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Romadoc
08-30-2005, 10:25
I right clicked on Recycle Bin to remove all items. What I should like to know is if there is a way to be certain these items are not hiding somewhere on my disc?

Washington,D.C.
08-30-2005, 10:33
http://www.ccleaner.com

Washington,D.C.
08-30-2005, 10:58
For security of deleted files

http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/


http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/download.php

Washington,D.C.
08-30-2005, 11:01
Can see remaining hidden files with this one

http://majorgeeks.com/Disk_Investigator_d1341.html

Romadoc
08-30-2005, 13:45
Disc Investigator only yields a batch of digits. How do I get English language result?

HerrGlock
08-30-2005, 14:05
Do you want to get into forensics? That's where you're headed.

Yes, it's fun as hell but it's also a LOT of drudgery.

DanH

DeadMansLife
08-30-2005, 16:44
Digital forensics? Sounds fun but out of my pay-grade. :)

MrsKitty
09-01-2005, 11:05
Originally posted by HerrGlock
Do you want to get into forensics? That's where you're headed.

Yes, it's fun as hell but it's also a LOT of drudgery.

DanH

Actually, I might find that interesting...but what degrees would that require?

David_G17
09-01-2005, 13:51
Originally posted by Romadoc
I right clicked on Recycle Bin to remove all items. What I should like to know is if there is a way to be certain these items are not hiding somewhere on my disc?

until they are overwritten with new data, they most certainly are "hiding" on your disc. emptying the recycle bin, merely allows them to be overwritten by the operating system.

are you trying to recover them or are you trying to prevent their recovery?

HerrGlock
09-01-2005, 14:48
Originally posted by misskitty5077
Actually, I might find that interesting...but what degrees would that require?

None, really, if you know what you're doing.

SANS track 8 is forensics or used to be anyway. If you ever want to make your ears bleed but learn more than you ever thought possible in a week, take a SANS course.

DanH

MrsKitty
09-02-2005, 11:05
Originally posted by HerrGlock
None, really, if you know what you're doing.



The secret: "if you know what you're doing."

Maybe one day :)

MtBaldy
09-06-2005, 04:56
Originally posted by Romadoc
I right clicked on Recycle Bin to remove all items. What I should like to know is if there is a way to be certain these items are not hiding somewhere on my disc?

Windows does not really erase files, it just marks the space on the disk as available. The data remains there until Windows needs to use the space to store other files then it overwrites the data there. The question is: Who is going to be looking for those files and why? If it's the NSA and they believe urgent national security related data is on it there is no way to really be sure the data won't be found. If it's your wife or a private investigator using off the shelf software then maybe one of the disk wipe utilities that use DOD protocols will work. The only way to be absolutely certain data can't be recovered off a HD is to physically destroy the platters then bury the pieces in widely separated locations.

Cross-X
09-06-2005, 05:23
Originally posted by Romadoc
I right clicked on Recycle Bin to remove all items. What I should like to know is if there is a way to be certain these items are not hiding somewhere on my disc?



Sledgehammer the hard drive!