glocks&Ducs
Every one of us seriously doubts you have a first generation G19.
:laughabove: :rollsmiley: :laughabove:
Yup. Your NB is a Gen 2. Check out the pictures at the top of this thread.
Series: HNX
Model : G-29
DOB : 3/24/2006
Gen : 3rd
Note : 3rd Gen Frame with rail mount
jammer43950
06-05-2006, 11:59
EHH is already posted, but without date. Per my conversation with Glock:
EHH - G-23 - August 2001 - 3rd Gen. - Not affected by Frame Recall
DPC - G-27 - March 2000 - 3rd Gen.
Dandapani
06-05-2006, 14:09
Originally posted by jammer43950
EHH is already posted, but without date. Per my conversation with Glock:
EHH - G-23 - August 2001 - 3rd Gen. - Not affected by Frame Recall
Always glad to improve the quality of the data in the existing database!!! :beer: :beer: :beer:
Edit to add: and a big thanks for representing your update in exactly the required fashion. Makes my cut/paste task very easy. An extra :beer: for you!
smkymtnjoe
06-05-2006, 20:15
KCG - G-23 - May 2006 - 3rd Gen.
Serial: KCG
Model : G-23
DOB : 5/18/2006
Gen : 3rd
Dandapani
06-05-2006, 21:00
Originally posted by smkymtnjoe
KCG - G-23 - May 2006 - 3rd Gen.
Another perfect entry! :number1:
AP-G17-unknown(bill of sale dated September,1986) 1st gen
Kris
Dandapani
06-06-2006, 19:23
Originally posted by glock22fan1
AP-G17-unknown(bill of sale dated September,1986) 1st gen
From our GSN data:
AP - G-17 - March 1986 - 1st Gen. - has Austrian markings, LTH (2/86)
ETS - G-34 - March 2002 - 3:d Gen. - has Austrian markings
adamgh81
06-07-2006, 20:41
HYH - G-19 - March 2006 - 3rd Gen.
1st Glock purchase, today.
Dandapani
06-08-2006, 04:57
Thanks for making both entries easy to apply! :beer:
HXB-G23-Mar01/2006-3rd Gen.
StarQuester
06-10-2006, 04:00
KBT-G19-May19/2006-3rd Gen.
glockk9mm
06-11-2006, 01:19
EUM? i have that serial #
Dandapani
06-11-2006, 06:34
Originally posted by glockk9mm
EUM? i have that serial #
Call Glock. 1-866-225-4098
http://www.gssfonline.com/hot_topics/framerails.htm
Long time lurker, 1st time poster.
G17
HKE326
Made in Austria
Dandapani
06-11-2006, 13:09
Originally posted by Arps
Long time lurker, 1st time poster.
G17
HKE326
Made in Austria
Little brown envelope, two cartridges in it, date on envelope?
Dandapani
06-11-2006, 19:32
Originally posted by Arps
08/16/2005
duly noted in database:
HKD - G-33 - August 2005
HKE - G-17 - August 2005
HKF - G-17 - August 2005
acpk9eod
06-12-2006, 15:32
G-30 with envelope marked 01/06. HWDXXX
Sturmgewehr44
06-13-2006, 15:25
I just bought a G20 with a light-rail on it. I know NOTHING about Glocks, except that this is my first and I love it.
Is this considered a 3rd generation?
Could someone please tell me when it was made??? The serial number starts with "KBW..."
Thank you very much.
Dandapani
06-13-2006, 16:14
Originally posted by Sturmgewehr44
I just bought a G20 with a light-rail on it. I know NOTHING about Glocks, except that this is my first and I love it.
Is this considered a 3rd generation?
Could someone please tell me when it was made??? The serial number starts with "KBW..."
Thank you very much.
This is BRAND NEW (i.e., the latest serial number prefix).
3rd gen.
If you're in the USA, what state are you in? Most include and do not require the dealer to pull, the little brown envelope in your paperwork that contains two fired cartridge casings. What's the date on that envelope?
Otherwise, you have to call Glock, Austria(?) to find out exactly when it was made.
Sturmgewehr44
06-13-2006, 18:30
Im in California and I have to wait the 10day waiting period in CA. So, I don't have the envelope with me for another 10 days. The gun is 100% paid for, this state just has a communist 10 day waiting period, even for cops!
I just know what the serial number is....
As soon as I get the envelope, I'll post it here. I get to pick it up on June 23rd.
Thanks.
Dandapani
06-13-2006, 20:29
Originally posted by Sturmgewehr44
Im in California and I have to wait the 10day waiting period in CA. So, I don't have the envelope with me for another 10 days. The gun is 100% paid for, this state just has a communist 10 day waiting period, even for cops!
I just know what the serial number is....
As soon as I get the envelope, I'll post it here. I get to pick it up on June 23rd.
You should be able to call your dealer and have them read you the date before the 10 day period. Congrats on the new gun!
Help!! need date of manufacture for my babies
G19 CYY xxx 3rd gen
G20 CUC xxx 3rd gen
G26 CYE xxx 3rd gen
All of them are NOT for the American Market.
Thanks!!!!
Dandapani
06-15-2006, 11:18
Originally posted by arqdos
Help!! need date of manufacture for my babies
G19 CYY xxx 3rd gen
G20 CUC xxx 3rd gen
G26 CYE xxx 3rd gen
All of them are NOT for the American Market.
