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Rolledup4s
08-28-2005, 22:57
Anyone here own a G18? just wondering....

jonathon
08-28-2005, 23:21
I doubt it since they were made after the 1986 FA ban.

SlammedDime
08-28-2005, 23:33
Originally posted by jonathon
I doubt it since they were made after the 1986 FA ban. A few were imported before the ban here in the states if I recall correctly. They would be worth quite a bit of money however.

Glocker74
08-28-2005, 23:42
There's at least 2 guys on GT that own them.

Rolledup4s
08-28-2005, 23:51
so can you buy them overseas?

ffcracker
08-29-2005, 00:25
I know someone started a thread with pictures of their G18C a while back.

ffcracker
08-29-2005, 00:26
Here is the thread:

http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=399560&highlight=18C

tavo94
08-29-2005, 00:58
Originally posted by Rolledup4s
so can you buy them overseas?

No you can. At least in Panamá where I live only LE/Military personel can have them. My Agency issue me one when I received my commission 10 years ago. I like it a lot, same size as the 17 the only difference is the selector.

WinderPD-G27
08-29-2005, 01:06
can you possibly get us any pictures of it?

tavo94
08-29-2005, 01:10
Originally posted by WinderPD-G27
can you possibly get us any pictures of it?

Give me a couple of days.....

rkba_net
08-29-2005, 04:47
Originally posted by jonathon
I doubt it since they were made after the 1986 FA ban.

The Gun Control ACt of 1968 stopped the registration OF FOREIGN manufactured NFA weapons (of all types) as transferable... so there are NO transferable ORIGINAL G18's out there... this is also why you never see ORIGINAL TRANSFERABLE MP5's for sale or short barrel shotguns or suppressors.... The Gun Owner's Protection Act of 1986 banned the registration OF all full-auto weapons as transferable...

Stopping Power
08-29-2005, 15:24
Originally posted by tavo94
Give me a couple of days.....


Hey tavo Im from panama too wazupp

Que hago para conseguir una G18 aca

glfpunk
08-29-2005, 18:31
Originally posted by rkba_net
The Gun Control ACt of 1968 stopped the registration OF FOREIGN manufactured NFA weapons (of all types) as transferable... so there are NO transferable ORIGINAL G18's out there... this is also why you never see ORIGINAL TRANSFERABLE MP5's for sale or short barrel shotguns or suppressors.... The Gun Owner's Protection Act of 1986 banned the registration OF all full-auto weapons as transferable...

New suppressors and short barrel rifles and shotguns are bought and sold all the time. It's just regulated by the BATF.

Lumpy_3
08-29-2005, 18:59
Originally posted by rkba_net
The Gun Control ACt of 1968 stopped the registration OF FOREIGN manufactured NFA weapons (of all types) as transferable... so there are NO transferable ORIGINAL G18's out there... this is also why you never see ORIGINAL TRANSFERABLE MP5's for sale or short barrel shotguns or suppressors.... The Gun Owner's Protection Act of 1986 banned the registration OF all full-auto weapons as transferable...

C&R are still transferable.

Rolledup4s
08-29-2005, 19:29
no one answered my question. can you buy one overseas?

SlammedDime
08-29-2005, 22:01
Originally posted by Rolledup4s
no one answered my question. can you buy one overseas? Yea, but you can't bring it into the states.

Rolledup4s
08-29-2005, 22:52
thanks....

G18
08-31-2005, 16:16
Yes I own one!^2 in my dreams;n
This one is the CCW of good friend in South America, I've shoot it several times and I can tell you it's a sweet.;f
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/G18/G186.jpg

rkba_net
09-01-2005, 05:43
Originally posted by glfpunk
New suppressors and short barrel rifles and shotguns are bought and sold all the time. It's just regulated by the BATF.

NEW FOREIGN made NFA weapons of all kinds cannot be registered as tranferable to individuals... this was stopped by the GCA 68.... all of the NEW suppressors and SBS's and SBR's you see were either manufactured here OR converted here... here is a quote from the NFA FAQ...

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/wbardwel/public/nfalist/nfa_faq.txt

On top of the FOPA machine gun restrictions, any NFA weapon
imported into the U.S. after the Gun Control Act took effect (end
of 1968) cannot be transferred to an individual. See 26 U.S.C.
sec. 5844. They can be transferred to SOT's, although without any
written police demonstration request, and kept by the SOT after
surrendering his SOT. These are sometimes called "pre-86 samples",
or "dealer samples", although dealer sample can be used to refer to
either a post-86 machine gun or to any NFA weapon imported after
1968.

