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illuminate100
08-07-2005, 18:49
I have more questions than I should...here goes another one.

I have a Panasonic MinDV Camcorder and I simply want to capture video onto my computer. I don't have any software for the camera, but I do have Nero DVD/CD software with video capturing capabilities.

Anyway, I can't get anything to work. When I plug the camera in XP recognizes new hardware, but I don't have anything to give it in terms of drivers and support. Nero doesn't recognize any devices when I use it. I went to panasonics website but as far as I can tell there's no software for this thing.

Can anyone help?

Washington,D.C.
08-07-2005, 19:21
http://www.panasonic.com/consumer_electronics/Camcorder/support.asp


PHOTOVU LINK driver version 2.10 (1051KBytes Feb/02)
For Windows 95/98/Me, Windows 2000 and Windows XP for Panasonic Palmcorder Camcorders.
For models: PV-DRS2A, PV-DV103, PV-DV53 (Windows 95 is not supported), PV-DV52, PV-DV852, PV-DV952, PV-VM202, PV-DC152, PV-DC252, PV-DC352, PV-DV101, PV-DV851, PV-DV951, PV-DV100, PV-DV200, PV-DV400, PV-DV600, and PV-DV800.

Palmcorder_USB_Driver version 3.01 (989KBytes Dec/02)
For Windows 98SE/Me, Windows 2000, and Windows XP for Panasonic Palmcorder Camcorders.
For model: PV-DV203.

PHOTOVU LINK / MPEG4 Movie Messenger version 1.011 (11851KBytes Feb/03)
For Windows 98SE/Me, Windows 2000, and Windows XP for Panasonic Palmcorder Camcorders.
For models: PV-DV203, PV-DV73, PV-DV102, PV-DV202, PV-DV402, PV-DV702, PV-DV201, PV-DV401, PV-DV601, PV-DV121, PV-DV221, PV-DV701 and PV-DV351.

Palmcorder_USB_Driver version 2.10 (946KBytes Dec/02)
For Windows 98SE/Me, Windows 2000, and Windows XP for Panasonic Palmcorder Camcorders.
For model: PV-DV73.

USBDriver 953 (1332KBytes Feb/03)
For Windows 98SE/Me, Windows 2000, and Windows XP for Panasonic Palmcorder Camcorders.
For model: PV-DV953.

USBDriver gs50 (1331KBytes Feb/03)
For Windows 98SE/Me, Windows 2000, and Windows XP for Panasonic Palmcorder Camcorders.
For models: PV-GS50S, PV-GS70.

File Converter 3.0 (1281KBytes Feb/03)
For Windows 95/98/Me, Windows 2000 and Windows XP for Panasonic Palmcorder Camcorders.
For models: PV-DV102, PV-DV202, PV-DV402, PV-DV702, PV-DV73, and PV-DV203.

Card Link Version 1.20 (1021KBytes 02/02)
For Windows 98SE/Me, Windows 2000 and Windows XP for Panasonic Palmcorder Camcorders.
For models PV-DV200, PV-DV400, PV-DV600, PV-DV800.

Card Link Version 1.20 (for USB) (1095KBytes 02/02)
For Windows 98SE/Me, Windows 2000 and Windows XP for Panasonic Palmcorder Camcorders.
For models PV-DV121, PV-DV201, PV-DV221, PV-DV401, PV-DV601, PV-DV701, PV-DV351.

Palmcorder Version 2.00 (for USB) (876KBytes 02/02)
For Windows 98SE/Me, Windows 2000, and Windows XP for Panasonic Palmcorder Camcorders.
For models PV-DV102, PV-DV202, PV-DV402, PV-DV702, PV-DV201, PV-DV401, PV-DV601,
PV-DV121, PV-DV221, PV-DV701, PV-DV351.

PhotoShot driver version 5.02 (1037KBytes Dec/02)
For Windows 95/98/Me, Windows 2000 and Windows XP.
For model PV-L453.

PhotoShot Version 5.01 (1036KBytes 02/02)
For Windows 95/98/Me, Windows NT4.0, Windows 2000 and Windows XP for Panasonic Palmcorder Camcorders.
For models PV-L452, PV-L652.

PhotoShot Version 4.10 (1038KBytes 2/02)
For Windows 98SE/Me, Windows 2000 and Windows XP for Panasonic Palmcorder Camcorders
For models PV-L671, PV-L691, PV-L751, PV-L781.

PhotoShot Version 3.20 (1038KBytes 2/02)
For Windows 98SE/Me, Windows 2000 and Windows XP for Panasonic Palmcorder Camcorders.
For models PV-L750, PV-L770, PV-L780, PV-L850.