Thanks!!!!
CYE/CYY Late/Early 1998/1999 timeframe.
CYC - G-30 - November 1998 - 3rd Gen.
CYF - G-34 - Unknown - - NPV VDT barrel marks, no GA stamp, but GLOCK Ges.m.b.H marked
CYG - G-19 - January 1999 - 3rd Gen.
CYN - G-23C - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - 346 25 674 stamped very small inside of slide
CYZ - G-35 - February 1999 - 3rd Gen.
CUC June/July 1998 timeframe.
And CTS - G-23 - June 1998 - 3rd Gen.
CUL – G-17 – July 1998 – 3rd Gen. – bought two, one fixed sights, other Trijicon NS
CUM - G-19 - July 1998 - 3rd Gen.
KBZ - G-22 - May 2006 - Blue Tag LEO, made in Austria
BOD is May 17, one day before the KBY :headscratch:
That's why I don't trust the dates. Years, but not months anyway. Just because there is a date on the envelope doesnt mean that that is when it was manufactured. Simply when it was test fired. Say they make 1000 G17s and 1000 G20s.. the G17s in Feb, the G20s in Jan... The G17s may have an earlier date than the G20s simply because more are ordered and fired. This is my theory anyway, there are just way to many disputes with the dates for me... some give envelope dates, some give purchase dates, some give Glock's manufacture date.... But that's just me, not my list... this list is still a great source of information! I just don't trust the months is all. I actually run a similar list (borrowed the idea from dm) over at glockers.com, and I gave up trying to get months. I really only concern myself with the first 3, model, year produced, and any recalls or neat info. My hat is off to everyone involved in this project and I encourage everyone to list their pistols. I have my 5 in here :D Sorry for the one long retarted paragraph :X
crankbait11
06-16-2006, 15:01
FSCxxxx -g26 new style box-loaded indicator extractor- 3 pin frame- Dated 9/16/03
Glocks&Ducs
06-16-2006, 16:23
Originally posted by GSD17
That's why I don't trust the dates. Years, but not months anyway. Just because there is a date on the envelope doesnt mean that that is when it was manufactured. Simply when it was test fired. Say they make 1000 G17s and 1000 G20s.. the G17s in Feb, the G20s in Jan... The G17s may have an earlier date than the G20s simply because more are ordered and fired. This is my theory anyway, there are just way to many disputes with the dates for me... some give envelope dates, some give purchase dates, some give Glock's manufacture date.... But that's just me, not my list... this list is still a great source of information! I just don't trust the months is all. I actually run a similar list (borrowed the idea from dm) over at glockers.com, and I gave up trying to get months. I really only concern myself with the first 3, model, year produced, and any recalls or neat info. My hat is off to everyone involved in this project and I encourage everyone to list their pistols. I have my 5 in here :D Sorry for the one long retarted paragraph :X
We all already know that. At the beginning of this thread, it was agreed upon that the envelope would be used as the "born on date". The test firing for the most part is the "born on date". It's not the day of manufacture. I don't think even Glock can give you that, as they don't bother to keep track. That is why Glock can't give you a manufacture or born on date, if the gun was bought outside of the US. We are the only ones that do the test fire/case collection envelopes.
sundancekid
06-17-2006, 09:55
what's the born date of my G19 please,
HWG - G-19 3rd Gen made in Austria
bought in the Philippines May 26, 2006
thanks.
what is the born date of my glock
G17 serial:DXT***US 3rd gen
thanx!
Can't locate here or at TopGlock the born-on date for my G26. Its prefix is GAA. Any help appreciated.
Dandapani
06-17-2006, 11:04
Originally posted by sundancekid
what's the born date of my G19 please,
HWG - G-19 3rd Gen made in Austria
bought in the Philippines May 26, 2006
Non-USA Glocks are hard to date.
From the serial numbers we have listed:
HWC - G-27 - February 2006
HWD - G-30 - January 2006
HWN - G-17 - February 2006 - 3rd Gen.
HWR - G-19 - February 2006 - 3rd Gen.
HWT - G-19 - March 2006 - 3rd Gen.
HWY - G-23 - February 2006
Dandapani
06-17-2006, 11:06
Originally posted by faqmat
what is the born date of my glock
G17 serial:DXT***US 3rd gen
Non-USA Glocks are hard to date.
From the serial numbers we have listed:
DXF - G-23 - September 2000 - 3rd Gen.
DXH - G-26 - September 2000 - 2.5 Gen.
DXK - G-27 - September 2000 - 2.5 Gen.
DXL - G-30 - September 2000 - 2.5 Gen.
DXT - G-17 - Unknown - 3rd Gen.
DXU - G-19 - October 2000
DXX - G-21C - October 2000 - 3rd Gen. - Purchased NIB Sept 2005
Dandapani
06-17-2006, 11:08
Originally posted by JMag
Can't locate here or at TopGlock the born-on date for my G26. Its prefix is GAA. Any help appreciated.
This is a hard one. You can call Glock to get an exact date.
From the serials we have listed.
FZV - G-22 - February 2004 - 3rd Gen.
