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KNE - G17 - BOD= 12-08-06
US frame w/ 10 digit# on frame
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View Full Version : Glock Serial Number Research Project (New) TakeDown 12-13-2006, 20:37 KNE - G17 - BOD= 12-08-06 US frame w/ 10 digit# on frame seaswol 12-14-2006, 19:27 KFT - G37 - 3rd Gen 7-13-06 - Lanyard Hole KLP - G36 - 3rd Gen 10-12-06 - No lanyard hole Chris slee71 12-15-2006, 01:36 You've got a listing for "AHT - G-?? - March 1993" but no model, well I just bought a Glock 20 (10mm) with an AHT ser#. So ---- "AHT - G-20 - March 1993" Dandapani 12-15-2006, 05:16 Originally posted by slee71 You've got a listing for "AHT - G-?? - March 1993" but no model, well I just bought a Glock 20 (10mm) with an AHT ser#. So ---- "AHT - G-20 - March 1993" Thanks for helping to improve our database! Always glad to revise old, missing data! Cheers! :banana: Ramtuff 12-16-2006, 18:19 AZX - G19 - September 1994 - 2nd gen Trabuco 12-16-2006, 20:09 Are the missing "I" and "J" series Glocks the 50,000 G19's supplied to the Iraqi police...will someone in Irak ask a policeman to see the serial number of his G19? Dandapani 12-16-2006, 20:15 Originally posted by Trabuco Are the missing "I" and "J" series Glocks the 50,000 G19's supplied to the Iraqi police...will someone in Irak ask a policeman to see the serial number of his G19? No. Certain first letters are skipped. Not exactly sure. We debated which letter would come after H over in another thread back just before the K's appeared. Read this page for some more info: http://www.glockfaq.com/markings.htm#prototype explains "J". There are some "JQ"s listed, but these are "cutaways". Trabuco 12-16-2006, 20:22 Nah...I'll bet you the I and J series Glocks are the G19's sold to the Iraqi police. Broadside 12-17-2006, 15:23 AZW - G-19 - date unknown - 2nd Gen Dandapani 12-17-2006, 16:16 Originally posted by Broadside AZW - G-19 - date unknown - 2nd Gen Per TopGlock: AZW - G-19 - August 1994 - 2nd Gen. Droanx 12-18-2006, 08:30 HKS G 22 8/4/2005 3rd Gen. Purchased March 2006 in WPB, FL swampfox3 12-18-2006, 08:54 FN - G19 - 2nd gen - 6/1/1989 per TopGlock Dandapani 12-18-2006, 10:11 Originally posted by swampfox3 FN - G19 - 2nd gen - 6/1/1989 per TopGlock A nice old one we didn't already have! :thumbsup: stingray4540 12-18-2006, 16:57 KPP - G23C - 3rd Gen. - 12/13/06 Dandapani 12-18-2006, 16:59 Originally posted by stingray4540 KPP - G23C - 3rd Gen. - 12/13/06 :number1: Highest Serial Number so far!!!! :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :thumbsup: stingray4540 12-18-2006, 17:03 Just registered it today!:banana: Will get to pick it up on the 30th.<img src ="http://bestsmileys.com/dancing/11.gif"> I ordered it through GSSF and was expecting it to take nearly the full 8 weeks to get it since it was a C, but was very pleasantly surprised when I got a call from my dealer on Fri. The GLOCK company is great! Do you know what order the serial numbers go? the last three? Do they start with 000 and end with 999, or do they go backwards? Or, do they start and end with totally different numbers and go in some weird random order? Dandapani 12-18-2006, 17:42 Originally posted by stingray4540 Do you know what order the serial numbers go? the last three? Do they start with 000 and end with 999, or do they go backwards? Or, do they start and end with totally different numbers and go in some weird random order? When we think we understand how Glock assigns serial numbers, then a new pattern emerges... We can only assume they start 000 and end with 999. There is no order to the alpha prefix apparently. Some come sooner, some come later. They generally increase as time goes by... :supergrin: G27Chief 12-18-2006, 19:43 Thanks on the HWZ question. I cannot find my 23 in the list, it is marked DFA with a 3 digit number following/ Glockerstein 12-18-2006, 22:41 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 START_BLOCK KAA - G-26 - April 2006 - - BOD 4/7, came with NY1 installed, fixed sights, new case, LCI, first entry after "H" series, submitted by Arrowman KAB - G-26 - May 2006 ...... KNP - G-19 - November 2006 - - OD, LCI, "Austria" on frame and slide, GSSF Purchase Program KPN - G-35 - November 2006 - - OD KPP - G-23C - December 2006 - 3rd Gen. END_BLOCK Can you please add "3rd Gen., GSSF Purchase Program" on mine for: KPN***? Thanks. Dandapani 12-19-2006, 05:20 Originally posted by ChiefLumpkinPD Thanks on the HWZ question. I cannot find my 23 in the list, it is marked DFA with a 3 digit number following/ DFA - G-23 - July 1999 per TopGlock Dandapani 12-19-2006, 05:21 Originally posted by Glockerstein Can you please add "3rd Gen., GSSF Purchase Program" on mine for: KPN***? Thanks. Done. k594 12-19-2006, 23:30 KNM - G19- 3RD GEN 11/15/2006 RandySmith 12-20-2006, 09:37 You have this listed: EGF - G-23 - August 2001 - 3rd Gen. Please add to it - no frame recall Randy pierce195 12-20-2006, 16:43 Glock 27 KMX blue label Oct 2006 CLee0507 12-21-2006, 22:35 AGY, G-19, 2nd. Gen., Feb. 1993, US in serial KFE, G-23, 3rd. Gen., Jul. 2006 kingsnake 12-22-2006, 17:20 KNR*** Dec08/2006 is what the envelope with the spent cases said. Spoyldrotn 12-22-2006, 18:19 KNX--- / G22 / Dec 04, 2006 / 10 digit # on frame / blue label purchase tarsij 12-22-2006, 22:14 KNW*** - G22 - Blue Label - Casings say test fired on 11/27/2006 R3508 12-24-2006, 10:10 I didn't see the prefix for my "police surplus" G22. It has night-sights, extended slide lock, and NY-1. :hearts: Dandapani 12-24-2006, 16:30 Originally posted by R3508 I didn't see the prefix for my "police surplus" G22. It has night-sights, extended slide lock, and NY-1. :hearts: Date per TopGlock: CKL - G-22 - September 1997 - - night-sights, extended slide lock, NY-1 trigger R3508 12-24-2006, 18:02 :hugs: AJE 12-25-2006, 23:51 KKW - G21 - Nov 06 - Blue Tag LEO, slot on mags Squid699 12-26-2006, 17:09 G34 KNBxxx 18 Oct 2006 Made in Austria TakeDown 12-26-2006, 21:19 KSB--- / G19 / BOD: 12-14-06 / Made in Austria Dandapani 12-27-2006, 04:39 Originally posted by TakeDown KSB--- / G19 / BOD: 12-14-06 / Made in Austria :milestone: HIGHEST SERIAL NUMBER RECORDED!!! :thumbsup: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: TakeDown 12-27-2006, 23:18 auryte. :thumbsup: EmTFoRLiFe 2004 12-28-2006, 16:19 KMS - G23 - November 2006 - - 10 digit # on frame, red label poison7fl 12-30-2006, 19:36 KMV - G-26 - November 2006 - 3 Gen. - Stock U.S. Model UPDATED Miguel 01-01-2007, 12:38 G22 3rd Gen KBYxxx DOB 5/1/06 poison7fl 01-02-2007, 12:05 Originally posted by poison7fl KVM - G-26 - November 2006 - 3 Gen. - Stock U.S. Model CORRECTION - PLEASE UPDATE IN LIST KMV - G-26 - November 2006 - 3 Gen. - Stock U.S. Model KMV IS CORRECT Serial ON G26, Written wrong on receipt.. Dandapani 01-02-2007, 12:35 Originally posted by poison7fl CORRECTION - PLEASE UPDATE IN LIST KMV - G-26 - November 2006 - 3 Gen. - Stock U.S. Model KMV IS CORRECT Serial ON G26, Written wrong on receipt.. Thanks for the correction. Did you notice, I didn't automatically give yours the highest serial number recorded milestone? :supergrin: Zenit 01-03-2007, 11:47 G30 BOD 12-16-06, HWDxxx, 3rd gen, all stamped made in Austria. viva la ben 01-03-2007, 17:21 G17 KLZ Nov21/2006 3rd Gen legion3 01-03-2007, 17:59 G26 FFD - 2/3/2003 according to empty case envelope Texas23 01-04-2007, 09:16 BNN - G-23 - September 1, 1995 - 2 Gen. - Stock U.S. Model jjboogie 01-06-2007, 14:29 My G19 KSB December of 2006!!! Wow mine is just a baby! :hugs: I never thought I would be so sensitive about a gun. Do I need therapy? :shocked: dj1540 01-06-2007, 16:07 I just noticed my g19 is within the frame recall of 2002, don't shoot it as much, if i call glock u think they would replace the frame? #EPE. Dandapani 01-06-2007, 16:53 Originally posted by dj1540 I just noticed my g19 is within the frame recall of 2002, don't shoot it as much, if i call glock u think they would replace the frame? #EPE. Call Glock and they will fix you right up if yours needs the "upgrade"! mserr 01-07-2007, 05:20 KLE - G23 - SEPTEMBER 2006 - 3RD GEN. troy96 01-07-2007, 05:27 DCF-XXX US G-30 Date unknown Dandapani 01-07-2007, 07:08 Originally posted by troy96 DCF-XXX US G-30 Date unknown Per TopGlock: DCF - G-30 - March 1999 troy96 01-07-2007, 07:12 http://www.deafonline2.