PhotoVu Link / MPEG4 Movie Messenger Version 1.01 (11918KBytes 02/02)
For Windows 98SE/Me,Windows 2000, and Windows XP for Panasonic Palmcorder Camcorders.
For models PV-DV102, PV-DV202, PV-DV402, PV-DV702, PV-DV201, PV-DV401, PV-DV601, PV-DV121, PV-DV221, PV-DV701, PV-DV351.

PhotoShot Driver Version 3.00 (844KB; 1/00)
For Windows 95/98.
For models PV-L750, PV-L770, PV-L780, PV-L850.

PhotoVu Link Driver Version 1.10 (733KB; 5/00)
For Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 2000.
For model PV-DV100.

PhotoVu Link Driver Version 1.00 (732MB; 1/00)
For Windows 95/98.
For model PV-DV100.

PhotoVu and Card Link Driver Version 1.01 (978KB; 3/00)
For Windows 95/98.
For models PV-DV200, PV-DV400, PV-DV600, PV-DV800.

PhotoVu and Card Link Driver Version 1.11 (894KB; 5/00)
For Windows NT4.0 and Windows 2000.
For models PV-DV200, PV-DV400, PV-DV600, PV-DV800.

PhotoShot Driver Version 3.10 (759KB; 5/00)
For Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 2000.
For models PV-L750, PV-L780 and PV-L850.

PhotoShot Driver Version 2.03 (800KB; 11/00)
For Windows NT 4.0, Windows 2000 and Windows XP.
For models PV-L858, PV-L958, PV-L759, PV-L859, PV-L959 and PV-L779.

PhotoShot Driver Version 2.02 (896KB; 4/99)
For Windows NT.
For models PV-759, PV-L779, PV-L859, PV-L858, PV-L958.

PhotoShot Driver Version 2.01 (922K; 5/99)
For Windows 95/98.
For models PV-L759, PV-L779, PV-L859, PV-L858, PV-L958.

PhotoShot Driver Version 1.0 (846KB; 6/98)
For Windows 95.
For models PV-L858 and PV-L958.


http://www.panasonic.com/consumer_electronics/live_manuals/default.asp


Note the manual is also online.

PV-DV102 3-in-1 Palmcorder® MultiCam™ Camcorder

in short read the file descriptions, you can use the XD card slot and a reader, or a RS232 interface, or a firewire conection or a usb conection.


PHOTOVU LINK / MPEG4 Movie Messenger version 1.011 (11851KBytes Feb/03)
For Windows 98SE/Me, Windows 2000, and Windows XP for Panasonic Palmcorder Camcorders.
For models: PV-DV203, PV-DV73, PV-DV102, PV-DV202, PV-DV402, PV-DV702, PV-DV201, PV-DV401, PV-DV601, PV-DV121, PV-DV221, PV-DV701 and PV-DV351.


File Converter 3.0 (1281KBytes Feb/03)
For Windows 95/98/Me, Windows 2000 and Windows XP for Panasonic Palmcorder Camcorders.
For models: PV-DV102, PV-DV202, PV-DV402, PV-DV702, PV-DV73, and PV-DV203.


Palmcorder Version 2.00 (for USB) (876KBytes 02/02)
For Windows 98SE/Me, Windows 2000, and Windows XP for Panasonic Palmcorder Camcorders.
For models PV-DV102, PV-DV202, PV-DV402, PV-DV702, PV-DV201, PV-DV401, PV-DV601,
PV-DV121, PV-DV221, PV-DV701, PV-DV351.



ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/pub/Panasonic/Drivers/capture/M4-MMessenger1_01.exe

illuminate100
08-07-2005, 23:37
Awesome! I am downloading the software as I type this...although I did some searcing on the web and found someone else who had the same problem `and their only solution was to buy a graphics card with firewire capability, but it seems to me that this is not necessary. We'll see. Thanks though, you continue to be a bastion of information and aid to me in this forum.
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Panasonic
MiniDV PalmCorder PV-DV102D over a USB hookup so I can transcribe the
contents of a dv tape onto a dvd. The software provided by Panasonic and
the software I've downloaded refuse to recognize it. WinXP, with all its
latest bells and whistles, just keeps saying "unknown usb device."
Panasonic keeps saying that it should work and charged me $22 for a cd of
the software which didn't work!
One good thing came out of all this -- I upgraded my motherboard bios and
smoothed over a few other developing problems with usb 2.0.
Does anyone have any ideas to offer?







Jark
Posted Feb 22, 2005 11:16:03
Subject: Re: usb recognition of dv camera

Guest



As promised -- I ran out and bought me a firewire card, installed it, and
successfully transferred the full contents of a dv tape. I bought the only
card I could find: a Belkin, at Staples for $50 with cable. There was no
problem with my motherboard, and I had updated my bios and chipset in
anticipation (solved some other developing problems as well).