FZY - G-23 - February 2004
FZZ - G-23 - February 2004 - 3rd Gen.
GAA would go here!
GAD - G-31 - May 2004 - - LCI
GAE - G-37 - December 2003
GAF - G-37 - April 2005 - 3rd Gen. - bought New March 2006
GAT - G-17 - February 2004 - 3rd Gen. - LCI
GAU - G-19 - February 2004 - 3rd Gen.
GAZ - G-22 - March 2004 - 3rd Gen.
The 31 and 37's are out of order date-wise, but this isn't unusual for Glock.
I'd put yours around Feb/March 2004.
sundancekid
06-17-2006, 12:47
@ dmobrien2001
thanks for the info just the same. appreciate it! :)
maximus2161
06-17-2006, 20:59
Not sure if this helps or if I am posting this right but I just got a new G19 that is KBU and the test fired round is dated May 2006.
dmobrien2001, thanks for the help!
GunmetalX
06-18-2006, 20:50
NIB G26 purchased May 17, 2006 in PA, USA. S/N prefix HBG. Envelope dated March 22, 2005.
(Is it normal for a G26 to sit in stock somewhere for over a year??)
HYV; G-26; 03/28/2006; 3rd Gen.; Blue Label Clamshell, LCI
Dandapani
06-19-2006, 05:01
Originally posted by GunmetalX
NIB G26 purchased May 17, 2006 in PA, USA. S/N prefix HBG. Envelope dated March 22, 2005.
(Is it normal for a G26 to sit in stock somewhere for over a year??)
Was this from a small dealer? I imagine, it could sit on a dealers shelf some time.
thedave1164
06-19-2006, 16:53
GFX - G-17 - 3rd Gen - August 2004
GMS - G-19 - 3rd Gen - April 2005 OD/no US in serial
GunmetalX
06-19-2006, 18:39
Originally posted by dmobrien2001
Was this from a small dealer? I imagine, it could sit on a dealers shelf some time.
I'm not sure how large or small the dealer is in absolute terms since I got it from him at a show, but he was probably one of the larger dealers at the show.. had quite a spread.
Have there been any changes to the G26 since March of 2005? I know about the 6-part upgrade from way back, but I just want to make sure I got the latest of everything out now in this new piece. :clown:
Dandapani
06-19-2006, 19:40
Originally posted by GunmetalX
I'm not sure how large or small the dealer is in absolute terms since I got it from him at a show, but he was probably one of the larger dealers at the show.. had quite a spread.
Have there been any changes to the G26 since March of 2005? I know about the 6-part upgrade from way back, but I just want to make sure I got the latest of everything out now in this new piece. :clown:
I imagine it has LCI and the new slick finish. My personal G26 is GEY and has these features. My mag followers are marked just "9mm" with no "-" designation. What are yours?
I think you've got the latest and greatest. The G26 is one of the finest 9mm I've ever shot (at least in my hands :)
GunmetalX
06-19-2006, 20:21
Originally posted by dmobrien2001
I imagine it has LCI and the new slick finish. My personal G26 is GEY and has these features. My mag followers are marked just "9mm" with no "-" designation. What are yours?
Yep, mine does have the LCI. The finish is WAY slicker/shinier than my G22, but I wasn't sure if it was just made that way or if it was due to wear (my G22 was born in '93 and was a police trade-in). I really like this new finish!
My mags are #5 followers and are also marked "9mm".
The G26 is one of the finest 9mm I've ever shot (at least in my hands :)
:) I can't wait to get mine to the range.. hopefully next weekend.
Appreciate all the help!
nitesite10mm
06-19-2006, 20:54
G29
ELU8xxUS
V2.5
10/17/2002 on the sealed envelope. On the Frame Recall list :frown:
EDIT 06-20-2002
Spoke with Fred at Glock in Smyrna. This pistol was manufactured Feb '02, shipped to a distributor in Georgia Oct '02.
He confirmed it would be 4-6 weeks to order a new frame from Austria and the s/n would have a "1" prefix.
glock509
06-21-2006, 03:09
g21 ACT814 7/92 2nd gen bought used police trade in
Originally posted by Glocks&Ducs
We all already know that. At the beginning of this thread, it was agreed upon that the envelope would be used as the "born on date". The test firing for the most part is the "born on date". It's not the day of manufacture. I don't think even Glock can give you that, as they don't bother to keep track. That is why Glock can't give you a manufacture or born on date, if the gun was bought outside of the US. We are the only ones that do the test fire/case collection envelopes.
Gotcha, no big deal. You know what's cool though? In the last couple of pages here I have started noticing people asking for the date on their pistols... kinda neat that this thread is going from less of a project to more of a reference... gotta love GTs power :supergrin:
Originally posted by dmobrien2001
CYE/CYY Late/Early 1998/1999 timeframe.
CUC June/July 1998 timeframe.
And
Thanks a lot!!!!!!!:) :) :) :)
I've got a G27 that's not on your list.
It's a GGP***
The date on the little brown envelope says
Date collected 7/15/2004
Sturmgewehr44
06-24-2006, 23:26
I picked up my brand new Glock 20 10mm today. The serial number is:
KBW***. The date on the yellow envelope with the two 10mm fired casings is: May 20th, 2006.
