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In the US, we have to register our NFA items (Full Auto, suppressed, short barrel, etc).
In other countries where a citizen is allowed to own such weapons, is there any resources that might enlighten us as to the crime rates in those countries or even better might show us how the number or percentage of crimes that those weapons are used in?
Thanks
-Emt1581
Google it bro, doubt it though.
Example is CanaDUH. They Don't have BBL length restrictions on rifles and shotguns I believe.
That's odd. You could be right about the shotty and rifles but I thought their pistols had to be at least 5inches or something like that.
Definitly backwards lawmakers if what you AND I saw is both true.
Thanks for the reply :)
-Emt1581
Meman5150
09-20-2005, 23:51
emt I like how you have good topics, thank you.
Barrel length requirements are academic in nature and vary wildly from country to country, but I don't think anyone seriously believes that barrel length contributes to anything. THe only reason we have barrel length regulations here is due to a clerical error in the NFA that had originally included handguns under it's purview, and added OAL and barrel length requirements to prevent people from 'cutting down' a long gun into a 'restricted' handgun. With no regulations on handguns, the barrel length requirements have absolutely no basis in logic.
In Canada, handguns have to bear a certain barrel legnth, while 'restricted' class long guns can have any barrel legnth they want.
Anyway, there are very few Caucasian nations that allow ownership of full auto weapons to the degree that we do (that is to say, anyone with enough money can have it if they want without having to bribe any officials).
Canada allows it, but only to owners who had FA weapons prior to 1976. They can sell and trade amongst themselves but no new FA owners can enter teh system. Furthermore, once those owners die, the guns cannot be willed to heirs, so Canadian FA ownership is a seriously dwindling thing as owners die off every year.
France allowed it with certain restrictions up to 1996 (in very limited numbers), but things got much tougher after the passed new laws affecting purchase and transfer.
A couple countries in Scandinavia permit FA ownership (Norway and Finland that I know of) with a 'Collectors Permit' but it isn't as easy to get as one might think. It isn't like you fill out a few papers, pay a little money and all of a sudden you can buy whatever you want. There are procedural requirements and a vetting process that ensures the owner is a bona fide 'collector' of firearms.
New Zealand permits FA ownership with a similar 'collectors' permit but you aren't allowed to actually shoot them.
So, what good is that.
Israel allows FA ownership, but restricts it mainly to settlers and certain select individuals. It isn't like you can just walk into Shlomos Guns and purchase a crate of UZIs.
Of course, Switzerland allows it but it isn’t nearly the Gun Mecca that people think. There are still procedural requirements.
Most of the other reasonably civil nations that permit FA ownership (Like the Philippines, a few Central American nations, a few in Eastern Europe, etc) do so with a 'police permit' that pretty much revolves around who you pay off.
That said, FA ownership in such countries isn't a 'recreational' thing like it is here, but rather a tool that's used to protect ones own ass.
Of course, none of this takes into account unrestricted FA ownership in 3rd World crapholes where a ‘machinegun’ means something entirely different to them than it does to you or I.
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