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08-10-2005, 21:02
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102543#DetailSpecs

So i am building two very similar gaming Pcs / work PCs. There are soooo many vid cards out there its hard to choose, i figured i need to spend about $300 to get anying decent that will still be a nice card two or three years from now.

Looking at the link above i think i need something like this, if you had $300 to spend on a vid card for a P4 3 gig Hz mostly gaming PC what would get. Is my choice ok or should i consider some others?

There are a lot of gamers here so i would like to hear what your using and if its around $300 or less how does it compare to the link above. I am not locked into buying anything yet, just need some opinions and for you to share your experience with cards you have used.

thx
Andy

AZ-Boog
08-10-2005, 21:50
6800GT.

I really like Leadtek.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814122209

It's a smidge over your limit but well worth it.


I wish I could get one.

08-10-2005, 22:14
listed in the specs it mentions a power cord, this card has to have a power cord ?

Whats the scoop on the power cord

Andy

the price is the same listed as the ATI i posted, whats $20 if your already spending $300 :)

AZ-Boog
08-10-2005, 22:39
Probably refers to the +12V line that runs specifically to the vid card. Newer video cards need a separate +12V power line to feed them. It will come right from the PS.

08-10-2005, 22:46
edited for correction

My new PSU has a connection labeled PCIe and its a 6 pin. I saw it but didnt know why it said PCIe, i was not aware they have there own power supply now.

Andy

funbob
08-10-2005, 22:51
I'd go for a 6800GT myself. A tad bit biased because that's what I have but I still think it's the best card for the money right now. The ATI is certainly not going to be a bad card though. I think the games you play will ultimately determine your decision.

Some benchmarks for your viewing pleasure here...

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20050524/index.html

RaiderRodney
08-11-2005, 10:12
I'm running the x800pro on a 4x agp slot and have no complaints at all. I would go with the XL your looking at because in those 3dmark scores it was head to head with the 6800GT and it will save you a few bucks as well. Use the money saved and put an ATISilencer Cooler on it so you can OC a bit with ATItool and it would smoke the 6800. But that's just my opinion :)

ngray
08-11-2005, 10:54
I have the 6800GT (2 in fact, in sli).

In general, for what you want to spend, I'd recommend the x800 series. Better performance across the board, and it has component video out capability for an HD monitor.

As for the interface, carefully consider whether you want to build a system built around pci express v.s. agp. I'd strongly recommend the former.

As for the power connector, if you go pci-e, make sure you get a power supply with the pci-e connectors, if you go agp, your card will use the same type of 4-pin molex connector that your hard drive uses. If you go pci-e, but get the old style psu, you can still get adapters.

Here's a good overview of relative performance of current cards in major games:
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20050705/vga-charts-pcie-05.html

One final footnote. If you end up spending LESS, get the 6600GT. Best card for the money, roughly $175.

If you end up spending MORE, DEFINITELY GO WITH THE 7800GT. It's the hottest thing out, it's fast, it has the latest HD, hi-resolution, and HDR support, and it starts at 420 on newegg. In fact, it came out today.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150108
http://guru3d.com/article/Videocards/242/13/
http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q3/geforce-7800gt/index.x?pg=8
http://www.thetechlounge.com/review.php?directory=xfx_geforce_7800_gt_preview&page=4
http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review.php?dXJsX3Jldmlld19JRD0xNDU3JnVybF9wYWdlPTY=

08-11-2005, 14:10
thx for the input but i think i am even more confused:)

I was planing on the PCIe type card, why would i want to go with an AGP, i thought the PCIe cards were going to be better. Regardless, i am sticking to my origianl plan which was PCIe.

Thingking a bit more about it i really dont play the lastest games, all those games listed in Toms hardware review i dont play. Maybe i dont need a $300+ vid card for the stuff i like. I do however need a card capable of playing the lastest games, in case i find one i really want. Those listed in the review are not games i play.

Andy

hmmm i guess i need to think about my options some more.

AZ-Boog
08-11-2005, 15:52
It does get confusing, doesn't it?

A real nice mid-range video card is the 6600GT.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814122201

I just got one of these for my Son's PC.

Great value for the money. Runs everything he plays.

D3. HL2. BF2.

good luck.