G-27. Serial: KASxxx. Test fired: 4/27/2006. Has round in chamber indicator.
GTE - G-17 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - New Zealand
Dandapani
06-27-2006, 05:27
Originally posted by KiwiFF
GTE - G-17 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - New Zealand
1) Excellent post, exact format for cut/paste into DB! Thanks!
2) Your pistol is likely from end of 2004:
GTB - G-27 - December 2004 - 2.5 Gen. - LCI
GTC - G-35 - Unknown
GTD - G-34 - December 2004 - 3rd Gen. - OD, LCI
GTE - G-17 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - New Zealand
GTG - G-19 - September 2004
GTY - G-17 - December 2004. - 3rd Gen. - LCI
GTZ - G-17 - January 2005 - - full cap mags
frogger17
06-27-2006, 18:30
KBR - G-17 - May 2006
Dandapani
06-27-2006, 20:57
Originally posted by frogger17
KBR - G-17 - May 2006 :thumbsup:
HNU - G-22 - September 2005 - 3rd Gen
Dandapani
06-28-2006, 18:04
Hanover & dru22 :cool:
Hobbes33
06-30-2006, 10:45
EMZ- G-22 - uknown - 3rd Gen. - NOT affected by recall (according to Glock)
Dandapani
06-30-2006, 11:00
Originally posted by Hobbes33
EMZ- G-22 - uknown - 3rd Gen. - NOT affected by recall (according to Glock)
Thanks for the update. Looks like you lucked out. Yours is right in the middle of some that are affected (or so it is listed):
MX - G-19 / G-34 / G-19 - December 2001 - 3rd Gen. - Frame Recall
EMY - G-21 - January 2002 - 3rd Gen. - (Affected by frame recall)
EMZ- G-22 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - NOT affected by recall (according to Glock)
ENA - G-22 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - Frame Recall
ENB - G-22 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - Frame Recall
It always pays to call Glock rather than relying on the Internet :)
Hobbes33
06-30-2006, 11:02
Yeah, I was a bit surprised when she said mine was okay. My buddy actually left his G22 with me while he flew out of town and I noticed the "E" and figured I'd find out if it was a recall for him. Am I a good guy or what!?
Dandapani
06-30-2006, 11:10
Originally posted by Hobbes33
Yeah, I was a bit surprised when she said mine was okay. My buddy actually left his G22 with me while he flew out of town and I noticed the "E" and figured I'd find out if it was a recall for him. Am I a good guy or what!?
You are :number1:
Radiator
07-01-2006, 09:21
Bought another G17.
CGxxx
G17
Barrel date BTY: April '87
1st generation
Very little use, barrel O.D./inside of slide still black. Austrian proof marked. Locking block, trigger bar, connector all black. Tupperware box, no label, with little fingers inside for holding ammo. Unmarked mag loader. Cleaning rod, no brush.
The post in the middle of the box has two "fins" on it. One of the fins will press directly on the trigger, the other on the inside of the trigger guard. 1.5 to 2 inches of plastic on left side of carrying case that would normally cover the muzzle is broken away! Did someone drop the case, OR did it go bang when they put the pistol in the case?
Bill
Dandapani
07-01-2006, 09:42
Originally posted by Radiator
Bought another G17.
CGxxx
G17
Barrel date BTY: April '87
1st generation
Very little use, barrel O.D./inside of slide still black. Austrian proof marked. Locking block, trigger bar, connector all black. Tupperware box, no label, with little fingers inside for holding ammo. Unmarked mag loader. Cleaning rod, no brush.
The post in the middle of the box has two "fins" on it. One of the fins will press directly on the trigger, the other on the inside of the trigger guard. 1.5 to 2 inches of plastic on left side of carrying case that would normally cover the muzzle is broken away! Did someone drop the case, OR did it go bang when they put the pistol in the case?
Bill
TG dates it: 07/1987
I recorded thusly:
CG - G-17 - July 1987 - 1st Gen. - Barrel date BTY: April '87, very little use, barrel O.D./inside of slide still black. Austrian proof marked. Locking block, trigger bar, connector all black.
FYI, Glock will "upgrade" the black parts with newer ones, but this might take away from the collectability of this specimen.
GXZ-G-19-3rd gen-Iraq-Being issued to Iraqi Army
Radiator
07-01-2006, 19:06
TG dates it: 07/1987
Fair enough, I was deciphering the barrel code by using the list in Patrick Sweeney's book, "The Gun Digest Book Of The Glock."
I'm going to hang on to all the black parts, and that case too. :supergrin:
Bill
TKE-AX611
07-01-2006, 20:00
MG
G-19
03/1990
2nd Gen
KAFxxx
G19
3rd Gen, lanyard hole
purchased June 2006
Dandapani
07-02-2006, 07:33
Originally posted by HEAVY
KAFxxx
G19
3rd Gen, lanyard hole
purchased June 2006
Where are you located? In USA? Did the paperwork include the little manilla envelope containing two spent cartridge casings? What's the date on that envelope? Thanks!
date my g-26 serial is hhw? it does not appear in this list, anybody knows that date is? thanks
Dandapani
07-03-2006, 04:40
Originally posted by Barrel
date my g-26 serial is hhw? it does not appear in this list, anybody knows that date is? thanks
HHW is a late model Glock. If you are in the USA, then you can call Glock USA in Smyrna and they can tell you, or, in most states, included with the paper work is a small manilla envelope containing two spent cartridges. There's a date on that envelope.