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/signthankspin.gif jstforme 01-07-2007, 12:26 KLN-G32-September 2006-red tagged, Austria manufactured Devils7 01-07-2007, 16:52 purchased SPD, Smyrna, GA...what does SPD entail? jstforme 01-07-2007, 18:45 Originally posted by jstforme KLN-G32-September 2006-red tagged, Austria manufactured you need to delete the blue tagged kln g32. thanks Dandapani 01-07-2007, 18:48 Originally posted by Devils7 purchased SPD, Smyrna, GA...what does SPD entail? More words please. Butch, can you decipher this? dj1540 01-07-2007, 20:21 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 More words please. Butch, can you decipher this? i know he is speaking of smyrna police distributors, but what did he get from there???? troy96 01-08-2007, 08:44 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 START_BLOCK CMT - G-30 - April 1998 - 3rd Gen. CYC - G-30 - November 1998 - 3rd Gen. . END_BLOCK Did they not know what a 2.5 was or did Glock make 30's with and without rails at the same time? Dandapani 01-08-2007, 08:56 Originally posted by troy96 Did they not know what a 2.5 was or did Glock make 30's with and without rails at the same time? We are pretty lax when it comes to describing the "sub-compacts". 2.5 Gen, as Butch has schooled me, was a transition model for the large frame Glocks. All sub-compacts were made after the 3rd gen (grooves and rails) were already in production so technically they are all 3rd gen. Folks like to generalize and say all "grooves and no rails" are 2.5 gen, but that's not technically correct. Besides, 29s and 30s aren't true sub-compacts :tongueout: DeeZee 01-08-2007, 18:43 EPWxxxUS - G-30 - 1/24/02 - 3rd Gen. Technician - Waylon Lewis Just to let Y'all know I called Glock about the "recall", and my new frame is on order from Austria right now.....So in about 2 months I should have her back with a new bottom end. Thanks to Dan and Butch for maintaining such a great Glock resource! Devils7 01-08-2007, 23:49 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 More words please. Butch, can you decipher this? My bad! I got a G19 with the serial # HVC***.... Butch 01-09-2007, 01:00 Originally posted by Devils7 My bad! I got a G19 with the serial # HVC***.... Alright! :) Now....what's the date on the little envelope with the two empty cases in it? :patriot: Butch 01-09-2007, 01:02 Originally posted by DeeZee Thanks to Dan and Butch for maintaining such a great Glock resource! I'd love to take credit for it, but I'm just the cheerleader.....Dan does the work! :patriot: Devils7 01-09-2007, 01:55 Originally posted by Butch Alright! :) Now....what's the date on the little envelope with the two empty cases in it? :patriot: Um January 2006 just like its listed in the H series. dj1540 01-09-2007, 10:17 Technician - Waylon Lewis Just to let Y'all know I called Glock about the "recall", and my new frame is on order from Austria right now.....So in about 2 months I should have her back with a new bottom end. Thanks to Dan and Butch for maintaining such a great Glock resource! Same here was told between 2 to 6week window to have the frame made and sent to them. APGlock27 01-09-2007, 18:42 G27 - HEY### - sample taken 5/23/2005 All I know about this gun is it was previously owned (original owner) by a LEO who sold it to me ... Josh82 01-09-2007, 23:48 DYX***US Unknown 3rd gen G23 Every resource I've looked on for the date of manufacture for DYX has given me nothing. I tried calling glock and they gave me an approximate between date (between years mind you). Is that as good as I'm gonna get for an answer? Any help? Dandapani 01-10-2007, 04:54 Originally posted by Josh82 DYX***US Unknown 3rd gen G23 Every resource I've looked on for the date of manufacture for DYX has given me nothing. I tried calling glock and they gave me an approximate between date (between years mind you). Is that as good as I'm gonna get for an answer? Any help? DYX isn't listed with TopGlock. Interesting that Glock can't give you a straight answer. If Glock can't nail it down, then yes, that's as good as it gets. What years did Glock tell you? I would put it Oct 2000 given the others in the range: DYM - G-36 - October 2000 - 3rd Gen. DYN - G-19 - Unknown - 2nd Gen. - France DYS - G-19 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - purchased Jan 2001, no LCI DYX - G-23 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. DYZ - G-23C - October 2000 - 3rd Gen. Josh82 01-10-2007, 21:02 2000 to 2002. It was defintely one of those times where I thought they were brushing me off? I wouldn't come to expect that from a company who's products I personally trust my life with. I will call again tommorow and hope that the same person doesn't answer. hawkman28 01-10-2007, 21:07 HWK - G22 - Unknown - 3rd Gen - Philippines (Tactical) PP914 01-10-2007, 21:20 The list as is: ETK - G-30 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - Frame Recall Mine: Frame: ETK***US Slide/Barrel: ETK*** (no "US") G-30 03/15/02 Frame recall Finger grooves/no rail LCI pentagon on barrel Is this a "transition" gun, explaining the hodgepodge of US/non-US and lack of rails? (From the list, it seems so, just want to confirm.) TIA swilcoxaz 01-11-2007, 21:53 KND - G-17 - December 2006- 3rd Gen - U.S. Frame with 7000350073 on frame jonathon 01-11-2007, 22:17 DSK - G-17 - May 2000 - 3rd Gen Thats the one I just got and just checked on Top Glock.. JerryO 01-11-2007, 23:59 FVX - G19 11/10/2003 Adjustable sights, 3-pin, Grip grooves and rail JerryO Dandapani 01-12-2007, 04:50 Originally posted by hawkman28 HWK - G22 - Unknown - 3rd Gen - Philippines (Tactical) Seems to fit in the Feb 2006 timeframe. HWC - G-27 - February 2006 HWD - G-30 - December 2006 - 3rd Gen. - stamped made in Austria HWD - G-30 - January 2006 HWK - G-22 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - Philippines (Tactical) HWN - G-17 - February 2006 - 3rd Gen. Dandapani 01-12-2007, 04:53 Originally posted by PP914 The list as is: ETK - G-30 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - Frame Recall Mine: Frame: ETK***US Slide/Barrel: ETK*** (no "US") G-30 03/15/02 Frame recall Finger grooves/no rail LCI pentagon on barrel Is this a "transition" gun, explaining the hodgepodge of US/non-US and lack of rails? (From the list, it seems so, just want to confirm.) TIA US vs non-US: was only done for a time by Glock. New Glocks don't have US. Rails are only recent, the last year on the non-sub sub-compacts like the G30 and 29. Thanks for the date. We didn't have one for the ETK in the list. :thumbsup: alank2 01-12-2007, 10:35 Hi, KPG - G-27 - December 2006 Thanks, Alan legion3 01-12-2007, 14:21 You already have this gun listed but FM is a Glock 19 and it has Austrian Proofs and ZTD on the Barrel Breach Area and no 9x19 on top of breach area. Dandapani 01-12-2007, 17:08 Originally posted by legion3 You already have this gun listed but FM is a Glock 19 and it has Austrian Proofs and ZTD on the Barrel Breach Area and no 9x19 on top of breach area. FM - G-19 - June 1989 - - Austrian Proofs, ZTD (6/89) proof date, no 9x19 on top of breach area I replaced the one there with yours having more data. I assume it is Gen 2 (no finger grooves). cmcinc 01-12-2007, 22:02 G23 AYR xxx 6/94 G27 BWD xxx 4/96 These are dates I got from Glockmeister. Squid699 01-13-2007, 16:03 G26 4Dec06 KPDXXX Austrian manufacture. Neil308 01-13-2007, 18:23 KSM G22 1/2007 GSSF prize made in Austria Dandapani 01-13-2007, 18:33 Originally posted by Neil308 KSM G22 1/2007 GSSF prize made in Austria HIGHEST SERIAL NUMBER RECORDED!!! :thumbsup: :number1: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: Bob_Dolemite 01-13-2007, 21:45 KSC G19 December 2006 J T 01-14-2007, 09:22 GPY - G-26 - December 2004 - 3rd Gen Case collected 12/10/2004 TOG23 01-14-2007, 18:27 Glock 23 bought Dec 24th (present to my self)with Trijicon night sites.. KPA *** Dandapani 01-14-2007, 18:53 Originally posted by TOG23 Glock 23 bought Dec 24th (present to my self) KPA *** What's the DATE on the little brown envelope containing two empty cartridge casings? ryan_kalani 01-14-2007, 20:41 My G22 was born on 11/01/1999 with serial number "DKM XXX US" along with a pentagon symbol on the barrel and "FGR". 