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cuervo
09-11-2005, 22:13
[edit: Meant to post in Cop Talk, but maybe it fits here, too, or Mods will move it.]

[edit again: I never noticed the FF/EMS Forum here. Maybe Mods will move this to the FF/EMS forum.]

I figured this might get answered here and is maybe a follow-up to an earlier post I asked on switchblades in NC. I had asked about switchblades because I was looking at a Microtech MSE but would like to find something that is close to it but in a manual version.

So, as far as something to cut webbing and break glass, what does anyone carry? The features I'd like to have are: non-pointed blade, carbide glass breaker, line cutter without having to open knife, and maybe assisted opening when opening is necessary.

I'm not looking to be a EMT-wanta-be, anymore than a CCW makes me a Cop-wanta-be. I do believe, though, that in any situation, I am my first line of defense and/or rescue.

I've looked at SOG's new Trident and it fits pretty close except it has a pointed blade.
http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=SOGTF1

Colt has a line that is pretty close except maybe for the fast opening.
http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=CT0101EMSB

Spiderco & Kershaw, no external cutter.
http://www.knivesplus.com/spyderco-knife-assist-sp-c79psbk.html
http://www.botac.com/kerebl.html

tia

Slinger646
09-12-2005, 05:24
I carry a SOG trident and a Smith & Wesson First Response. Maybe a Mod could move this to FF/EMS section of GT

Fireman1291
09-12-2005, 07:00
I have the Colt for work and it sucks, if you get it unscrew the allen bolts and use locktite, i lost about 3-4 screws, they just fell out. I used to use the knife on fire scenes alot but have since started to use my cold steel Recon1 instead, its over engeneered and will last longer, however I cant use it for med cause of the pointed blade. The Colt would be my choice for MEDICAL but use loctite. Hope this helps.

Rinspeed
09-12-2005, 10:29
Cold Steel makes a very good knife for the money. Just don't order direct as you can save a lot by ordering from a online dealer.

HollowHead
09-12-2005, 13:32
Smith & Wesson "First Response". Flat point, belt cutter blade and glass breaking spring-loaded point.

Privatejoker
09-12-2005, 15:50
for glass breaker, the MOD small CQD is a hell of a knife

http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=MDDMABS

Personally, i would rather sharpen a stick and use it than use a S&W knife. I have seen the liner locks on them fail a couple time, and I think the steel is garbage.

Just my $.02

AggiePhil
09-12-2005, 17:26
I carry a Benchmade McHenry & Williams and absolutely love it.

demusn79
09-12-2005, 18:10
non pointed blade!!!! argh!!! democnife



;i




http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/demusn79/th_Im000456.jpg (http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/demusn79/Im000456.jpg)

lomfs24
09-13-2005, 02:41
I carry a Smith and Wesson First Responder 911 knife.
http://www.888knivesrus.com/product/SW911

You can find them a lot cheaper on ebay but there is a picture of one.

My whole department loved mine except one guy who didn't like the open blade for a seat belt cutter but you would really have to work to cut someone with it. Not saying you couldn't it just wouldn't be unintentional.

jbcarr25
09-13-2005, 08:59
Try a SOG Flash, I've got the Flash Tanto, this thing is great. Opens fast and never fails to slice through anything I need it to and it holds a razor edge for longer than most others I've used.

http://www.sogknives.com/flash.htm

Charlie Fox
09-13-2005, 09:32
IMHO these specialized "EMT Knives" are just a marketing ploy. In 22 years of service I have had to punch 1 window, and I did than with an axe head. As for seat belts I have NEVER had to cut one, ever. So all this add-on stuff is extra weight. If you're concerned with a pointy knife get a Spyderco Rescue and call it good. :cool:

Rinspeed
09-13-2005, 10:07
Originally posted by Charlie Fox
IMHO these specialized "EMT Knives" are just a marketing ploy. In 22 years of service I have had to punch 1 window, and I did than with an axe head. As for seat belts I have NEVER had to cut one, ever. So all this add-on stuff is extra weight. If you're concerned with a pointy knife get a Spyderco Rescue and call it good. :cool:


I have heard that the actual times a seat belt needs to be cut is very small. I am interested in what others have to say about this.

AggiePhil
09-13-2005, 11:00
Originally posted by Rinspeed
I have heard that the actual times a seat belt needs to be cut is very small. I am interested in what others have to say about this.
Maybe so, buy hey...it sure is fun!!! ;f ;a

cuervo
09-13-2005, 14:17
Charlie Fox,

Good point, and I'm probably trying to kill too many birds with one stone.

To some extent, I'm thinking of both getting into someone else's car if I ever happen upon an accident and getting out of mine if I need to; not to mention just everyday use.

Thanks for the input everyone.