# 1 Gunna
09-07-2005, 10:16
Doesn't "MichiGun" own one?

John@JCDLESales
09-07-2005, 19:20
Your pic and sent you a PM with the URL. You could not pick out the Selector in the picture in it's Darkened State. Hope you don't mind.
John
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/MP5Guy/G186Lightened.jpg

target17
09-08-2005, 09:09
I have one being demonstrated on my web site at www.tomsgunshop.com . I believe there are some class 3 dealers that have them, but Glock will no longer sell them to ANY body but a law enforcement agency. At least that is what Glock Told me & I'm on there range program & a type 7 class 2 mfg. For what it's worth. Tom I DO NOT own the one being shot!

G18
09-08-2005, 09:15
Thanks John,
Looks much better now, the original pic was taken several years ago with a modern brand new (at the time, POS now) Minolta DimageV.

IV Troop
09-08-2005, 19:15
I have a couple of short clips of playing with a G18 last month during some training. One handed and two handed. I do not know how to post them here though. Can they be emailed to someone who would know?

3 weelin geezer
09-10-2005, 10:41
I use premiere to make it small enough for people to see it without waiting for gas to come down. Then, I stick it on my web space and link to it. I get free webspace on my internet server.

PromptCritical
09-12-2005, 14:08
G18 for CCW? Love to see the look on the mugger's face after the first burst. Priceless.

Disciple
09-12-2005, 15:03
What face? ;I ;N

HashiriyaGDB
09-16-2005, 18:12
You may not be able to import G18s, but here's some info on an aftermarket fire-selector system for Glocks at this link.

http://www.fss-g.com/index2.htm

ShackleMeNot
09-17-2005, 12:37
http://www.warriormindset.com/hosted/17auto1.jpg

Converted 17.

Walter45Auto
09-17-2005, 12:39
Originally posted by HashiriyaGDB
You may not be able to import G18s, but here's some info on an aftermarket fire-selector system for Glocks at this link.

http://www.fss-g.com/index2.htm


Is there a legal way to use these things??? I mean can you register your GLOCK with the ATF and it be OK to use this thing?


;g






;8 ;I

Rolledup4s
09-17-2005, 12:42
Originally posted by HashiriyaGDB
You may not be able to import G18s, but here's some info on an aftermarket fire-selector system for Glocks at this link.

http://www.fss-g.com/index2.htm

anyone have one of these? how much are they?

rkba_net
09-18-2005, 09:54
Originally posted by Walter45Auto
Is there a legal way to use these things??? I mean can you register your GLOCK with the ATF and it be OK to use this thing?
;8 ;I

No these cannot be registered by individuals.... only PD's and the Gov't can... no new full autos can be registered since 1986...

Stopping Power
09-19-2005, 10:47
im in other country

i can order this fire auto selector?

G18
09-19-2005, 15:56
Originally posted by Stopping Power
im in other country

i can order this fire auto selector?

Yes, you can order it, just don't bring it into the states.

Stopping Power
09-19-2005, 16:48
im in panama i want to buy this auto fire selector

what i have to do?

UZIFORME
09-19-2005, 19:01
I think you would be better off buying these conversion kits from somewhere outside the U.S. the one shown here is regulated by U.S. law so they would have to go through all the ATF red tape to export a machinegun to a foreign country, I doubt they would do this for a 1 device sale.

There are companies in Argentina and Germany which sells similar parts that are under no regulation from sale, it would be easier to get those than to try and get a U.S. manuf. to export a machinegun to you.

G18
09-20-2005, 08:20
Originally posted by Stopping Power
im in panama i want to buy this auto fire selector

what i have to do?

You can order it directly from www.fss-g.com. Even that the device holds an US patent, they are manufactured and located in South America.
I can asure you that the FSSG is the best selector you can have, it's the original, the first one ever made for Glocks, it's made in polymer just like the pistol and has lifetime warranty.
I've shoot several pistols with this selector and it works as fine as a G18.

yoni
09-20-2005, 09:15
Does any one know if the specs are available for a coversion for full auto that would have a selector switch on the side like a Glock 18.

Thanks

Yoni

Meman5150
09-21-2005, 00:40
after watching that video I'm curious as to why cops don't have G18's over here.

UZIFORME
09-21-2005, 23:09
after watching that video I'm curious as to why cops don't have G18's over here.


They do have Glock 18ns over here you have just not been very observant.

Full auto is not for most cops, most cops don't have the needed skills and training to go with the use. The cops who need them have them.

SVision
09-23-2005, 18:12
Originally posted by Meman5150
after watching that video I'm curious as to why cops don't have G18's over here.

considering how much ammo cops go through using a semi auto pistol in firefights, i would hate to see news stories of cops running out of ammo because of them using a machine pistol, and missing with all the shots.