Otherwise, the GSN database lists the following serial numbers close to yours:
HHD - G-22 - July 2005 - 3rd Gen.
HHE - G-23 - July 2005 - 3rd Gen.
HHG - G-26 - July 2005
HHH - G-26 - July 2005
HHK - G-27 - June 2005 - 3rd Gen.
HHL - G-27 - Unknown - 2.5 Gen. - Black
HHM - G-30 - July 2005 - 3rd Gen. - with rail
HHN - G-35 - June 2005 - 3rd Gen.
HHP - G-34 - July 2005 - 3rd Gen.
HHR - G-31 - July 2005 - 3rd Gen.
HHR - G-32 - July 2005 - 3rd Gen.
HHZ - G-19 - Unknown - - purchased in Dominican Republic
I would say yours is from July 2005.
GeorgiaGlocker
07-05-2006, 12:35
Glock 26 OD Green
GVCXXX
11-24-2004
3rd gen
cmysprks
07-07-2006, 00:46
my s/n is FGL*** but it isn't on the list so some ome can help me i got the gun used thank you
Dandapani
07-07-2006, 04:36
Originally posted by cmysprks
my s/n is FGL*** but it isn't on the list so some ome can help me i got the gun used thank you
According to those in the list:FFW - G-21 - April 2003 - 3rd Gen. - L.E. purchase
FGH - G-27 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - L.E. purchase
FGP - G-34 - May 2003 - 3rd Gen.
FGT - G-19 - 2002 - 3rd Gen. - Philippines
FGV - G-23 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - Philippines
FGX - G-17 - April 2003 - 3rd Gen. - LCIE
FGZ - G-19 - March 2003 - 3rd Gen.
Your's was born in the March/April 2003 timeframe.
The only sure way of knowing is calling Glock in Smyrna, GA.
Razoreye
07-08-2006, 15:11
Friend has his new Glock 22
KDM***
Jun 16/2006
I believe we have our newest date!!
js_gresham
07-08-2006, 19:31
KDU - G-23 - May 2006 - 3rd Gen - LCI, 13 rd mags, no "US"
Bohannon
07-09-2006, 21:48
Purchased a new G-26. Last week, Born on date for Serial number
KCK - G-26 - June 2006
Just bought a brand-new G35 from a dealer here in the Philippines:
FAR-xxx. (3rd gen)
Bought yesterday a brand-new G17 from a dealer here in the Philippines:
HPL-xxx. (3rd gen)
Mike Papa
07-15-2006, 10:15
dmobrien2001 -
Purchased my Fifth G19, doesn't look like it's on THE LIST -
BBG - G-19 - October 1994 - 2nd Gen - Imported Oct 3 1994 per Glock
Thanks for all the time and work you put into this project!!! :thumbsup:
NuclearFusion88
07-15-2006, 16:17
HSD G-36 October 2005 Generation 2.5
rdmtbiker
07-17-2006, 00:12
HBN*** G-32 5/17/05 3rd Gen, LCI
Glock MH3 Night Sights and Rail.
rdmtbiker
07-17-2006, 00:36
GSE*** G-19 11/23/04 3rd gen with rail and LCI
rdmtbiker
07-17-2006, 00:40
GUU*** G-30 2/9/05 3rd Gen, LCI
No rail
Stud Duck
07-17-2006, 06:55
KCP***
3rd Generation G30, Imported 4/7/06 according to Glock.
SirDaniel
07-17-2006, 16:14
HME - G-17 - September 2005 - 3rd Gen.
Thanks for all your efforts.
dan :)
Dandapani
07-17-2006, 16:32
Originally posted by SirDaniel
HME - G-17 - September 2005 - 3rd Gen.
Thanks for all your efforts.
dan :)
1) thanks for the perfect submission format!
2) thanks for replacing the existing data entry which had no date
3) thanks for the thanks! :beer: :beer: :beer:
GxxxUS - First Generation 17 (no stippling). I don't know the year. I noticed there weren't any "plain" G SN's listed so I thought I would add one. Thanks
Dandapani
07-18-2006, 05:57
Originally posted by SDM
GxxxUS - First Generation 17 (no stippling). I don't know the year. I noticed there weren't any "plain" G SN's listed so I thought I would add one. Thanks
Just "G" is not a standard serial number (G followed by number and not one or two letters), but is usually reserved for replacement frames.
http://www.glockfaq.com/markings.htm#replacement
What is the alpha serial prefix on the barrel and slide? Do they match the frame?
Originally posted by SDM
GxxxUS - First Generation 17 (no stippling). I don't know the year. I noticed there weren't any "plain" G SN's listed so I thought I would add one. Thanks
And, more important, what's the serial number on the slide and barrel?
Are you sure the frame is first generation?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/ButchG17/Glock%20pics/Three_Generations.jpg
:patriot:
The slide is different, SXXX. I don't remember the barrel having a number, I'll check. I'm sure it is a 1st generation frame.
Originally posted by SDM
The slide is different, SXXX. I don't remember the barrel having a number, I'll check.