08-11-2005, 19:15
AZ

looking at that link you posted i see its a PCIe but how come it doesnt have that 6 pin PCIe connection on the card. I see some cards that do have it and some cards that dont, whats the skinny?

Andy

Maybe you can help me out. I like the older games lke D2 LOD, Balder gate, rouge spear, marine sharpshooter 2, Casim, Quake ect. Too many times i go buy games only to discover that the game sucks and now i am out $50. Looking at the games i listed what game would you think i would like to play.

I must say BF2 did look cool but its not really my type of game, i would get bored with it.

AZ-Boog
08-11-2005, 19:26
The 6800GT needs more power then the 6600GT.

Try to find the demo version of any game you think you might be interested in.

Try it before you buy it kind of thing.

08-12-2005, 20:47
AZ

i like that card in your link but i really wanted to get a 256 MB card this time around.

I was going to buy a cheaper card but have changed my mind. I will just want to replace the cheaper card in a year or two so i will spend the $300 or so for a decent card. Placed the order just a few hours ago for two of these ( one for my PC and one for my friends).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814122209

I hope i dont regret the extra $ i spent.

Andy

thx to everyone for posting there input, it was hard choice.

AZ-Boog
08-12-2005, 21:06
You won't regret it.

You'll REALLY enjoy it!

have fun with it.

08-12-2005, 21:34
Should all be here on Tuesday knowing how fast newegg has been on all my other orders.

I usually build a PC for about $600, i spent a bit more this timne around.

here it is times two of course because i built two:

ABIT GD8 Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 915P
ZALMAN CNPS7700-CU 120mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan
Thermaltake Tsunami VA3000BWA Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower
eagate Barracuda 7200.7 ST380817AS 80GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150
OCZ ModStream OCZ45012U ATX 450W Power Supply
Leadtek PX6800GT TDH Geforce 6800GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCIe16
OCZ Value Series 1GB(2 x 512MB)184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuf DDR 400
PLEXTOR Black combo 8M Cache SATA DVD Burner
intel Pentium 4 630 Prescott 800MHz FSB 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 EM64T Processor

Andy

I do have some regrets, i think i would have gone AMD after i read so much high praise for them and gaming. Its all good, i plan to build a pure gamer and i will most likely go AMD and a nice Asus MB ect...

AZ-Boog
08-12-2005, 21:46
Pics are absolutely required of this case, inside and out, after you get her fired up.

08-12-2005, 21:53
I can arrange that, it will be thursday next week i can up load pics.

I may have a problem, maybe you can answer the question AZ.
I have the 64 bit P4 coming and i just realized my new copies of XP Pro with SP2 are 32 bit versions. Do you forsee a problem here?

Andy

Washington,D.C.
08-12-2005, 22:01
I'm fairly sure the 64 bit Pentium 4's can run either 32 or 64 bit.I haven't tried one yet.The AMD-64's will run either one,that's for certain.

08-12-2005, 22:11
I was debating on getting the XP 64 bit or just waiting and getting Vista when they release it, i guess its slated for Nov ?.

I hear its faster and was told there is no noticable difference between the 32 bit Xp and the 64 bit XP, also there is still a bunch of programs that dont run on the 64 bit XP.

Given the choice which would you rather have 64 bit XP or the 64 bit Vista?

Andy

Washington,D.C.
08-12-2005, 22:17
I wouldn't spend the money on 64 bit XP with Vista coming out.

08-12-2005, 22:27
I just bought 4 copies of XP pro with SP 2 and didnt realize there was the 64 bit version. I am glad i got the 32 bit versions and not the 64 bit. I wouldnt have noticed until they arrived. I need to check the order form more closely, i did the same thing with the vid cards above. I have the 128 MB version instead of the 256, lucky i caught it at the last min.

Andy

funbob
08-13-2005, 08:20
Sweet card and an excellent price. You're going to like it. It'll run anything you want to throw at it. They also take very kindly to overlocking. I have mine running at 400mhz/1.1ghz, which is the stock clock speed of its bigger brother, the 6800 Ultra. Also, I highly recommend you bypass the stock drivers in favor of an optimized set. My favorites are the excellent XG series of drivers (http://www.tweaksrus.com/).