0DDJ0B 01-15-2007, 00:19 This may be kinda late but here is what I have: G34 FGP 05/01/2003 G17 FEM 02/17/2003 G19 GVL 01/20/2005 rk246 01-15-2007, 22:30 Here is my 27, BVG4xx- Model 27- 4/1/1996 according to Topglock. Thanks stangyg123 01-17-2007, 16:07 New G30 w/tac-rail to add to the list: Date on casing envelope is Aug 22 2006 Serial is KFP*** let me know if you need any more info. Thanks, Stangy legion3 01-17-2007, 16:59 DMK G19 2/1/2000 by topGlock 3rd Gen frame BFG G19 3/1/1995 By TopGlock 2nd generation frame - Factory night sights TOG23 01-17-2007, 20:43 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 What's the DATE on the little brown envelope containing two empty cartridge casings? 7 Dec 2006 on the brown envelope. I havent seen a KPA yet. Cdr. Instigator 01-20-2007, 17:42 Can someone help me find my gun't born on date please.. I looked for it but I only found Prefix's KM but no results.. My G30's Serial Prefix # starts with KMT03* J Crew 01-20-2007, 17:54 DSE - G-30 - April 2000 - 2.5 Gen. DSF - G-32 - April 2000 - 3rd Gen. DSK - G-17 - May 2000 - 3rd Gen. i've got a G33 with the prefix 'DSF' not sure if this was mis-typed, but thought i'd let you know. kf4zra 01-20-2007, 18:33 CCZ G-27 12/96 gen 2 (poss 2.5) finger grooves no checkering. Dragster 01-20-2007, 19:30 KMT - G-23 - Nov-27-2006 - 3rd Gen What is FFL#1-58-067-08-07-90327 ? Dandapani 01-20-2007, 20:54 Originally posted by J Crew i've got a G33 with the prefix 'DSF' not sure if this was mis-typed, but thought i'd let you know. Could be a typo, BUT the prefix aren't assigned to particular model numbers. There are many instances with the same prefix and different model numbers. What is the date of your G33? I'll list it with the other one. Dandapani 01-20-2007, 20:57 Originally posted by Cdr, Instigator Can someone help me find my gun't born on date please.. I looked for it but I only found Prefix's KM but no results.. My G30's Serial Prefix # starts with KMT03* Your KMT is BRAND NEW. Did it come with complete paperwork? What's the date on the little brown envelope that contains two fired cartridge casings? KMF - G-22 - October 2006 - 3rd Gen. KMS - G-23 - November 2006 - 3rd Gen. - Frame says Made in Austria KMT - G-30 - ????? - - THIS IS WHERE YOURS WOULD GO! KMU - G-26 - October 2006 - 3rd Gen. KMV - G-26 - November 2006 - 3rd Gen. KMX - G-27 - October 2006 - - blue label Dandapani 01-20-2007, 21:00 Originally posted by kf4zra CCZ G-27 12/96 gen 2 (poss 2.5) finger grooves no checkering. Still technically a Gen 3, but most people call it a Gen 2.5, finger grooves, no rail. You just have an early one without the checkering between the grooves. Dandapani 01-20-2007, 21:03 Originally posted by Dragster KMT - G-23 - Nov-27-2006 - 3rd Gen What is FFL#1-58-067-08-07-90327 ? Was this FFL# on the little brown envelope? I no longer have a Glock to check one out. It is likely Glocks FFL number. If the number you are quoting is from something else, please provide a little more context to your question. Perhaps a picture. PW Glocker 01-20-2007, 22:43 G17 serial GYX brown packet has 4/28/2005 thanks Paul Cdr. Instigator 01-20-2007, 22:48 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 Was this FFL# on the little brown envelope? I no longer have a Glock to check one out. It is likely Glocks FFL number. If the number you are quoting is from something else, please provide a little more context to your question. Perhaps a picture. The FFL# on the brown envelope is as you posted.. Date collected: it says, Nov 27 2006 so, this is the date they tested or built it? Recluse 01-21-2007, 02:07 KTR - G-19 - January 10th, 2007 (brown casing packet) - 3rd Gen - Sold NIB with two 15 mags (dealer pointed this out as different). Dandapani 01-21-2007, 06:21 Originally posted by Cdr, Instigator The FFL# on the brown envelope is as you posted.. Date collected: it says, Nov 27 2006 so, this is the date they tested or built it? 11/27/06 is when they test fired it before shipping it out to their distributor so that is the best date we have for "BORN ON DATE". Dandapani 01-21-2007, 06:25 Originally posted by Recluse KTR - G-19 - January 10th, 2007 (brown casing packet) - 3rd Gen - Sold NIB with two 15 mags (dealer pointed this out as different). 1) Providing two standard capacity mags isn't "different". They have been shipped that way since shortly after the end of the AWB in 9/04. UNLESS you live in a non-Free State like CA where mags with capacity greater than 10 are still "illegal" :upeyes: 2) You have: THE HIGHEST SERIAL NUMBER THUS RECORDED :milestone: :thumbsup: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: J Crew 01-21-2007, 08:02 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 Could be a typo, BUT the prefix aren't assigned to particular model numbers. There are many instances with the same prefix and different model numbers. What is the date of your G33? I'll list it with the other one. April-01-2000 - 3rd generation Recluse 01-21-2007, 09:52 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 1) Providing two standard capacity mags isn't "different". They have been shipped that way since shortly after the end of the AWB in 9/04. UNLESS you live in a non-Free State like CA where mags with capacity greater than 10 are still "illegal" :upeyes: Perhaps I misunderstood his emphasis then. EDIT: "Red label is standard, or hi-cap, magazines. White is 10-rd., and Blue is LE/Military."-Source (http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=643012&perpage=25&highlight=&pagenumber=2) My Glock's case had a red label - that's what the guy was referring to. Originally posted by dmobrien2001 2) You have: THE HIGHEST SERIAL NUMBER THUS RECORDED :milestone: :thumbsup: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: [/B] :thumbsup: grayelky 01-21-2007, 17:16 ENNXXX-US G-33 fired case envelope date: 05-01-2002 3rd Gen myglockisa23 01-21-2007, 18:46 KKP 48x G36......made in Austria on frame, factory N/S... spent casings dated 09/13/06 Dandapani 01-21-2007, 19:39 Originally posted by myglockisa23 KKP 48x G36......made in Austria on frame, factory N/S... What's the date on the little brown envelope containing two fired cartridge casings? It should be with all the other paperwork... Dragster 01-21-2007, 19:44 Originally posted by Cdr, Instigator The FFL# on the brown envelope is as you posted.. Date collected: it says, Nov 27 2006 so, this is the date they tested or built it? The envelope has both, the date as was posted Nov 27-2006 and also this mysterious number FFL#1-58-067-08-07-90327. Then what does "FFL" mean? I can't make a date out of the FFL number unless it is a coded date. If so, then why have both date and FFL numbers typed on the envelope? On the opposite side it has "LT-1" hand written. Just curious. Thanks, Eddie Dandapani 01-21-2007, 20:34 Originally posted by Dragster The envelope has both, the date as was posted Nov 27-2006 and also this mysterious number FFL#1-58-067-08-07-90327. Then what does "FFL" mean? I can't make a date out of the FFL number unless it is a coded date. If so, then why have both date and FFL numbers typed on the envelope? On the opposite side it has "LT-1" hand written. Just curious. Thanks, Eddie Federal Firearms License. Glock, after all, is a manufacturer of firearms for sale to the public and is required to hold a US Government issued license. According to the FFL verification page: https://www.atfonline.gov/fflezcheck/ License Number: 1-58-XXX-XX-XX-90327 Expiration Date: 01/01/2010 License Name: GLOCK INC Trade Name: Premise Address: 6000 HIGHLANDS PKWY SMYRNA GA - 300820000 License Name: PO BOX 369 SMYRNA GA - 300810000 myglockisa23 01-21-2007, 21:12 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 What's the date on the little brown envelope containing two fired cartridge casings? It should be with all the other paperwork... 