No support in the 6'clock position?

[TrackerUSMC]

Please inform me about the complaint about the glock .40 not having support in the 6'o Clock position. What is meant by this and are all .40 built this way?

[SlammedDime]

http://68.104.243.5:8080/gallery/d/199-1/aao.jpg

[TrackerUSMC]

Checked my model 22, I noticed that the bottom chamber area of the barrel has a half moon that doesn't support the casing of the ammunition. I checked my model 23, I observed that the casing is supported and there is not a half moon. Now why did Glock make the model 22 in this manner, More tolerance for fouling and reliability?
Or is this one the signs that the model 22 is just a modified model 17 that was beefed up to take the .40 round. Uhmmmm??? I am mystified! Atleat now I have a reason to love my compact model 23!
Thanks for the picture.:)

[SlammedDime]

How new is your 23? From what I've read, the newer .40's have slightly more case support than older ones. My 23 doesn't have complete support, but it is more than the 22 pictured.

[TrackerUSMC]

The complete casing has support. I tested my duty 22, I can see the moon shape! The casings that came with the weapon are dated 6/10/05.
Have had the pistol less than a week. I hope that the newer 22 barrels have complete support. Any gunsmiths, please advise what is the deal with case support? Why would glock not have this at the 6 o'clock position? Do most pistol calibers have complete support?

The search for the truth continues!

[AWDTerror]

Look at the pic, a lot of 40 S&W don't have support at 6oclock(moon shape). pretty much any gun that uses a browning modified action have 'partially' supported chambers. My glock 22 has it but not nearly as noticiable as the pic. It does have more support than the one pictured. But also the angle at which you look at it it may be hard to tell if it has the moon shape because your g23 may be the same but just not as noticible. I had to look really hard at my g22 to see the shape.

Glock did this to function reliably with the widest possible selection of ammunition. But, it does have a "less supported" chamber than other guns.

[TrackerUSMC]

I don't believe in exploding glocks, firing out of battery BS that is on the web. I believe that every weapon systems has weaknesses and strengths. Is there exploding glocks? Yes, any weapon that fires can explode! The reason that you should wear eye protection! Is every weapon manufactured perfect? No way JOSE! Lead bullets, reloading and defective ammunition can cause this things. I also believe in the idea that, "Figures don't lie, BUT liars do figure!!!" I am not saying that the model 22 isn't a good pistol. If it wasn't then why would police agencies use this model? No agency is going to risk putting unsafe weapons in the hands of their officers. I was just curious about the design and why their is a moon shaped part at the bottom of the 22 barrel! Double checked, my 23 barrel doesn't have a moon at all.

[AWDTerror]

i don't give into the bs either. maybe because of the design of the ramp who knows.

[cjlandry]

Originally posted by TrackerUSMC
I was just curious about the design and why their is a moon shaped part at the bottom of the 22 barrel! Double checked, my 23 barrel doesn't have a moon at all.

Have you looked at any of your fired brass?

I have a new G23 and all the brass that have been fired through it have come out with the bulge.

I haven't looked for the "half moon" in the chamber yet, but the fired brass tells the tale. This is true of factory target loads and factory defense loads. I haven't yet looked at the fired brass from my 155 gr. Double-Tap ammo, but I expect to see more of the same.

I don't consider it a problem, but I do plan to reload my brass, so I will have to deal with it.

Aftermarket barrels have full support, and I'll probably buy one just for range practice where a F2F won't cause me problems and the brass won't swell so much.

[cjlandry]

I just removed the barrel of my new G23 and looked at it with a round in the chamber. The half-moon is visible when the lighting is right, just as the G22 picture above. The test rounds were fired through mine in May of 2005, and I bought the gun in June.

Also noticeable with the barrel out of the gun is that the round has a liberal amount of "play" in the chamber.

Hasn't caused me any problems, and has probably prevented several problems.

[TrackerUSMC]

Originally posted by cjlandry
Have you looked at any of your fired brass?

I have a new G23 and all the brass that have been fired through it have come out with the bulge.

I haven't looked for the "half moon" in the chamber yet, but the fired brass tells the tale. This is true of factory target loads and factory defense loads. I haven't yet looked at the fired brass from my 155 gr. Double-Tap ammo, but I expect to see more of the same.

I don't consider it a problem, but I do plan to reload my brass, so I will have to deal with it.

Aftermarket barrels have full support, and I'll probably buy one just for range practice where a F2F won't cause me problems and the brass won't swell so much.
Nope, my brass is fine thank you! ;a

[Glock4Life]

My G23 has the lesser case support with the half moon. The reason for the half moon was not to intentionally create lesser support but rather to decrease the odds of jamming issues as the round feeds up the ramp and into the chamber. I guess it could be considered a trade-off for a pistol that will eat just about anything you feed it. As you might deduce from just looking at this area closely, the half moon only aids and assists in chambering a round smoothly as there's less resistance to the necessary angle change to 90 degrees at the point of chamber entry.