Interesting. I knew the frame was a replacement, but apparently the slide is also.....and maybe the barrel.
From The Glock Faq:
"Why does my frame/slide/barrel have a G#### / S#### / L#### serial number?
Replacement frames slides and barrels have special serial numbers. The serial number consists of a single letter followed by 4 digits:
G#### for replacement frames
S#### for replacement slides
L#### for replacement barrels
The prefixes seem to fit with the German translation of the part they represent:
G = Griffstück (frame)
S = Schlitten (slide)
L = Lauf (barrel)"
If the barrel doesn't have a serial number on it, it would also be a 'replacement' - I have a couple of unnumbered G17 barrels. All first generation Glocks would have a two letter prefix as part of the serial number.
If none of those three parts have such a number, it would be highly unusual as far as I know.....a whole Glock made of replacement parts, but entirely possible. But I would guess that it's not impossible for it to be a 'lunch pale' gun too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/ButchG17/3579e7ba.jpg
:patriot:
Dandapani
07-18-2006, 11:22
Originally posted by SDM
The slide is different, SXXX. I don't remember the barrel having a number, I'll check. I'm sure it is a 1st generation frame.
Please post all the serial numbers and I'll list in in the special section. If you feel the need, anonymize the last two digits.
G12xx - frame
S34xx - slide
L56xx (or) Unnumbered - barrel
Yours is truly unique if it is an all "parts" gun.
Oh, it gets better.
The trigger is the "target trigger". I knew the numbers didn't match and pointed out the trigger when I bought the gun. I didn't know they were all replacements though. I bought it to shoot so I'm not concerned, just interested.
Ok, excuse the parts ignorance... the portion of the trigger bar that sits horizontal in the frame, has a "+" on it. What does this mean? The connector itself is a 5.5 lb.
I think I know, but what do you mean by "lunch pale"?
Thanks, Butch
dmobrien2001,
I'll get the numbers together and post them later. I don't have anything with me now. Maybe try to get some pics too.
Dandapani
07-18-2006, 11:28
Originally posted by SDM
dmobrien2001,
I'll get the numbers together and post them later. I don't have anything with me now. Maybe try to get some pics too.
Post as many details as you call, all will be added to the entry. Thanks! :beer: :beer: :beer:
Originally posted by SDM
Ok, excuse the parts ignorance... the portion of the trigger bar that sits horizontal in the frame, has a "+" on it. What does this mean?
A small number of early G19's require the use of a special trigger bar with a higher 'kick up' (the rear part of the cruciform) to get sufficient engagement with the firing pin lug and those bars are marked with the '+' sign.
It's probable that whoever assembled the gun wanted the grooved trigger and didn't know what the '+' trigger bar was for. It's also possible that someone who did know what he was doing needed the extra kick up to solve an engagement problem.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/ButchG17/Glock%20pics/Kickuptriggerbar.jpg
I think I know, but what do you mean by "lunch pale"?
Yup, it means that it walked out of the building in the lunch pale, possibly one or two parts at a time.
I'm pretty sure that couldn't happen today, but I'm not at all familiar with the plant security of twenty years ago.
:patriot:
Dandapani
07-18-2006, 13:12
Originally posted by Butch
I'm pretty sure that couldn't happen today, but I'm not at all familiar with the plant security of twenty years ago.
I would encourage the OP to call Glock and get the story about the replacement frame. When made, when and to whom it was shipped, etc.
DNX-xxxUS / G23 / Mfg Feb 2000 / Purchased used in Feb 2003 LE gun / Blue label marked LE SALES ONLY / Tupperware box / Originally purchased by the Boone County (KY) Police Department
HGY-xxx / G21 / Mfg Aug 2005 / Purchased NIB December 7, 2005 / Blue label / 3 Hi cap mags
G-27
KEAxxx
http://i5.tinypic.com/20ie33d.jpg
Dandapani
07-20-2006, 09:49
Originally posted by EBR Owner
G-27
KEAxxx
Got Date?
the little manila envelope shows:
Caliber: .40
Model: G27
Serial# KEAxxx
Date Collected: May 22/2006
Technician: Betty Walton
Dandapani
07-20-2006, 12:44
Originally posted by EBR Owner
the little manila envelope shows:
Caliber: .40
Model: G27
Serial# KEAxxx
Date Collected: May 22/2006
Technician: Betty Walton
Thanks! You have the highest s/n recorded thus far! :number1:
Hondaguy1980
07-20-2006, 21:16
Just purchased a Glock 27 with a KCM serial #, I just have to wait for my concealed weapons amendment to come back and I'll be picking her up. Any idea when it was manufactured? I don't see any KCM's on the list.
I should be getting it mid next week...takes 3-5 business days to get the amendment back.
Glock 17
S/N: KDC ***
Born: June 06th 2006
Dandapani
07-21-2006, 04:50
Originally posted by Hondaguy1980
Just purchased a Glock 27 with a KCM serial #, I just have to wait for my concealed weapons amendment to come back and I'll be picking her up. Any idea when it was manufactured? I don't see any KCM's on the list.
I should be getting it mid next week...takes 3-5 business days to get the amendment back.
Call the dealer and ask them about the little brown envelope containing the fired cartridge casings before he sends them off to the state police or whomever collects those in NY. There's a date on the envelope.