09/13/2006 Martial Archer 01-22-2007, 19:20 HYT G23 March 2006 3rd Gen. KMW G27 Sept. 2006 3rd Gen. RichieRich3902 01-22-2007, 20:20 I have a Glock that is listed as Unknown on your list. HUB 567 Dec. 05 3rd Generation Frame is marked Made in Austria, the envelope that contains the spent casings is dated December of 2005. Please email (rfhtf3@umkc.edu) me with any questions or if you need any photo's. Rich turtlexiv 01-22-2007, 21:49 KNY - G-23 - November 2006 - 3rd Gen - Blue label, has chamber-loaded indicator extractor, came with 3 mags (unusual?) Sig_NZ 01-23-2007, 04:18 I have HFMXXX Glock 19 3rd Gen. Purchased NIB 19/01/07. Has Austrian Proofs on it. Couldn't find it on your list...:sad: Dandapani 01-23-2007, 06:25 Originally posted by turtlexiv KNY - G-23 - November 2006 - 3rd Gen - Blue label, has chamber-loaded indicator extractor, came with 3 mags (unusual?) Blue Label is LEO package and the non subs, come with 3 mags. Dandapani 01-23-2007, 06:28 Originally posted by Sig_NZ I have HFMXXX Glock 19 3rd Gen. Purchased NIB 19/01/07. Has Austrian Proofs on it. Couldn't find it on your list...:sad: Thanks for submitting your NZ Glock. We don't get many overses. Unfortunately, these Glocks are hard to date because Glock outside of the USA doesn't provide the fired casing envelope. You can see that yours fills a huge gap in the sequence. I assume the other missing ones are outside the USA also. HFA - G-33 - July 2005 HFM - G-19 - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - Purchased NIB 19/01/07. New Zealand. Has Austrian Proofs HFR - G-17 - May 2005 - 3rd Gen. HFT - G-17L - July 2005 HFU - G-26 - June 2005 HFU - G-17L - July 2005 HFV - G-19 - July 2005 HFW - G-19 - June 2005 HFX - G-21 - June 2005 - 3rd Gen. I would assume yours is in the May/June/July 2005 range. rk246 01-23-2007, 23:48 Glock 30- CZT3xx- 1/1/99 thurn55 01-24-2007, 20:59 Called Smyrna..., DVA - G-21 - July 2000 - 3rd Gen. My three other Glocks were listed already:thumbsup: Dandapani 01-25-2007, 04:49 Originally posted by thurn55 Called Smyrna..., DVA - G-21 - July 2000 - 3rd Gen. My three other Glocks were listed already:thumbsup: Perfect cut and paste! :thumbsup: Thanks! GypsyBill 01-25-2007, 14:33 AMExxx US G23 June 1, 1993 First GLOCK, first post. Purchased 15 Jan '07 basically in excellent cond.. got all the normal stuff that comes with one purchased new in 1993. Hummer 01-25-2007, 14:41 ENK - G27 - December 2001 - (12/17/2001) purchased US May 2002. dmobrien2001, from the list you posted it appears this is included in the recall. I've read through many pages here but haven't found exactly what is replaced and what procedure Glock is using, so I have some questions. (Thinking more info would be useful before I call Smyrna). Is Glock replacing the entire lower receiver, all polymer and metal parts? It seems that a number of receiver parts have been upgraded since the beginning of the recall so would the replaced frame include the most recent renditions? Since I see no apparent defects do you think there might be an advantage in waiting on the upgrade? How is Glock handling these recalls, do I ship the whole pistol, slide, mags, box and all, or do they simply mail a new frame? Thanks, Hummer Firehawk 01-25-2007, 15:23 G23 KNYXXX NOV 17,2006 Purchased NIB 1/25/07 Dandapani 01-25-2007, 16:15 Originally posted by Hummer ENK - G27 - December 2001 - (12/17/2001) purchased US May 2002. dmobrien2001, from the list you posted it appears this is included in the recall. I've read through many pages here but haven't found exactly what is replaced and what procedure Glock is using, so I have some questions. (Thinking more info would be useful before I call Smyrna). Is Glock replacing the entire lower receiver, all polymer and metal parts? It seems that a number of receiver parts have been upgraded since the beginning of the recall so would the replaced frame include the most recent renditions? Since I see no apparent defects do you think there might be an advantage in waiting on the upgrade? How is Glock handling these recalls, do I ship the whole pistol, slide, mags, box and all, or do they simply mail a new frame? Read this page and call Glock. http://www.gssfonline.com/hot_topics/framerails.htm From others reports you send the entire pistol to Glock when they have your replacement receiver available. They will ensure your receiver (and entire Glock model) is up to the latest updates. If you have installed custom parts yourself, replace them with the stock items before returning or else they may not be returned (nightsights seem to be the exception). Others elect to wait until the unlikely event of a frame rail failure. So far all reported failures I've read have been discovered while cleaning after a range session with no stoppage during the session. Your call. Hummer 01-25-2007, 16:37 Thanks! You're doing good work. :thumbsup: geocd 01-26-2007, 20:16 I haven't found this particular serial number listed. Anyone know when a G23 with serial number GBCxxx was made? Thanks! Dandapani 01-26-2007, 21:02 Originally posted by geocd I haven't found this particular serial number listed. Anyone know when a G23 with serial number GBCxxx was made? Thanks! This is relatively new. How come you don't know when it was made? Are you outside the USA? Do you live in NY, MD or CA? If not, then look for the little brown envelope containing two fired cartridge casings and post the date on the envelope. If you live in NY, MD, or CA, then call Glock in Smyrna and ask them. From our submitted data, I would estimate your's was made around Feb/March 2004. GAZ - G-22 - March 2004 - 3rd Gen. GBB - G-23 - February 2004 - 3rd Gen. GBD - G-27 - March 2004 GBE - G-30 - May 2004 - - LCI geocd 01-26-2007, 21:32 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 This is relatively new. How come you don't know when it was made? Are you outside the USA? Do you live in NY, MD or CA? If not, then look for the little brown envelope containing two fired cartridge casings and post the date on the envelope. If you live in NY, MD, or CA, then call Glock in Smyrna and ask them. From our submitted data, I would estimate your's was made around Feb/March 2004. The reason is (1) I bought it used from a family member and it did not include the little brown envelope or anything else that I can find to tell me the date, and (2) I haven't found the time yet to call Glock and ask. I will give Glock a call sometime and ask (unless someone else here knows). Thanks for the information. At least I know the approximate time frame. darkarchangel 01-26-2007, 21:48 g30 kpl dec 06 FlaGlock36 01-27-2007, 11:37 My new G17: KTPxxx , Jan 5, 2007 Tech: Ryan Nicks 2 down more to go.... dgsamsoil 01-28-2007, 18:50 First.... Many sincere thank you's for all of your effort assembling this information. I once tried a similar project gathering serial numbers on some unrelated items, nowhere near this much volume, and it was a mess. So I and others truly appeciate what you're doing. Second... More than two dozen pieces I won't list verified that your data is spot on! Third... Here are some 10mm's I'll list now. I'll get some more info uploaded soon. Serial Number Model Number CDAxxx G-20 "c" Compensated CHAxxx G-29 EPZxxx G-29 Thanks Again. If I read correctly, My G-20, serial number EKYxxx is a "recall" candidate? dgsamsoil 01-28-2007, 18:55 CNGxxx G-30 CZKxxx G-21 