DaleGribble
09-14-2005, 06:53
Originally posted by Charlie Fox
IMHO these specialized "EMT Knives" are just a marketing ploy. In 22 years of service I have had to punch 1 window, and I did than with an axe head. As for seat belts I have NEVER had to cut one, ever. So all this add-on stuff is extra weight. If you're concerned with a pointy knife get a Spyderco Rescue and call it good. :cool:

Same here!

I carry two pocket folders, a Gerber and a Kershaw, neither one of them have anything to do with pt care! If I ever need to cut a seat belt, which I never have, I'll use my trauma shears.

If I ever need to break a window I'll just use my fist, Terminator style! The ladies would love that! ;f

Line Rider
09-14-2005, 11:17
I was an EMT back n the 1980's. I carried a Buck 110 Folding Hunter. Great knife, I never had a problem with it.

Privatejoker
09-14-2005, 12:16
+1 for the Spyderco Rescue.

emt1581
09-14-2005, 12:53
I carry a Kershaw Speed Safe partially serrated. I've had Spyderco's as well as other brands, but for my money the Kershaw is wonderful!!! Great, fast, simple.

A lot of guys around her carry wacker packs (trauma shears, penlight, scissors, but so far my knife has gotten be by just fine when needed.

-Emt1581

oldstyle
09-14-2005, 19:09
Originally posted by AggiePhil
I carry a Benchmade McHenry & Williams and absolutely love it.
Me too! Mine is the smaller 705. My all time favorite knife.

jim2037
09-17-2005, 11:23
I lost my spyderco rescue on a call last week!


:(

Rinspeed
09-17-2005, 12:01
Originally posted by jim2037
I lost my spyderco rescue on a call last week!


:(


That is the only reason I haven't bought a Benchmade. If I lose one of my Cold Steel folders no big deal as I can replace it for $40 - 50. I think I would be to worried of losing a $150 knife to enjoy it.

Glkster19
09-20-2005, 16:48
I just carry a cheap 3-4" locking blade with a pocket clip. Over 15 years, I've spent less than $25.00 on knives and not never had 1 not do what I wanted it to.

tc2129
09-22-2005, 10:21
I carry a Benchmade model 5 Rescue hook. Never cut a seatbelt with it, but have cut off clothing on patients and have used the O2 wrench many times. I like it because it is very small and light. I don't even know it is there on my belt. As far as a knife, I carry either a Benchmade 9050 auto or a Coldsteel Recon 1. And I agree with others about the "EMT knives" being just a marketing scheme. I have broken a few windows, but used a Halligan spike or some other handtool from off the truck.

kyfirefreak
09-22-2005, 12:52
Been on FD 6 years. Never once punched a window or cut a seatbelt on a scene, only in training.

I carry a S&W Extreme OPS. Works fine for me.

Terminator
09-23-2005, 05:51
Originally posted by DaleGribble


If I ever need to break a window I'll just use my fist, Terminator style! The ladies would love that! ;f

You have to love Terminator style

:cool:

Seriouly though, i carry i Gerber Firestorm.

ghostrider1
09-26-2005, 09:02
Ok I guess I wil be the one to be different. I carry a strider SNG in front right pocket,HAk around my neck,S&W responderon belt in right rear,Benchmade rescue hook in front shirt pocket. I have broken out several windows with the S&W.Most were in the early days when we all thought this was SOP. Now I semdolm break any glass. But I will allways carry my SNG I dont care if it did cost $400.00 You get what you pay for.

obxprnstar
09-27-2005, 14:55
I carry a magnum I got for free from CDNN when I ordered a bunch of stuff from them. I think it is their lightweight.

I like it.

ARFFormula
10-05-2005, 17:54
I carry a CRKT M16 13fd, not a bad knife.

Victory
10-11-2005, 22:54
personally, i prefer having a knife with a point. Can't carry my piece on duty so i want to have at least something i can claim is a tool. So that's the cold steel prolite.

For cutting cloting and webbing i use a benchmade rescue hook

black rob
10-23-2005, 19:56
Was carrying an Emerson CQC7 until it started playing hide and seek on me, might mix it up with a Gerber multi tool occasionally. Waiting for my Randall #10-3 in orange G10 to arrive.

I would say that more guys on our department than not, carry a blade with them most of the time.

Rob

M1Garand
10-24-2005, 22:53
If you got cash to burn, get Bench Made. If you want a good utility knife, get a S&W.

akulahawk
10-25-2005, 23:44
I carry one of two Gerber 3" folders while on duty. One of them has a black pocket clip and blade and the other is silver. They both have pointy ends and are very sharp. They're usually clipped in one of my front pockets or in a utility pocket on my thigh.