Otherwise, your K series G-27 is one of the latest:
KCA - G-22 - May 2006
KCE - G-23 - May 2006
KCG - G-23 - May 2006 - 3rd Gen.
KCK - G-26 - June 2006
KCL - G-27 - May 2006 - - Blue Tag LEO
KCP - G-30 - April 2006 - 3rd Gen.
KCS - G-35 - May 2006
Please post all the serial numbers and I'll list in in the special section. If you feel the need, anonymize the last two digits.
Frame - G0XX
Slide - S6XX
Barrel - No number
No pictures yet but just imagine a 1st generation 17 with mismatched numbers.
It's probable that whoever assembled the gun wanted the grooved trigger and didn't know what the '+' trigger bar was for. It's also possible that someone who did know what he was doing needed the extra kick up to solve an engagement problem.
I replaced the trigger with a smooth one and everything seemed to function ok. I'll try to shoot it this weekend.
Thanks fellas.
Dandapani
07-21-2006, 06:13
Originally posted by SDM
Frame - G0XX
Slide - S6XX
Barrel - No number
No pictures yet but just imagine a 1st generation 17 with mismatched numbers.
I updated the "special" serial number section in the top post.
Some special and commemorative serial numbers that don't fit the general pattern:
G0XX - G-17 - Unknown - 1st Gen. - Complete parts gun, replacement frame, replacement slide - S6XX, replacement barrel - No number
Well, I traded-in my old 23 last night, and got one of the new gen models... and this is what the envelope says for my NEW 23:
Caliber: .40
Model: G27
Serial# KDWxxx
Date Collected: Jun 19/2006
Technician: Deon Ray
and here's the two of them...
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2161/glock2001ii8.jpg
Originally posted by dmobrien2001
Thanks! You have the highest s/n recorded thus far! :number1:
Originally posted by EBR Owner
the little manila envelope shows:
Caliber: .40
Model: G27
Serial# KEAxxx
Date Collected: May 22/2006
Technician: Betty Walton
Glocks&Ducs
07-21-2006, 18:58
DM,
I already posted this particular gun for the thread. But I thought I would point something out I never noticed before. I was taking a picture for another thread, and while reviewing the picture, I noticed that my 2nd generation G22 does not say "MADE IN AUSTRIA".
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b260/shmauricio/OldstyleG22008.jpg
Dandapani
07-21-2006, 19:01
Originally posted by Glocks&Ducs
DM,
I already posted this particular gun for the thread. But I thought I would point something out I never noticed before. I was taking a picture for another thread, and while reviewing the picture, I noticed that my 2nd generation G22 does not say "MADE IN AUSTRIA".
G&D, wow!!! I wonder what Butch would say about this one... I'll PM him about your post.
Rgds,
Dan
i cant find HSF would you please tell me when it born?
Dandapani
07-22-2006, 05:38
Originally posted by tOnz
i cant find HSF would you please tell me when it born?
We don't have further info that what is submitted by our membership. But from the data thus submitted, I would estimate yours was made in November/December 2005 timeframe. If OD, then more likely November, if black, then more likely December.
HSA - G-27 - November 2005 - 2.5 Gen. - LE blue label box
HSB - G-27 - December 2005
HSC - G-27 - December 2005
HSD - G-36 - October 2005 - 2.5 Gen.
HSE - G-38 - November 2005 - 3rd Gen. - OD Green
HSE - G-39 - November 2005 - 3rd Gen. - OD Green
HSM - G-17 - December 2005
HSR - G-17 - December 2005 - 3rd Gen.
HSS - G-19 - December 2005 - 3rd Gen.
HST - G-19 - December 2005
HSU - G-19 - December 2005
HSX - G-23 - December 2005
HSY - G-23 - December 2005
HSZ - G-26 - December 2005 - 2.5 Gen.
hmm do you think is it 3rd gen? my glock button for release mag is different with my friend glock. but it also HSFxxx too. i'm so confuse .
Originally posted by tOnz
hmm do you think is it 3rd gen? my glock button for release mag is different with my friend glock. but it also HSFxxx too. i'm so confuse .
What model is it?
:patriot:
Originally posted by Glocks&Ducs
DM,
I already posted this particular gun for the thread. But I thought I would point something out I never noticed before. I was taking a picture for another thread, and while reviewing the picture, I noticed that my 2nd generation G22 does not say "MADE IN AUSTRIA".
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b260/shmauricio/OldstyleG22008.jpg
My older one's are that way too......
:patriot:
Originally posted by Butch
What model is it?
:patriot:
it's model HSFxxx anyone know what generation for this Model. i'm live in thailand
Dandapani
07-22-2006, 11:55
Originally posted by tOnz
it's model HSFxxx anyone know what generation for this Model. i'm live in thailand
No, what GLOCK model, G-19, G-27, G-17,... is it?
Originally posted by tOnz
it's model HSFxxx anyone know what generation for this Model. i'm live in thailand
:) HSFxxx is the serial number.
At any rate, the easy answer is that it's a genration 3, they don't make Gen's 1 and 2 anymore, and your's is a very recently made gun.