dgsamsoil 01-28-2007, 19:15 Okay.... Here's a wierd G-22. Slide and Barrel are marked HNWxxx BUT, Frame (firearm) is stamped G19xxx. History of this pistol... Originally issued to Indiana State Police. ISP had FTF issues, and ultimately decided to get rid of the G-22, and opted for 9mm 17s instead. Kiesler's Police Supply (So. Indiana) bought up most, if not all of these. Mine, and other's like it I've seen all had 3 Hi Cap Mags, new Clamshell box, Glock Night Sights. The WHITE sticker on the Clamshell box reads "REBUILT", whatever that means?? From talking with several ISP, the magazines were always suspected to be the problem. Of course, Glock maintained it was the ammunitition (Speer Gold Dot), even though the FTF occurred with several manufacturers ammo, and only FTF using certain magazines. Probably at least 350 of these type of "rebuilt" ISP re-issues will be out there.... DGS Dandapani 01-28-2007, 19:20 Originally posted by dgsamsoil Okay.... Here's a wierd G-22. Slide and Barrel are marked HNWxxx BUT, Frame (firearm) is stamped G19xxx. http://www.glockfaq.com/markings.htm#replacement "Gnnn..." frame is a replacement frame. dgsamsoil 01-28-2007, 19:25 DTBxxx G-32 FKXxxx G-35 Blue Label LEO w/ 5# Connector; Tru Dot N/Sites. Dandapani 01-28-2007, 19:26 Originally posted by dgsamsoil If I read correctly, My G-20, serial number EKYxxx is a "recall" candidate? Only Glock can tell you for sure. Call them. As far as your others you posted, this is the best I can do dating them with TG. I'll record them in our DB. CDA - G-20C - Unknown - - TG dates uncomped G20 as 4/1/1997 CHA - G-29 - June 1997 CNG - G-30 - December 1997 CZK - G-21 - Unknown - - TG could not find a date We already have an EPZ. The date listed is: EPZ - G-29 - May 2002 dgsamsoil 01-28-2007, 19:47 Thanks again Dan... You saved me from asking about the Lnnnnn stamped on the 40 barrel that came with G-32 357sig. You are the MAN! Many thanks! DGS Dandapani 01-28-2007, 19:49 Originally posted by dgsamsoil DTBxxx G-32 FKXxxx G-35 Blue Label LEO w/ 5# Connector; Tru Dot N/Sites. DTB - G-32 - May 2000 FKX - G-35 - Unknown - - Blue Label LEO w/ 5# Connector; Tru Dot N/Sites. Dandapani 01-28-2007, 19:50 Originally posted by dgsamsoil Thanks again Dan... You saved me from asking about the Lnnnnn stamped on the 40 barrel that came with G-32 357sig. You are the MAN! "I stand on the shoulders of giants..." ynot 01-29-2007, 13:27 HYR G-22 NO BROWN ENVELOPE the box says rebuilt. traded for it at a gun show this weekend. looks like it has never been fired. came with all the paperwork from glock, glock nite sights,light rail. thanks Dandapani 01-29-2007, 14:29 Originally posted by ynot HYR G-22 NO BROWN ENVELOPE the box says rebuilt. traded for it at a gun show this weekend. looks like it has never been fired. came with all the paperwork from glock, glock nite sights,light rail. thanks Fairly new to have been rebuilt. HYL - G-19 - April 2006 HYN - G-35 - February 2006 HYR - G-22 - Unknown - - rebuilt, looks like it has never been fired, all paperwork, nite sights HYS - G-22 - February 2006 HYT - G-23 - March 2006 - 3rd Gen. sgtred 01-29-2007, 14:51 ADH 4XX US - G-19 - 2nd Gen - Receipt with it says it was purchased 7/17/97 from B&S Wholesale INC in Garland TX. TopGlock Dates it 9/1/92. myglockisa23 01-29-2007, 18:38 G17 AF 901 GTF barrel code....(Jul 84) AS NEW condition, in correct box, handling marks from storage in factory box. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/dwaine/P1010096.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/dwaine/AF90x.jpg Dandapani 01-29-2007, 20:09 Originally posted by myglockisa23 G17 AF 901 GTF barrel code....(Jul 84) AS NEW condition, in correct box, handling marks from storage in factory box. Nice 1st Gen. Adjustable sights! TG dates it as 1/1/1986. Our database says: AF - G-17 - January 1986 - 1st Gen. - 1st 1000 Glocks imported, GTF (7/84) ynot 01-30-2007, 10:14 Originally posted by ynot HYR G-22 NO BROWN ENVELOPE the box says rebuilt. traded for it at a gun show this weekend. looks like it has never been fired. came with all the paperwork from glock, glock nite sights,light rail. thanks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fairly new to have been rebuilt. called glock this morning. HYR G-22 March 2006 Glock folks said it was returned from a law enforcement agency, that is why it had the rebuilt sticker on the box. they checked it out and shipped it to a dealer. (glock folks were very helpful) Dandapani 01-30-2007, 11:45 Originally posted by ynot called glock this morning. HYR G-22 March 2006 Glock folks said it was returned from a law enforcement agency, that is why it had the rebuilt sticker on the box. they checked it out and shipped it to a dealer. (glock folks were very helpful) Thanks. Gotta love Glocks with a history. You have a keeper! mike4784 02-01-2007, 18:43 G23 - KCDXXX - Purchased 12/06 No envelope - Case says HI-Cap but came with 2 10rd (NY). Any info on BOD? Dandapani 02-01-2007, 19:13 Originally posted by mike4784 G23 - KCDXXX - Purchased 12/06 No envelope - Case says HI-Cap but came with 2 10rd (NY). Any info on BOD? I would say May 2006. BTW: your dealer kept the "envelope"... :) KCA - G-22 - May 2006 KCE - G-23 - May 2006 KCG - G-23 - May 2006 - 3rd Gen. KCH - G-26 - May 2006 KCK - G-26 - June 2006 KCL - G-27 - May 2006 - - Blue Tag LEO geocd 02-01-2007, 23:09 I called Glock today and got the information I was looking for... GBCxxx Imported on Feb 20, 2004 Glock 23 w/ 13rd mags x 2 3rd Generation Frame Shoots like a pro! I really love this gun! Cheers, Cliff mike4784 02-02-2007, 00:22 CWM - G26 - Unknown Dandapani 02-02-2007, 03:48 Originally posted by mike4784 CWM - G26 - Unknown Date per TopGlock: CWM - G-26 - October 1998 dj1540 02-02-2007, 22:42 Went to Glock this afternoon to get my g19 frame recall done, took about 50mins and was out... thanks for the info on the recall. J T 02-03-2007, 17:50 KTS - G-19 - January 2007 - 3rd Gen. Born on Jan 19, 2007; only 15 days old! :supergrin: Dandapani 02-03-2007, 18:08 Originally posted by J T KTS - G-19 - January 2007 - 3rd Gen. Born on Jan 19, 2007; only 15 days old! :supergrin: :milestone: Highest Serial Number Recorded! :thumbsup: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: Atrax 02-05-2007, 11:30 HZF - G19 - purchased 2006-10-26 (Europe) Dandapani 02-05-2007, 11:56 Originally posted by Atrax HZF - G19 - purchased 2006-10-26 (Europe) Thanks. Always appreciate non-USA Glock serial numbers. Yours falls into the April-July 2006 time frame. HZA - G-34 - July 2006 - 3rd Gen. - OD Green HZA - G-36 - June 2006 - - Frame marked: MADE IN AUSTRIA/GLOCK, INC., SMYRNA, GA. HZF - G-19 - Unknown - - purchased 2006-10-26 (Europe) HZK - G-17 - April 2006 - 3rd Gen. HZL - G-17 - April 2006 - - LCI Atrax 02-05-2007, 14:59 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 Thanks. Always appreciate non-USA Glock serial numbers. Yours falls into the April-July 2006 time frame. Don't mention it :thumbsup: Thanks for the info on the production date! ahb 02-05-2007, 19:07 FFH - G-36 - 2003 J T 02-05-2007, 21:22 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 :milestone: Highest Serial Number Recorded! :thumbsup: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: Cool! What do I win? :supergrin: Jeff82 02-06-2007, 01:24 Originally posted by J T Cool! What do I win? :supergrin: The proud satisfaction of being a Glock owner. :) tomahawk66 02-06-2007, 09:54 I am trying to obtain additional information on a G-22 I recently purchased. I did not find it listed. CGLxxx - G-22 - 2nd Gen - D.P.A. Police (on slide) Dated 5/1997 (according to TG) (6/1997 according to Glock) I would like to know what the "D.P.A" stands for. Dandapani 02-06-2007, 10:14 Originally posted by tomahawk66 I am trying to obtain additional information on a G-22 I recently purchased. I did not find it listed. CGLxxx - G-22 - 2nd Gen - D.P.A. Police (on slide) Dated 5/1997 (according to