Some explanation: this is not my camera -- it belongs to a dance studio,
and among the video shots is one that must be transferred to a dvd and
mailed to a man's daughter in Florida so that they can wow their friends and
neighbors at some father/daughter dance when she comes to Chicago next
month.

I am very impressed with the amount and quality of help that I received from
all of you. Thank you very much.
Tim (aka Jark)





"Jark" |timcole([at]colescorner.com| said
ipednZAGWr7qgIffRVn-tw([at]comcast.com...
| Thanks -- you guys have been a big help!
| I'm runnin' downtown to buy me a firewire card and cable (got paid
| yesterday)
| I'll post my success or failure here.
|
|
|
|
|
| "nap" |gospam([at]yourself.com| said
| NKnSd.2353$OU1.1168([at]newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
|| yes. a PCI fw card will work fine.
||
|| If you are on XP SP2 USB2.0 has been mangled on that release of the
|| servie pack.
||
|| Also, as a nother poster said,,, USB is only for stills.
|| "Jark" |timcole([at]colescorner.com| said
|| FcydnQubsdqMZ4TfRVn-iw([at]comcast.com...
||| Thanks, Mark, Mike, and Tim. I looked long and hard at firewire, but
||| I'm not sure if my board supports it -- or does it just require a
||| pci-card path to the bus? I checked out my mb's specs and found that
||| there is no 1394 connection, but it was provided on the very next mb
||| revision.
||| Will a firewire card work in a board not completely designed for it?


Unfortunately you have found your way into a problem caused by a
communtications gap in the world of digital video. Please, take the time to
read your camcorder manual very carefully beginning on page 43. This chapter
is labeled "Editing Features" should I have the page number wrong. Then also
read the section labeled "Card (Optional) Features. Once you have read these
sections you will probably see more clearly why the tech's at Panasonic did
not clearly understand your needs.

Many camcorders have the optional memory card feature. These cards have the
ability to store still images in perhaps two or more different resolutions,
plus the ability to record short MPEG movie sequences. The basic terminology
used by most consumers to describe these MPEG sequences is "My Movies" - as
I did by calling them 'short MPEG movie sequences". It is also commonplace
to term the recordings to the video cassette "My Movies". Should you call
technical support with the description "I cannot download my movies over the
USB connection" it is only natural for the tech to assume you are meaning
those MPEG sequences from the memory card. I blame your situaition on the
tech for not clarifying the true nature of your problem by asking a few
simple questions concerning the source of "your movies".

Naturally I am only assuming the conversation was somewhat vague from your
side. I am only speaking from the types of conversations I personally have
with people attempting to deal with their equipment, what they may think is
the proper means of using that equipment, and the reality of how that
equipment actually works. Mind you, I am not intimating you are not a
knowledgable person. With all the differeing links to computers from
camcorders, memory chips, and the multitude of technical jargon it does take
a lot of study to realize their differences.

My advice would be to contact Panasonic for the return of the un-needed
software. Simply tell them there was a miscommunication in the whole thing
and I am sure they will comply. In the meantime, you should take the time to
read or even re-read the sections of the camcorder manual beginning with
"Editing Features". The section on the memory card clearly says the MPEG
videos can only be downloaded using the USB and Movie Messenger.

For capture and editing of your DV footage you will need a 1394 card in a
slot which does not share resources with another device. The ADS Pyro cards
are good ones, and the ADS Pyro Professional ships with Premiere Pro 1.5,
Encore 1.5 and Audition 1.5 at around $500. Otherwise an inexpensive 1394
card is fine and you could use Windows Movie Maker, though that software
lacks a bit in editing features is a good place for beginner to get their
feet wet.

If you would like some personal assistance please send an e-mail using the
webmaster address below.

--
Larry Johnson
Digital Video Solutions
webmaster([at]digitalvideosolutions.com
http://www.digitalvideosolutions.com
877-227-6281 Toll Free Sales Assistance
386-672-1941 Customer Service
386-672-1907 Technical Support
386-676-1515 Fax


"Jark" |timcole([at]colescorner.com| said
DZudnWGPHKTw3ITfRVn-3Q([at]comcast.com...
|I am tearing my hair out trying to get my XP system to recognize the
|Panasonic
| MiniDV PalmCorder PV-DV102D over a USB hookup so I can transcribe the
| contents of a dv tape onto a dvd. The software provided by Panasonic and
| the software I've downloaded refuse to recognize it. WinXP, with all its
| latest bells and whistles, just keeps saying "unknown usb device."
| Panasonic keeps saying that it should work and charged me $22 for a cd of
| the software which didn't work!
| One good thing came out of all this -- I upgraded my motherboard bios and
| smoothed over a few other developing problems with usb 2.0.
| Does anyone have any ideas to offer?
|
|
|






nap
Posted Feb 21, 2005 16:11:25
Subject: Re: usb recognition of dv camera

Guest



yes. a PCI fw card will work fine.