Stopping Power
09-24-2005, 11:40
Originally posted by G18
You can order it directly from www.fss-g.com. Even that the device holds an US patent, they are manufactured and located in South America.
I can asure you that the FSSG is the best selector you can have, it's the original, the first one ever made for Glocks, it's made in polymer just like the pistol and has lifetime warranty.
I've shoot several pistols with this selector and it works as fine as a G18.

i have contacted jorge Leon for the FSSG.

i have a question: YOu think this work for my glock or is better to get a G17 or G34?

warranty how about of this FSSG device

G18
09-24-2005, 17:39
Originally posted by Stopping Power
i have contacted jorge Leon for the FSSG.

i have a question: YOu think this work for my glock or is better to get a G17 or G34?

warranty how about of this FSSG device
You can fit it on any Glock. When testing it in SA, I shot even a G26 and a G30, kind of hard to hold.

rpelfrey
09-25-2005, 19:28
Originally posted by jonathon
I doubt it since they were made after the 1986 FA ban.

I wonder with the current political lineup in our favor if we would have any luck overturning that '86 ban?

Perry F.
09-25-2005, 20:56
Originally posted by G18
Yes I own one!^2 in my dreams;n
This one is the CCW of good friend in South America, I've shoot it several times and I can tell you it's a sweet.;f
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/G18/G186.jpg

Does he carry it in Full auto mode? ;f

r2kba
09-26-2005, 06:22
I hereby order this thread to DIE a suddent DEATH.;Q

;g

~chatter~

Bolt_Overide
09-27-2005, 00:06
Originally posted by target17
I have one being demonstrated on my web site at www.tomsgunshop.com . I believe there are some class 3 dealers that have them, but Glock will no longer sell them to ANY body but a law enforcement agency At least that is what Glock Told me & I'm on there range program & a type 7 class 2 mfg. For what it's worth. Tom I DO NOT own the one being shot!

that is incorrect sir, I have a friend who is an SOT and he just got one last month for demo purposes with police letter head.

target17
09-27-2005, 07:16
There are times being wrong is a good thing. Would it be possible for you to put the two of us in touch with each other.
Tom Reynolds
972-636-7226
tom@tomsgunshop.com

Bolt_Overide
09-27-2005, 16:57
I will forward your contact info to him.

Stopping Power
09-27-2005, 17:04
i know that the barreel is compensated but i have a specific question

what is the diference between Glock 17 and Glock 18 inside or interlal components?


inside they have the same firing pin, trigger conector, same materials, the same striker etc etc

target17
09-27-2005, 17:09
I'll be waiting to hear from him & my thanks to you Sir. Tom

target17
09-27-2005, 17:37
The angle of the porting is different, & I was told the rockwell hardness of the barrel is alot higher. I could see & compare for myself on the porting, but took the guy's word for the rockwell stuff. The rear of the slide is also ported, just the slide, NOT the barrel. I believe he said that was for counter balance. Thats all I know!!! Tom

Stopping Power
09-28-2005, 15:11
how much for the G18 tom?

RenegadeGlocker
09-28-2005, 15:25
Originally posted by Bolt_Overide
that is incorrect sir, I have a friend who is an SOT and he just got one last month for demo purposes with police letter head.

Please follow-up here if this is indeed a change in policy, or just a special one-time situation. I talked to the Glock LE dealer in my area and he is unaware of any change on policy. If this is true, it will drop the street price of a G18 from $3000 to about $500.

target17
09-28-2005, 15:29
I never ask after I found out I couldn't have one. I guess I should have at lest ask, sorry!!! Tom

Gunsmoke Ltd
09-29-2005, 02:23
Has anyone on here ever done business with the german guy (www.glockfullautoswitch.de) selling the glock full auto devices? Since im allowed to have one where I live I was thinking of getting one off of him but I wanted to make sure he is genuine first.Are they any good? Thanks.

G18
09-29-2005, 07:15
Originally posted by Gunsmoke Ltd
Has anyone on here ever done business with the german guy (www.glockfullautoswitch.de) selling the glock full auto devices? Since im allowed to have one where I live I was thinking of getting one off of him but I wanted to make sure he is genuine first.Are they any good? Thanks.
If you want genuine get the FSSG selector (http://www.fss-g.com), the only one holding an US patent. Mention G18 when you contact them and you'll get a good deal.

Stopping Power
09-29-2005, 10:37
G18 wich one is the best selector the german selector or the FSSG?

G18
09-29-2005, 11:26
FSSG I've fired several times with different Glocks, it works flawlees just like a G18. It has lifetime warranty, you can go wrong with it.
Never seen the german nor know anybody that has one.