TG) (6/1997 according to Glock) I would like to know what the "D.P.A" stands for. http://www.dallaspa.org/ perhaps? tomahawk66 02-06-2007, 11:00 I am checking with them, but have not yet received a response. Thanks for your help. If you have any other ideas let me know. CORBON 02-10-2007, 00:39 G-22 OD Green born on date Dec.15 2006 KLT*** South Fla 02-10-2007, 00:59 Originally posted by tomahawk66 I am trying to obtain additional information on a G-22 I recently purchased. I did not find it listed. CGLxxx - G-22 - 2nd Gen - D.P.A. Police (on slide) Dated 5/1997 (according to TG) (6/1997 according to Glock) I would like to know what the "D.P.A" stands for. I don't know if this helps out or not, but I know that there was a police department in Kenton County, Kentucky that was the Dixie Police Authority. They have changed their name to the Crescent Springs Police, but I am not sure when. Call Glock. They probably can tell you who that gun was sold to since they stamped D.P.A. on it. Tmoney33 02-13-2007, 11:26 KFFxxx July 13, 2006 G23 just picked it up last night- my first Glock! ept000 02-13-2007, 11:38 DZxxx G-19 2nd Gen. Slide stamped BOSTON PD cocked@locked 02-13-2007, 11:56 i have g19 fkf xxx 2003 april no "us" suffix Dandapani 02-13-2007, 12:01 Originally posted by ept000 DZxxx G-19 2nd Gen. Slide stamped BOSTON PD TopGlock dates it: February 1989 GlockOpsFool 02-14-2007, 14:00 KMN - G-23 - October 11, 2006 - 3rd Gen. Dandapani 02-14-2007, 14:21 Originally posted by GlockOpsFool My brand new G23 has Serial #KMN-XXX Can't get it to appear on any of the glock dating tools. Must be THAT new. You live in a Free State. Look in the paperwork for the little brown envelope containing the two fired cartridge casings. What is the date on that envelope? No online tools have dates newer than DXY. Most of ours are from owner submitted dates. ETA: From our list: KMB - G-19 - October 2006 - 3rd Gen. KMC - G-26 - October 2006 - 3rd Gen. - Blue Label Clamshell KMF - G-22 - October 2006 - 3rd Gen. KMS - G-23 - November 2006 - 3rd Gen. - Frame says Made in Austria KMT - G-23 - November 2006 - 3rd Gen. KMU - G-26 - October 2006 - 3rd Gen. KMV - G-26 - November 2006 - 3rd Gen. KMW - G-27 - September 2006 - 3rd Gen. KMX - G-27 - October 2006 - - blue label Your's should be in the Oct/Nov 2006 timeframe. GlockOpsFool 02-14-2007, 16:15 *deleted* see 2 posts above 87vert 02-14-2007, 17:16 just picked up a G23C NIB serial: HBFXXX date: 4/28/05 3rd gen, has Polygon next to glock on barrel. also has the chamber indicator. elo 02-14-2007, 22:23 KNZxxx - G-23 - Nov29/2006 - 3rd Gen. ahb 02-14-2007, 23:49 I posted mine already, but its Unknown. Found my yellow envelope, with the date. If you could edit it in the list FFH - G-36 - Unknown - - 2003 its: FFH - G-36 - 3/3/2003 Still dont know what gen it is though if anyone knows. Dandapani 02-15-2007, 06:10 Originally posted by ahb I posted mine already, but its Unknown. Found my yellow envelope, with the date. If you could edit it in the list its: FFH - G-36 - 3/3/2003 Still dont know what gen it is though if anyone knows. Finger grooves? 3rd Gen. ahb 02-15-2007, 08:23 Yep, Finger grooves, 3rd gen. Thanks ryan_kalani 02-15-2007, 18:34 Just got a G19 that reads KETXXX with a "1" in between the Glock logo and the pentagon on the barrel. What's up with the "1"? The barrel has a super slick finish to it compared the last Glock I bought back in 1999. Dandapani 02-15-2007, 19:26 Originally posted by ryan_kalani Just got a G19 that reads KETXXX with a "1" in between the Glock logo and the pentagon on the barrel. What's up with the "1"? The barrel has a super slick finish to it compared the last Glock I bought back in 1999. The "1" barrel is the new G19 barrel design. Some say it was a change in the lock up angle to fix the mysterious NYPD "phase 3" lock ups when using Gold Dot ammo.... All "new" G19's have the "1" barrel designation. You wouldn't happen to have the little brown envelope containing the two fired cartridge casings? What's the date on that envelope? ETA: Your dealer probably kept it seeing as you are in CA. scoops 02-15-2007, 19:26 i have a 17 1st gen. i bought it in 1991 from a friend of a friend. the gun was supposed to have been bought in california in 1986 n i b. it had adjustable sights on it when i got it, but your log says nothing bout that. just wondering if they were supposed to b on there or someone put them on the gun after they bought it. also, what does the # after the letters mean. is that how many of that specific prefix was made, ex. aa 345 means the 345th aa pistol made? just trying to figure out my gun specifically? thanks. Dandapani 02-15-2007, 19:31 Originally posted by scoops i have a 17 1st gen. i bought it in 1991 from a friend of a friend. the gun was supposed to have been bought in california in 1986 n i b. it had adjustable sights on it when i got it, but your log says nothing bout that. just wondering if they were supposed to b on there or someone put them on the gun after they bought it. also, what does the # after the letters mean. is that how many of that specific prefix was made, ex. aa 345 means the 345th aa pistol made? just trying to figure out my gun specifically? thanks. You need to contact Glock to determine if it went out of their door with adjustable sights. The numbers after the alpha prefix indicate the numeric sequence in that serials. AA000 - AA999 for example. Some debate on whether they issue "000". What is your alpha prefix? We can date it for you. ryan_kalani 02-16-2007, 05:04 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 The "1" barrel is the new G19 barrel design. Some say it was a change in the lock up angle to fix the mysterious NYPD "phase 3" lock ups when using Gold Dot ammo.... All "new" G19's have the "1" barrel designation. You wouldn't happen to have the little brown envelope containing the two fired cartridge casings? What's the date on that envelope? ETA: Your dealer probably kept it seeing as you are in CA. Thanks for the info. I have the 2 casings in an envelope dated July 2006. The barrel has a small degree ramp on the front top exterior where it locks up to the slide as well as having a finish that I have yet to see(very smooth, gloss black coating/finish). jpshaw 02-16-2007, 10:44 FGL G27 3rd Gen LRI Extractor No US in Ser. number Imported 2/12/03 Casings 3/12/03 GMR G19 3rd Gen LRI Extractor No US in Ser. number Imported 8/25/04 Casings 10/06/04 Bought 10/14/04 YosemiteSam357 02-16-2007, 11:54 BKM - G-17 - May 1, 1995 - 2nd gen DSV - G-21C - May 1, 2000 - 3rd gen - "US" in serial # Dvo628 02-16-2007, 14:34 KSAxxx, Glock 17 3rd Gen, Feb 6, 2007 BB22 02-18-2007, 11:57 Update for KDSxxx : Frame is Autrian Dandapani 02-18-2007, 15:22 Originally posted by BB22 Update for KDSxxx : Frame is Autrian Thanks. FYI: so far, the only reported US frames are the large sized ones, G17, G22, etc. codecowboy 02-18-2007, 21:15 GYxxx G-17 September 1989 - 2nd Gen. - has Austrian markings Bought it rebuilt from a gunstore in August of '99. Fatty Dingdongs 02-19-2007, 04:59 CNZxxxUS G-26 1/1/1998 IRedWing 02-19-2007, 10:44 G22 KNUxxx Date Brass Collected: Nov 14/2006 Frame: Made in Austria KMA XXX 02-19-2007, 12:09 G-19 KMAxxx Oct 2006, 3rd gen, made in austria, new contour finger grooves, 1 and pentagon on barrel. G-17 KSAxxx Feb 2007, 3rd gen, no made in austria on frame. So do all G-22s and G-17s in the US now have US made frames? Dandapani 02-19-2007, 15:30 Originally posted by KMA XXX So do all G-22s and G-17s in the US now have US made frames? ALL? Dunno. Still seems to me to be a mixed bag or folks aren't reporting... ryan_kalani 02-19-2007, 15:58 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 ALL? Dunno. Still seems to me to be a mixed bag or folks aren't reporting... My DKM G22 made in November 1999 does. glockk9mm 02-19-2007, 21:22 I was just reading from the begining and noticed that the g36 with serial # EUM has a frame recall.I have a