If you are on XP SP2 USB2.0 has been mangled on that release of the servie
pack.

Also, as a nother poster said,,, USB is only for stills.
"Jark" |timcole([at]colescorner.com| said
FcydnQubsdqMZ4TfRVn-iw([at]comcast.com...
| Thanks, Mark, Mike, and Tim. I looked long and hard at firewire, but I'm
| not sure if my board supports it -- or does it just require a pci-card
| path to the bus? I checked out my mb's specs and found that there is no
| 1394 connection, but it was provided on the very next mb revision.
| Will a firewire card work in a board not completely designed for it?
| (Gigabyte GA-7VT600L -- no rev. number).
|
|
|
|
| "Jukka Aho" |jukka.aho([at]iki.fi| said
| 7PbSd.1650$Az5.354([at]reader1.news.jippii.net...
|| Jark wrote:
||
||| I am tearing my hair out trying to get my XP system to recognize the
||| Panasonic MiniDV PalmCorder PV-DV102D over a USB hookup so I can
||| transcribe the contents of a dv tape onto a dvd. [...] Does anyone have
||| any ideas to offer?
||
|| Do what you should have done in the first place: forget about the USB and
|| get a Firewire (IEEE-1394) card for your computer and a suitable Firewire
|| cable (usually 6-to-4-pin) for connecting your camcorder to the card. All
|| your problems will magically disappear.
||
|| --
|| znark
||
|
|






Jark
Posted Feb 21, 2005 11:42:13
Subject: Re: usb recognition of dv camera

Guest



Thanks -- you guys have been a big help!
I'm runnin' downtown to buy me a firewire card and cable (got paid
yesterday)
I'll post my success or failure here.





"nap" |gospam([at]yourself.com| said
NKnSd.2353$OU1.1168([at]newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
| yes. a PCI fw card will work fine.
|
| If you are on XP SP2 USB2.0 has been mangled on that release of the servie
| pack.
|
| Also, as a nother poster said,,, USB is only for stills.
| "Jark" |timcole([at]colescorner.com| said
| FcydnQubsdqMZ4TfRVn-iw([at]comcast.com...
|| Thanks, Mark, Mike, and Tim. I looked long and hard at firewire, but I'm
|| not sure if my board supports it -- or does it just require a pci-card
|| path to the bus? I checked out my mb's specs and found that there is no
|| 1394 connection, but it was provided on the very next mb revision.
|| Will a firewire card work in a board not completely designed for it?
|| (Gigabyte GA-7VT600L -- no rev. number).
||
||
||
||
|| "Jukka Aho" |jukka.aho([at]iki.fi| said
|| 7PbSd.1650$Az5.354([at]reader1.news.jippii.net...
||| Jark wrote:
|||
|||| I am tearing my hair out trying to get my XP system to recognize the
|||| Panasonic MiniDV PalmCorder PV-DV102D over a USB hookup so I can
|||| transcribe the contents of a dv tape onto a dvd. [...] Does anyone have
|||| any ideas to offer?
|||
||| Do what you should have done in the first place: forget about the USB
||| and get a Firewire (IEEE-1394) card for your computer and a suitable
||| Firewire cable (usually 6-to-4-pin) for connecting your camcorder to the
||| card. All your problems will magically disappear.
|||
||| --
||| znark
|||
||
||
|
|






Tim Mitchell Posted Feb 21, 2005 11:29:51
Subject: Re: usb recognition of dv camera

Guest



In article |7PbSd.1650$Az5.354([at]reader1.news.jippii.net|, Jukka Aho
|jukka.aho([at]iki.fi| writes
|Jark wrote:
|
|| I am tearing my hair out trying to get my XP system to recognize the
||Panasonic MiniDV PalmCorder PV-DV102D over a USB hookup so I can
||transcribe the contents of a dv tape onto a dvd. [...] Does anyone
||have any ideas to offer?
|
|Do what you should have done in the first place: forget about the USB
|and get a Firewire (IEEE-1394) card for your computer and a suitable
|Firewire cable (usually 6-to-4-pin) for connecting your camcorder to
|the card. All your problems will magically disappear.
|
You can't transfer DV tape via USB anyway, you can only transfer still
images.
--
Tim Mitchell




Jark
Posted Feb 21, 2005 09:11:12
Subject: Re: usb recognition of dv camera

Guest



Thanks, Mark, Mike, and Tim. I looked long and hard at firewire, but I'm
not sure if my board supports it -- or does it just require a pci-card path
to the bus? I checked out my mb's specs and found that there is no 1394
connection, but it was provided on the very next mb revision.
Will a firewire card work in a board not completely designed for it?
(Gigabyte GA-7VT600L -- no rev. number).