Stopping Power
09-29-2005, 11:58
Originally posted by G18
FSSG I've fired several times with different Glocks, it works flawlees just like a G18. It has lifetime warranty, you can go wrong with it.
Never seen the german nor know anybody that has one.

the video in the http://www.glockfullautoswitch.de/ is the same video in the http://www.fss-g.com.

they copycat the FSSG video
check it out

G18
09-29-2005, 12:10
Originally posted by Stopping Power
the video in the http://www.glockfullautoswitch.de/ is the same video in the http://www.fss-g.com.

they copycat the FSSG video
check it out
Yeap!

Bolt_Overide
09-29-2005, 20:57
Originally posted by RenegadeGlocker
Please follow-up here if this is indeed a change in policy, or just a special one-time situation. I talked to the Glock LE dealer in my area and he is unaware of any change on policy. If this is true, it will drop the street price of a G18 from $3000 to about $500.

I appologise gentlemen, I have indeed misled you, though inadvertantly.

The SOT I was referring to did get a brand new g18 in, but not directly from glock, and when I questioned him, he declined to give further details. I appologise for getting anyones hopes up.

RenegadeGlocker
09-29-2005, 21:06
Originally posted by Bolt_Overide
I appologise gentlemen, I have indeed misled you, though inadvertantly.

The SOT I was referring to did get a brand new g18 in, but not directly from glock, and when I questioned him, he declined to give further details. I appologise for getting anyones hopes up.

Thanks!

Gunsmoke Ltd
09-30-2005, 03:34
Can someone have a look at the german switch website and take a look at the pics and tell me how the sear manages to be able to move forward when the switch is turned because I just cant see how. How else do you think it works?

G18
09-30-2005, 07:17
Originally posted by Gunsmoke Ltd
Can someone have a look at the german switch website and take a look at the pics and tell me how the sear manages to be able to move forward when the switch is turned because I just cant see how. How else do you think it works?
Yeah! sear and slide plate look as one whole piece, I'm guessing the adapter moves up and down when you turn the level.

target17
09-30-2005, 08:32
Sir, You made a honest mistake & you are honest enough to admitt it. I well try to follow your exsample in,( MY )future mistakes. Thank You Tom

TRESCOCOS
10-04-2005, 07:14
gentlemen

i have owned a full auto mod 19c for a while now. I use the fssg fire convertor. the gun shoots flawlessly with standard and +p ammo. dont use cheap blaser or similar ammo or it will jam.

the guys from argentina and germany and russia are a bunch of scammers. the only one to buy is from jorge leon out of venezuela.

i have shot probably 10,000 rds thru my mod 19 and it is still fine. obviuosly you have to let the barrel cool down - esp with the 32 rd clips...i can dump a 32 clip in about 1.5 seconds so this is a faster cycle rate than advertised.

the fssg has 2 modes controlled by trigger pull. you get a 3rd burst if you tap the trigger and continual fire if you do not release the trigger.

it is a fun gadget and has its applications but i can guarantee you that it takes alot of practise to master. if you had never shot one before you would miss a man at 30 feet with a full clip on the first try! the videos make it look easy!!

if you live in the usa then forget it...

UZIFORME
10-06-2005, 01:48
Latest Creation

Stopping Power
10-06-2005, 17:37
i like the G34 looks beatifull

Bolt_Overide
10-06-2005, 20:27
I pried out of my SOT buddy how he got his g18 today. The person he gets his demo letters from is a CLEO and when he ordered his departments g18's he ordered one extra and transfered it out to my buddy. Apparantly glocks contactual agreement they require to sell an agency a g18 does state that its ok to transfer one out to an SOT, although they strongly suggest to "relinquish" it back to glock if you no longer need it.

Ol Gaston is harder to get the fun stuff out of than HK...

fullauto
10-09-2005, 20:11
Originally posted by Gunsmoke Ltd
Has anyone on here ever done business with the german guy (www.glockfullautoswitch.de) selling the glock full auto devices? Since im allowed to have one where I live I was thinking of getting one off of him but I wanted to make sure he is genuine first.Are they any good? Thanks.

FYI, better get the ones available locally, its way way cheaper and you won't have any problems shipping it in. ;f

Stopping Power
10-21-2005, 09:06
how G34 works with the FSSG?

my FSSG is in HOme but i have to wait for my G17

i have a G23 but i prefer to put in my G17

Mild Bill
10-23-2005, 22:27
I'm going to Buenos Aires in March...

I wish there was a way I could get something, or some kinda kit...

Ay Dios mio!

;c

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