My only complaint about these knives is that their clip is mounted near the hinge. If they were mounted at the other end, I could easily draw my knife out and open it without having to turn it around 180 degrees in my hand first. My knives aren't designed as combat knives though.;f

I have rarely needed to use the knife for patient care purposes, but when I have had to, it's been invaluable. 99 times out of 100, I generally prefer to use my T-shears instead for most tasks.

I have found that my knife is a great utensil.

jmatteau
10-27-2005, 21:18
I carry a Gerber 800 legend. Best multi-tool I have owned.

Kiel1
10-28-2005, 10:07
I usually carry a Masters of Defense CQD Mk. 1 with the window punch. It's worked pretty well so far. When I don't want something as big and bulky I carry my Kershaw Blackout. I also carry a Leatherman Wave on my belt.

RESCUE31
10-29-2005, 10:04
I carry a Sog multitool and a Kershaw Scallion

Victory
10-30-2005, 09:29
Originally posted by RESCUE31
I carry a Sog multitool and a Kershaw Scallion

I have a SOG EOD multitool. Awesome piece of equipment. Every medic who's played with mine has been ready to ditch their leatherman's and gerber's

Joey
11-05-2005, 01:44
Emerson PSARK

wot_racing
11-06-2005, 20:37
Guess im just an odd ball. I carry a 12 dollar folding utility knife from lowes.. It folds jsut lieka pocket knife, but is actually a razor blade.. I keep it clipped on the velcro strap that covers the zippers on my boot.. Always worked well for me...

Victory
11-09-2005, 20:23
Originally posted by wot_racing
Guess im just an odd ball. I carry a 12 dollar folding utility knife from lowes.. It folds jsut lieka pocket knife, but is actually a razor blade.. I keep it clipped on the velcro strap that covers the zippers on my boot.. Always worked well for me...

Those things are great. In my opinion a tactical folder should be used for what it's intended. I use one of the folding box cutters for opening packages and the stuff not worth dulling my carry knife over.

AggiePhil
11-10-2005, 01:23
Originally posted by Victory
I use one of the folding box cutters for opening packages and the stuff not worth dulling my carry knife over.
You know that knives can be sharpened, right? ^8

RSQMedic
11-14-2005, 20:04
My cold steel voyager tantos have taken more abuse than any other knives I've owned. The large one doubles as a small prying tool and the serrated section eats laminated glass. I've been carrying these for about 7 years now.

As for tempored glass and seatbelts, the smith and wesson rescue knife with the spring loaded center punch works great. I have lost count how many windows and seatbelts I have used it on. But we have three interstates and two major railways passing through the district.

There are probably better knives out there but my Cold Steels are good sturdy work knives.

Steve

Navy HMC
11-26-2005, 20:39
I carry a Gerber multitool, comes in handy. I have having a buck of stuff hanging on my belt. Used to carry a Buck, but in 10 years, never used it so I quit carrying it. Much happier now.

XNYTRUCKIE
12-06-2005, 10:34
i carry a emerson CQC 7 in my front pocket , a cold steel tanto with the saw blade in my side pants pocket(bdu) and attached to my bunker gear is a navy dive knife in a jump proof sheath for the the worst scenarios i for hope only imagine happening .... I have had to use it once and it probably saved my life ... I also have a leatherman i carry as well as other tools ...


I heard a qoute once that has always stuck with me.. "one is none and 2 is one" meaning that if you lose one then you have no other knife at your disposle....

Bravo6
12-06-2005, 11:06
I have a CRKT M16, a Benchmade Auto-Stryker and a Microtech Chameleon.
Which one gets clipped in the pocket before I head out the door? Usually the Benchmade, but sometimes the M16. I usually dont carry the Microtech, as its 10 years old and pretty much a collection piece.

MrWithasee
12-08-2005, 16:15
Originally posted by Privatejoker
the MOD small CQD is a hell of a knife

http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=MDDMABS


A big +1^7

jes0420
12-30-2012, 17:35
Frankly, I am a little disappointed to see what my brothers are carrying out there on the line. First of all, all these "Fire/EMS specific" knives and multitools are strictly just marketing ploys. I have never, ever heard of any one (on duty) have to use the but of a knife to break a car window. Chances are, if you are on a 10-50 that is bad enough that you need to get into the vehicle through the windows, there wont be any glass in them anyway. Even if it is one of those rare cases, you should have a haligan, or some kind of rescue tool in your hands anyway. I do understand the idea of belt cutter. However, I have never been in a situation where I couldn't deploy my trauma shears faster. As for as the less pointed blade goes, buy a sheeps foot style blade. People get so wrapped up in the idea of a "tactical" blade, (I hate that word) that they forget what they are actually buying a knife for. All it really means is a long pointy blade, with a bunch of edges to get stuff caught on, (i.e. your patients skin) and cool grip features.

I do admit, early on in my career, and even before that, I was a HUGE tactical whore. Every knife I owned had the word plastered all over the box. But as I got a little bit older, I realized the importance of having something functional, over something flashy.