matching serial #. I have shot about 300rnds through it since I bought it way back, with no problems. Should I send it to glock? What is wrong with the frame?What should I look for? Dandapani 02-20-2007, 05:07 Originally posted by glockk9mm I was just reading from the begining and noticed that the g36 with serial # EUM has a frame recall.I have a matching serial #. I have shot about 300rnds through it since I bought it way back, with no problems. Should I send it to glock? What is wrong with the frame?What should I look for? 1) Call Glock to confirm the "recall", er, "upgrade" diagnosis. Read this page for info: http://www.gssfonline.com/hot_topics/framerails.htm 2) Many don't worry about it and just shoot it until when/if it breaks. The failure is not catastrophic. Many owners don't even know a rail is broken until they clean their Glock after a successful range session. Some owners instead of paying for shipment to replace the frame before a failure wait until the failure and convince Glock they need to pay the return shipment. opzero 02-20-2007, 19:49 Glock29, KSY*** JAN 23, 2007. Squid699 02-21-2007, 18:10 G21 3rd gen with LCI HGZxxx 7/25/2005 RetailNinja 02-21-2007, 18:25 My old Glock 35 was a GSS757 the database says it should be a G22. Dandapani 02-21-2007, 19:01 Originally posted by RetailNinja My old Glock 35 was a GSSxxx the database says it should be a G22. The datebase never prescribes the model. It only records what owners have found. Now you found that GSS can also be a G35 which isn't surprising since there is no difference between a G22 and a G35 when it comes to the frame. Do you have a born on date (or cartridge collection date) from the little brown envelope containing two fired casings? GSD17 02-22-2007, 14:14 Got a new one for ya. FGN - G35 - Unknown - Purchased 2-22-07 3rd gen frame(factory refurb) latham44 02-22-2007, 16:02 HVWxxx - G-23 - January 2006 - 3rd Gen Purchased new 2-22-07:banana: Dandapani 02-22-2007, 18:15 Originally posted by latham44 HVWxxx - G-23 - January 2006 - 3rd Gen Purchased new 2-22-07:banana: Where did you find a NIB year old Glock? Anyway, congrats! GSD17 02-23-2007, 11:48 HL - G-17 - Unknown - 2nd Gen. - Austrian Proofs Dandapani 02-23-2007, 13:46 Originally posted by GSD17 HL - G-17 - Unknown - 2nd Gen. - Austrian Proofs Per TG: HL - G-17 - October 1989 - 2nd Gen. - Austrian Proofs latham44 02-23-2007, 16:00 Sorry for two posts in a row, but I can't delete this.:brickwall: latham44 02-23-2007, 16:01 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 Where did you find a NIB year old Glock? Anyway, congrats! MC Sporting Goods Northwest Ohio desmobob 02-23-2007, 20:06 BDR *** US G-22 born 12/01/94 according to TopGlock. Good shooting, desmobob johnb138 02-24-2007, 13:07 I have a gen 2 G17 Serial number AVXxxxUS. was made on april fools day 1994 4-1-1994 tuffie226 02-25-2007, 09:28 G19 KKT*** -envelope says 10 OCT 06 EX CATM 02-25-2007, 15:03 G34 serial number starts with HWE born on Jan 30 2006. curiousgeorge21 02-25-2007, 15:12 Picked up a gen 1 17 model CK are the first letters , but after the numbers there is some letters that looks like NP, with a small V right under the P. after that are 3 letters, pty(these are all on the barrel) The frame has the serial #, a bird design, and the NP small v confriguation. Any ideas???? Dandapani 02-25-2007, 15:41 Originally posted by curiousgeorge21 Picked up a gen 1 17 model CK are the first letters , but after the numbers there is some letters that looks like NP, with a small V right under the P. after that are 3 letters, pty(these are all on the barrel) The frame has the serial #, a bird design, and the NP small v confriguation. Any ideas???? From our database: CK - G-17 - October 1987 - 1st Gen. - Austrian markings For the markings: http://www.glockfaq.com/markings.htm#austrian SMOKEin 02-25-2007, 17:05 hmmm my g30 starts with FLS... your list says its a G20... didnt read the 60+ pages to see if its been reported already... Dandapani 02-25-2007, 18:27 Originally posted by SMOKEin hmmm my g30 starts with FLS... your list says its a G20... didnt read the 60+ pages to see if its been reported already... 1) The first page is the compilation of all the reported serial numbers from the 60+ pages so that you don't have to read them. 2) As stated in a few posts above, the list only records what has been reported. And there are a few instances of different models starting with the same alpha prefix. Doesn't mean the list is wrong, just no one has reported a different model along with that prefix. I'll add yours. 3) Have you the date from the fired cartridge envelope, otherwise, it will have to be reported as unknown. Ltfive 02-25-2007, 19:11 KKU G-20 Oct 2006 3rd Gen Picked it up today after the ten day wait. :banana: :banana: IAMArms 02-25-2007, 21:30 Checked out my G17 here, Topglock, and Glockfaq. can't find it. HYE XXX Found HY and HYF. Any ideas? Sig_NZ 02-26-2007, 02:50 I have the barrel from a Gen 2 G20. The frame and slide are somewhere else unknown. Serial SCXXX proofs are Austrian, purchased in New Zealand early 1990's. Date code on the top of barrel states 'LOW' which translates to a test fire date of Feb 1991. Very iiinteresting! :thumbsup: Dandapani 02-26-2007, 04:52 Originally posted by IAMArms Checked out my G17 here, Topglock, and Glockfaq. can't find it. HYE XXX Found HY and HYF. Any ideas? Again, the online daters only date Glocks with prefixes DXZ and before (AA-ZZ, AAA-DXZ). Your's is too new being HYE. From our database, we can estimate it: HXN - G-35 - March 2006 HYF - G-17 - March 2006 HYG - G-19 - March 2006 I would put HYE as March 2006. Dandapani 02-26-2007, 04:58 Originally posted by Sig_NZ I have the barrel from a Gen 2 G20. The frame and slide are somewhere else unknown. Serial SCXXX proofs are Austrian, purchased in New Zealand early 1990's. Date code on the top of barrel states 'LOW' which translates to a test fire date of Feb 1991. Very iiinteresting! :thumbsup: "SC" isn't dated in our list, only as "Unknown". The online dating programs don't show SC/G20 either. From our database: SC - G-20 - Unknown - 2nd Gen. SE - G-22 - December 1990 - 2nd Gen. SF - G-22 - February 1991 - 2nd Gen SL - G-23 - February 1991 - 2nd Gen. SM - G-23 - December 1991 - 2nd Gen. SP - G-17 - December 1990 SR - G-17 - December 1990 - 2nd Gen. - dark finish on internal parts such as ejector and trigger bar ST - G-17L - January 1991 - 2nd Gen. - has Austrian markings SY - G-19 - December 1990 SZ - G-19 - January 1991 The Sx's bounce around quite a bit, including the Feb '91 date, which fits your "purchased in New Zealand early 1990's" timeframe pretty well. aaronrkelly 02-26-2007, 08:45 FXM - G19 December 1st 2003 poison7fl 02-26-2007, 15:30 KWC - G-23 - February 19, 2007 BAM! 7 days old.. poison7fl 02-26-2007, 15:33 Delete - Double post Dandapani 02-26-2007, 16:02 Originally posted by poison7fl KWC - G-23 - February 19, 2007 BAM! 7 days old.. HIGHEST RECORDED SERIAL PREFIX! :number1: :milestone: :thumbsup: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: IAMArms 02-26-2007, 16:13 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 Again, the online daters only date Glocks with prefixes DXZ and before (AA-ZZ, AAA-DXZ). Your's is too new being HYE. From our database, we can estimate it: I would put HYE as March 2006. Thanks!:thumbsup: Steve in Az 02-26-2007, 19:54 Glock 17 SN: KVLXXX Purchased 26 Feb 2007 "Made in Austria" markings Dandapani 02-27-2007, 06:21 Originally posted by Steve in Az Glock 17 SN: KVLXXX Purchased 26 Feb 2007 Sounds new. Please look in the paperwork for the little brown envelope containing two fired cartridge casings... What's the date on that envelope? mesteve2 02-27-2007, 10:23 KUAxxx Test fired January 22, 2007. Date on small envelope with brass. Purchased Feb. 20, 2007. Model 23 .40 s&w caliber. Added night sights Glock made by Mepro. $57.00 plus tax. steve Steve in Az 02-27-2007, 12:03 