If it's a subcompact model (like a G26) and doesn't have the rails on the bottom front of the frame to mount a light on, some might call it a generation 2.5.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/ButchG17/Glock%20pics/Glock_Generations.jpg
:patriot:
cyberj61
07-22-2006, 22:29
FWB G-22 11/2003 3rd
GNB G-27 05/2005 OD Green
FNY G-29 11/2003
Originally posted by tOnz
it's model HSFxxx anyone know what generation for this Model. i'm live in thailand
it's G19
KDY G26 6/2006 (from envelope, born on date June 19th)
Purchased online June 26th from GlockWorld, received it in the mail on June 29th (well, the local dealer received it on my behalf) - just 10 days after the firing date!!! Talk about a newborn . . . .
anyone who live in austria would you please call to glock and ask when my glock is born .it's HSFxxx Glock19 .
thank you
Originally posted by tOnz
anyone who live in austria would you please call to glock and ask when my glock is born .it's HSFxxx Glock19 .
thank you
I'm not in Austria, but I'd just bet that it was made in November of 2005......or possibly December.
This based on when the rest of the 'HS' prefix guns were made that are listed above on page one of this thread:
HSA - G-27 - November 2005 - 2.5 Gen. - LE blue label box
HSB - G-27 - December 2005
HSC - G-27 - December 2005
HSD - G-36 - October 2005 - 2.5 Gen.
HSE - G-38 - November 2005 - 3rd Gen. - OD Green
HSE - G-39 - November 2005 - 3rd Gen. - OD Green
HSM - G-17 - December 2005
HSR - G-17 - December 2005 - 3rd Gen.
HSS - G-19 - December 2005 - 3rd Gen.
HST - G-19 - December 2005
HSU - G-19 - December 2005
HSX - G-23 - December 2005
HSY - G-23 - December 2005
HSZ - G-26 - December 2005 - 2.5 Gen.
:patriot:
Dandapani
07-24-2006, 08:30
Originally posted by Butch
I'm not in Austria, but I'd just bet that it was made in November of 2005......or possibly December.
This based on when the rest of the 'HS' prefix guns were made that are listed above on page one of this thread:
Yup. That's EXACTLY what I told him a few posts up...
http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=6562096#post6562096
I guess that wasn't good enough for him and wants a Glock answer.
thank you very much for info :)
chad10mm
07-25-2006, 08:14
Purchased NIB this week...
KCNxxx G29 Jun 12/2006
Willamette
07-25-2006, 09:38
I have a G22 with the ENC prefix which shows data missing in your listing
G22, ENCxx7 has a third gen frame and second gen slide (no LCI and older smoother grayish finish).
This frame is affected by the recall and upon replacement includes a 1US prefix prefix to indicate the replaced frame and maintain the BBL serial matching.
Mr.Niceguy
07-25-2006, 12:47
KES### G-19 July 7, 2006
1 and Pentagon on barrel
More info-
3rd gen frame, LCI, and the finish on the slide is much darker then my HUZ### G-17.
Dandapani
07-25-2006, 13:14
Originally posted by Mr.Niceguy
KES### G-19 July 7, 2006
1 and Pentagon on barrel
:number1: - highest serial number to date!!!
i just found out my latests used birthdate
EAN***, G19C, 3rd Gen,
(according to Glock) imported to US January, 2001
hope that helps the list...
GSDxxx Glock 17 3rd Gen.imported from Austria October 29, 2004 According to "Ed" Glock Smyrna, GA.
GKT - G-19 - July 2004 - 3rd Gen - LE/Govt model w/hi caps during ban
Dandapani
07-27-2006, 11:16
Originally posted by berk73
GKT - G-19 - July 2004 - 3rd Gen - LE/Govt model w/hi caps during ban
Thanks for updating the old entry that had an Unknown date. Yours replaced it with full info!
Hello all, first post.
I recently aquired a G36.
I copied and pasted this:
HXH - G-36 - May 2006 - - old style serial number plate
HXH*** on the serial.
NIB, came with two fired casings in a brown envelope, small bore cleaner, instructions/registration envelope, two mags and a reloader.
Drbironhead
07-28-2006, 11:03
mine is KFGxxx its a glock 23 anyone have any idea when it was made or any info on it
Dandapani
07-28-2006, 11:12
Originally posted by Drbironhead
mine is KFGxxx its a glock 23 anyone have any idea when it was made or any info on it
That is brand new. Look in your "paper work" that came with the pistol. It should have a little brown envelope containing fired cartridge casings. What's the date of the envelope?
ETA: The last one in the database is:KES - G-19 - July 2006 - - 1 and Pentagon on barrel so yours has to be even newer than it!
Drbironhead
07-28-2006, 12:02
yes it is new i got it yesterday mine also had a pentigon on the barrel
Dandapani
07-28-2006, 12:56
Originally posted by Drbironhead
yes it is new i got it yesterday mine also had a pentigon on the barrel
So post the date from the little brown envelope when you get home tonight and then YOU will have the highest serial number listed :) :rollsmiley: :)
Drbironhead
07-28-2006, 13:14
I feel honored
blackjackmass
07-30-2006, 10:14
G30, CKD***, 07/1997, 2.5 gen
Dandapani
07-30-2006, 12:46
oops.
freakshow10mm
07-30-2006, 17:48
Glock 30 (w/ finger grooves)
3/18/2003
FHS
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