The important thing to remember when you are buying not just a knife, but ANY tool that you are using in your professional life is that, at any time, when the tones hit, you and your tools could be the only thing standing between sending a Dept. get well soon card, and going to a funeral. People grossly underestimate the difference between a bargain knife they get off the clearance shelf, and a quality tool.

Two is one, and one is none. This is probably the main reason for my vendetta against multi function, job specific tools. If youíve got one knife that has a blade, a belt cutter, and a window breaker built into it, you probably are going to be tempted to carry that, and only that. You drop that tool, or break it, and your done. Out of service, and of no use to your patient or your brothers standing next to you.

Now, I get to my final point. When I first started fighting fires as a volunteer. The day that DCI background check came back I went out and bought myself a shiny new Benchmade Triage. After carrying it for a couple weeks, the honeymoon phase wore off, and I started to notice the inherent problems that come with cramming a bunch of different accessories into one tool. It was bulky, HEAVY, and weak because the frame was compromised by hiding the belt cutter. Now, this is a good knife, great blade material, and if you insist on buying a job specific multi tool, itís the blade for you. It is the best you can buy.

My co-workers call me crazy for the number of tools I carry. But guess who they come to on a scene when they need a tool. My primary blade, and the love of my life is a Benchmade BK942. I have had it for 3 years, and it has never once let me down. I also carry a CRKT Ignitor T as a my back up, mainly because of its aggressive serrations. (low quality, but sturdy) I also carry my sexy hot pink trauma shears through the belt loop in the small of my back, and a Leatherman Wave. (none of that Gerber crap) Also carry a Streamlight Protac 2L, but flashlights are a whole different argument. I genuinely donít understand people, public servants in particular, who carry pos blades like SOG, Gerber, Boker, and Smith and Wesson. To me, CRKT, Spyderco, and Kershaw are borderline. Suitable for backups, but not for something you are going to potentially be using to save lives.

Bottom line, you want to have a tool that you can truly use, and be proud to own, cough up the $150-$300 for a Benchmade, or something of equal quality. (If you havenít figured out yet, Iím a walking Bencmade billboard) Donít let a few bucks stand between someone living and dying, especially yourself.

FLglockdude
01-04-2013, 22:38
Holy thread revival batman!

Sent from my Obama phone.

RyanNREMTP
01-05-2013, 15:35
Epi does work on CPRs.

I routinely carry about three or four knives on me when I'm on the box. Two are Gerbers, one is a Kershaw and the other is a S&W neck knife. All four have been used for different things.

DGreno
01-05-2013, 23:37
Holy thread revival batman!
:agree:

Da-Squad
01-06-2013, 06:32
Early in my career nobody wore seats belts and I carried a Haligan for glass. Later on I carried five Firefighters in the rig and they worked extremely well.:supergrin:

4Rules
01-06-2013, 08:52
The day that DCI background check came back I went out and bought myself a shiny new Benchmade Triage...Now, this is a good knife, great blade material, and if you insist on buying a job specific multi tool, itís the blade for you. It is the best you can buy.

You have tried the Gerber Hinderer, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc18cSTnXZs

http://www.gerbergear.com/Tactical/Knives/Hinderer-Rescue-Knife_22-41534

Arc Angel
01-06-2013, 09:11
Not an EMT, not a fireman, not in law enforcement; but I do carry this and love it!

http://imageshack.us/a/img443/9830/victorinox54900rescueto.jpg

Here's the video.

Victorinox - Swiss Army Knife - Rescue Tool - YouTube

(Wouldn't be in a car crash without one!) :supergrin:

4095fanatic
01-11-2013, 15:07
I have a CRKT M16 for general knife work, and a Blackhwak HawkHook for window and seatbelt duty.

nursetim
01-11-2013, 15:25
Surefire delta folder. You are welcome. Of course if you loose it, you'll wish you had something sharp to hari kari with.

tallen122
01-15-2013, 19:35
Leatherman just came out with a new model but i think it has a pointed blade. Meets all the other criteria though.

kurt1305
01-15-2013, 20:23
I carry a Benchmade Griptilian and an original Leatherman tool.

Tvov
12-30-2013, 11:04
I just got this as a gift. I'll throw it in with my gear and see how it works... it will be interesting to see if it gets used more than my Leatherman (which is used more for its pliers than anything else). I was a little surprised to see what the full retail price for the Victorinox is: $105 ! So I'll give it a try.

Not an EMT, not a fireman, not in law enforcement; but I do carry this and love it!

http://imageshack.us/a/img443/9830/victorinox54900rescueto.jpg

Here's the video.

Victorinox - Swiss Army Knife - Rescue Tool - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zApUSw0xsRY)

(Wouldn't be in a car crash without one!) :supergrin: