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bokbok_05
08-25-2005, 05:13
i just wanna ask you guys, what are the appropriate reloading and load data for:

1. actual competition
2. practice

lastly, what is the best bullet type & weight for your reloads? (lead, plated, fmj etc...)

your assistive effort will be highly appreciated. thanks.

bulm540
08-25-2005, 06:15
For what gun??

jasonub
08-25-2005, 06:43
if you can afford it shoot both competition and practice with the same bullet.

though i dont follow my own advice since im cheap

competition 185 grain plated 4.9 grain n320 pf of 172-175. 1.210 oal

practice 180 lead from first option 4.9 grains. same load pf of 173-175

bokbok_05
08-25-2005, 07:55
For what gun??
ooopps....for 1911..5in bull barrel.

competition 185 grain plated 4.9 grain n320 pf of 172-175. 1.210 oal
what about its recoil? magaan ba pag ito ang load? thanks.

batangueno
08-25-2005, 08:55
200gr lead FP 4.0gr N320 1.160 COL 172PF from a stock Para barrel. Since plain lead is cheap, you can use it both for practice and match.

Eye Cutter
08-25-2005, 10:13
200gr Copper Plated; 4.1gr N320; OAL = 1.160in.
172-173PF ParaOrd w/ 5in. Barsto barrel

i_am_infinity
08-25-2005, 11:49
doc,

do u prefer the 200 than the 180? if yes, why? thanks

Eye Cutter
08-25-2005, 16:16
although mas mababa ang muzzle jump ng 180gr, ayoko nung slap ng front to back recoil sensation sa kamay ko. mas mahina ang perceived recoil ng 200gr.

sila oliver and jason ang gamit 180gr. (185gr) heads. mas mabilis ang velocity

i_am_infinity
08-25-2005, 17:32
will the velocity be a factor?

Eye Cutter
08-25-2005, 18:08
si mc_o dapat mag explain kasi siya ang physics major! hahaha!

bokbok_05
08-25-2005, 18:45
200gr Copper Plated; 4.1gr N320; OAL = 1.160in.
200gr lead FP 4.0gr N320 1.160 COL 172PF
pag nagpa-reload ba ganyan lang ang sasabihin na load data sa mga reloader? what about bullet types? (fmj, teflon plated, copper plated & pure lead) ano ang pinakamalinis na gamitin and pinak-accurate sa inyo? (advantages & disadvantages). thanks again :) .

Eye Cutter
08-25-2005, 19:05
yes, yan ang load data ilalagay mo sa ammo box. those load data are proven to make major and reach 170+ PF.

siyempre the best fmj. but its also the most expensive. saka usually walang fmj na 200gr, 170gr and 180gr lang meron.

try mo teflon, plain lead and Cu plated, although you need to be picky with plated kasi minsan mas madumi pa sa barrel ang plated than plain lead.

try the 180/185gr and the 200gr reloads and decide which one suits you better.

you also want to try out the different overall lengths kasi meron din effect sa recoil (softer) kung mas mahaba bala at the expense of hanging up inside the chamber hood and causing a jam. kung saan hiyang pistol mo.

standard oal of the .40 cal is 1.125-1.130in so its quite short.
and bec. .40 is a high pressure round, we usually lengthen oal to dec. initial chamber pressures.

start at 1.160 up to 1.20in, but in majority of stock barrels, you need to freebore the chamber to accept long loads. majority of ipsc shooters use 1.160, 1.170 and 1.180 in.

try mo magpa-load sa first option, pb dionisio and stronghand.

bokbok_05
08-25-2005, 20:18
start at 1.160 up to 1.20in, but in majority of stock barrels, you need to freebore the chamber to accept long loads. majority of ipsc shooters use 1.160, 1.170 and 1.180 in.
do you think the stock barrel of armscor .40 needs to freebore the chamber to accept 1.160 - 1.180 in of bullets? if i use 180-185 gr weight, how many gr of powder should i put?

mc_oliver
08-25-2005, 21:28
My armscor barrel had no trouble chambering loads up to 1.210" (load ni Jason). I think it's been freebored already judging from the way the rifling is thinned out from the shoulder.

Pick a load that will not burn a hole in your pockets too deep. Test it in your gun. If it functions 100% and groups acceptably, forget about what other people tell you about their "magic" load. Because there isn't one. Masisira lang ulo mo kakapalit ng load. ;) Minor ka pa palagi sa matches!;f

bulm540
08-25-2005, 21:29
Originally posted by bokbok_05
do you think the stock barrel of armscor .40 needs to freebore the chamber to accept 1.160 - 1.180 in of bullets? if i use 180-185 gr weight, how many gr of powder should i put? YOUr barrel should probably be freebored. depends on what powder you use. If can load long, go with a fast powder like V V 320 as it will be subjectively softer ( faster recoil impulse)compared to slow burning powder.

Eye Cutter
08-25-2005, 22:49
most armscor barrels can accept up to 1.20in. oal kaya walang problema, but each pistol has its preferences.

pick a length and see if your pistol likes it and stick with it.

bokbok_05
08-26-2005, 06:43
Okay! Thanks guys. I'll try the load of DocEC & batangueno with 200 grainers and the load of MC_O & jasonub with 180/185 grainers. Goodluck on Sunday! Sana makahabol ako..~sd

bokbok_05
08-26-2005, 07:40
180 gr
oal = 1.160

what is the appropriate powder load?

tanduay
08-26-2005, 08:48
VVN320 4.7 to 4.9 grs. Chrono mo para sigurado.

theTactician
08-29-2005, 06:05
major loads lang..

Eye Cutter
08-29-2005, 06:40
my load. 200gr Copper Plated 4.1gr N320,
batangueno's load. 200gr lead FP 4.0gr N320

We both use P16-40 pistols. PF=172

mikol
08-29-2005, 07:39
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
my load. 200gr Copper Plated 4.1gr N320,
batangueno's load. 200gr lead FP 4.0gr N320

We both use P16-40 pistols. PF=172
Doc_EC is it possible to use the same data load for a cal .45?
if possible, were can i get a lead or copper coated head for cal .45 that only weights 200gr? i think 200gr with a muzzle velocity of as low as 850 can make major(170PF) ;g what do you suggest?

batangueno
08-29-2005, 09:13
Naku, don't interchange load data for different calibers, delikado 'yan. :)

mikol
08-29-2005, 10:35
Originally posted by batangueno
Naku, don't interchange load data for different calibers, delikado 'yan. :)
do you have any specs. kapatid of a light/practice load for a cal .45? wala ba alternative heads for a 230grs like 200grs?
di ba katulad ng gamit nyo ngayon, standard for cal .40 is 180grs but you are able to get 200grs head.

i_am_infinity
08-29-2005, 12:18
meron available na 210gr pang 45

Mang Danny
08-29-2005, 16:53
Subukan ninyong maghanap nang reference load dito: http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp

bulm540
08-29-2005, 18:21
Go to Jeff Maas's website. Tons of relaoding data from shooters.

bulm540
08-29-2005, 18:22
Here is the link to Jeff Maass's websitehttp://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/

mikol
08-29-2005, 22:40
Originally posted by i_am_infinity
meron available na 210gr pang 45
saan jj sa stronghand? pwede sila mag-reload ng 210grs?
the bigger the head kasi, affects the trajectory the farther the bullet head goes.
kaya kung mi mas magaang sana for a cal.45 mas ok. perceieved recoil may become stronger thou, pero maka-sanayan din yan. ;f

mikol
08-29-2005, 22:50
Originally posted by Mang Danny
Subukan ninyong maghanap nang reference load dito: http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp
thanks for the heads-up mang danny. ;f