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 Sounds new. Please look in the paperwork for the little brown envelope containing two fired cartridge casings... What's the date on that envelope? Will do when I get home from work... karz10 02-27-2007, 15:02 How about this one? KNF Don't see it on the list yet. Searched the thread, no results for KNF. Mine is a Glock 19 - 9 MM (Ellett Brothers distributed HomeLand Defender). Cartridge envelope says Nov07/2006. It has the LCI, which was a surpise to me, I never saw one before. Mine also came with some weird Mass. stuff about the LCI and about Mass Atty Gen. comments, even though shipped from Utah NIB to SC. Any thoughts, questions? Thanks, Karz Dandapani 02-27-2007, 16:09 Originally posted by karz10 How about this one? KNF Don't see it on the list yet. Searched the thread, no results for KNF. Mine is a Glock 19 - 9 MM (Ellett Brothers distributed HomeLand Defender). Cartridge envelope says Nov07/2006. It has the LCI, which was a surpise to me, I never saw one before. Mine also came with some weird Mass. stuff about the LCI and about Mass Atty Gen. comments, even though shipped from Utah NIB to SC. Any thoughts, questions? It's not on the list because we were waiting for you to report it. Thanks KNF - G-19 - November 2006 - - LCI No need to search 60 pages as it is my duty as recorder to keep the lists updated that you find on page 1 of this thread. Are you saying your's is marked special "Homeland Defender"? All new Glocks come with LCI and have for quite some time. Many states, such as Mass, have special "safety" requirements. At some point the LCI gave Glock enough points to satisfy the entrance criteria into Mass., and a few new pistols were "imported" into Mass., but the bulldog of a State AG decided it still wasn't good enough and rescinded Glock's certification as "safe" and worthy to be allowed into Mass. What you are seeing is old documentation that was included with your Glock. karz10 02-27-2007, 16:43 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 It's not on the list because we were waiting for you to report it. Thanks KNF - G-19 - November 2006 - - LCI No need to search 60 pages as it is my duty as recorder to keep the lists updated that you find on page 1 of this thread. Are you saying your's is marked special "Homeland Defender"? Cool, I'm new here, so I was just trying to get up to speed. Yes, it's marked with HomeLand Defender, rather than muddy up your thread here, I decided to just go ahead and post an announcement thread w/ pics and history on my new piece, first gun and all, so if you go here you can see the graphics on it, and see what all it came with: http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=663197 (http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=663197) Thanks, Karz Steve in Az 02-27-2007, 19:39 KVLXXX - Glock 17 - Test fired Feb 14, 2007 - "Made in Austria" RetailNinja 02-27-2007, 19:49 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 The datebase never prescribes the model. It only records what owners have found. Now you found that GSS can also be a G35 which isn't surprising since there is no difference between a G22 and a G35 when it comes to the frame. Do you have a born on date (or cartridge collection date) from the little brown envelope containing two fired casings? the envelope just said CL3 or CP3 on it. The case said AOJ 3 516 GSD17 02-27-2007, 20:07 I got this one from the KVS - G21SF - UNKNOWN month 2007 - 3rd gen (picatinny rail) How do you reckon we are going to ID the new frames? 4th gen with picatinny? 3rd Gen with normal rail? New task Dandapani 02-27-2007, 21:11 Originally posted by RetailNinja the envelope just said CL3 or CP3 on it. The case said AOJ 3 516 The little brown envelope should look like: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Gregdog/Envelope.jpg See the date? Dandapani 02-27-2007, 21:15 Originally posted by GSD17 I got this one from the KVS - G21SF - UNKNOWN month 2007 - 3rd gen (picatinny rail) How do you reckon we are going to ID the new frames? 4th gen with picatinny? 3rd Gen with normal rail? New task Why unknown date? I recorded it as: KVS - G-21SF - Unknown - 3rd Gen. - picatinny rail Normal rail will be the norm (sic), so no need to mention it. There will be fewer of the Picatinny rails. Unless Butch suggests otherwise, I wouldn't call this a gen change. The shorter frame is a slight change, as well as the other rail design. So far, this "variation" will only apply to the 21 (and possible the 20). Just MHO. GSD17 02-27-2007, 22:10 I figured as much. No date because I just noticed the serial number off of a pic of Marks from summit gun broker. Either way, just curious about the frame gens. +1 on letting Butch sort it out ! :rofl: GSD17 02-27-2007, 22:12 oops, doubletap Stanley2 02-27-2007, 23:29 KPR - G-25 - n/a - 3rd gen - Mexico .380ACP Hello I have one Glock model 25 SN KPR-1xx hope it helps. Purchased New Nov 30 2006 Mexico City Dandapani 02-28-2007, 05:04 Originally posted by Stanley2 KPR - G-25 - n/a - 3rd gen - Mexico .380ACP Hello I have one Glock model 25 SN KPR-1xx hope it helps. Purchased New Nov 30 2006 Mexico City Thanks. Always happy to receive non-USA alpha prefix, and especially from the not-seen-in-the-USA 380's. Gracias, otro vez. Butch 02-28-2007, 11:45 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 Unless Butch suggests otherwise, I wouldn't call this a gen change. The shorter frame is a slight change, as well as the other rail design. So far, this "variation" will only apply to the 21 (and possible the 20). Just MHO. I tend to agree, especially if they don't make some of the changes standard on other models.....'variation' seems a good way to describe it. But then, we do have the generation 2.5 G20 and G21 guns, and the only thing different about them is the fact that they have no mounting rails on the dust cover. This new frame has a smaller grip, ambidextrous mag release, and the different mounting rails......maybe generation 4 is upon us. I'm thinking we should pose the question to membership on General Glocking? :patriot: Dandapani 02-28-2007, 14:50 Originally posted by Butch I tend to agree, especially if they don't make some of the changes standard on other models.....'variation' seems a good way to describe it. But then, we do have the generation 2.5 G20 and G21 guns, and the only thing different about them is the fact that they have no mounting rails on the dust cover. This new frame has a smaller grip, ambidextrous mag release, and the different mounting rails......maybe generation 4 is upon us. I'm thinking we should pose the question to membership on General Glocking? :patriot: Butch, you are Grandfather Glock as far as I'm concerned and should take the lead on this :) Go ahead and post your question for discussion over in GG. Thanks! Steve in Az 02-28-2007, 15:09 Originally posted by dmobrien2001 Sounds new. Please look in the paperwork for the little brown envelope containing two fired cartridge casings... What's the date on that envelope? Test fired: Feb 14, 2007. Dandapani 02-28-2007, 15:27 Originally posted by Steve in Az Test fired: Feb 14, 2007. Happy Valentines Day :hearts: Steve in Az 03-01-2007, 15:36 My G17 was made with love. That's cool. :hugs: hrygeek 03-02-2007, 08:53 I don't know the manufacture date but I called Glock about the frame recall. G22 SER# END-Frame Recall :brickwall: Dandapani 03-02-2007, 11:26 Originally posted by hrygeek I don't know the manufacture date but I called Glock about the frame recall. G22 SER# END-Frame Recall :brickwall: Is your G22 broken? Probably not. Just wait until it breaks and Glock will fix it. Most owners with a broken rail don't even know it until they find it during a cleaning session AFTER a successful range session. Very few actually break. Thanks for the recall confirmation. I added your entry. vBulletin® v3.7.3, Copyright ©2000-2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. | ![]() |