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WEATHERBY460
09-25-2005, 05:15
I am looking at maybe a new gto, charger, or even a used vette thats a few years old. I don't really want to spend over 35,000. Pledse help me get some ideas. If I can't find what I am looking for exactly, I think I might go then for a ford or dodge diesal truck. Thanks.

Rob1035
09-25-2005, 08:37
I live the 05 GTO, they are all over Ebay for $30k and under. You just have to decide what you want, as a corvette, GTO, and Charger are all drastically different cars.

Asha'man
09-25-2005, 10:20
'03-'04 Cobra. You can pick one up for $25k-ish used, and with a thousand bucks in mods you'll be laying down close to 500rwhp.

Brian

epsylum
09-25-2005, 14:42
Originally posted by Asha'man
'03-'04 Cobra. You can pick one up for $25k-ish used, and with a thousand bucks in mods you'll be laying down close to 500rwhp.

Brian

+1

I read a performance comparo between the GTO (the 5.7 lter one) and a Mustang Mach I the Mach I beat the crap out of it everywhere but in comfort.

The Cobra makes the Mach I look like a V-6. The new Cobra (GT 500) is supposed to stay under the 35k mark and have 450-500 hp stock. Not to mention the same supercharger tricks used on the 03-04 will still work (smaller SC pulleys and shuch). I could see an easy 550-600 rwp for well under 40k with the new ones.

DaisyCutter
09-25-2005, 17:11
I'd aim for a classic Corvette or other "classic" car. Get one that is appreciating in value

Ron3
09-25-2005, 21:02
GTO's are really heavy. So is the Charger. I believe both are around 3800lbs.

I'd go for the '03-'04 Cobra, '03-'04 Mach 1, Corvette, Mitsubishi Evo, Subaru WRX or WRX STI (If you can handle it's appearance)

The cars I listed here are all well under $35000 except the Corvette depending what year you get.

Ron3

Nelybarg
09-25-2005, 21:14
second on the WRX STi or the Mistu EVO. yes they're imports. they're faster than (insert expletive) and they're all wheel drive.

you'll hear domestic vs. import arguments, blah blah blah. go drive one, you'll fall in lust.

Rob1035
09-25-2005, 21:16
there's always the 93-98 Toyota Supra Turbo, which can get stupid power, and is built to take it...

Local guy daily drives his with a 5xxwhp "conservative tune"

DaisyCutter
09-25-2005, 21:17
An import will never be this cool:

Corvette for sale from Cn'V Corvette Sales - Arizona, USA - Print version

1965 Corvette Bright Blue Convertible
Matching #'s Roadster $38,500
This California Street Cruiser has Bright Blue exterior with front and rear flared wheelwells. Correct grille. Factory side exhaust. Hardtop only. Matching numbers 327-350hp engine with correct components, 4 Speed with original shifter. Excellent Black interior. Original am-fm. Cragar S/S chromed mags with white lettered radials. New rear quarter panels go with this car. $38,500 More Pictures Soon.


http://www.liveupdater.com/cnv/ImageLibrary/65brtbluecv.jpg

In 10 years a Subaru import will be worth $6,000. The 'vette will be worth $60,000.

G27dogmannfl
09-26-2005, 19:37
Originally posted by DaisyCutter
An import will never be this cool:

Corvette for sale from Cn'V Corvette Sales - Arizona, USA - Print version

1965 Corvette Bright Blue Convertible
Matching #'s Roadster $38,500
This California Street Cruiser has Bright Blue exterior with front and rear flared wheelwells. Correct grille. Factory side exhaust. Hardtop only. Matching numbers 327-350hp engine with correct components, 4 Speed with original shifter. Excellent Black interior. Original am-fm. Cragar S/S chromed mags with white lettered radials. New rear quarter panels go with this car. $38,500 More Pictures Soon.


http://www.liveupdater.com/cnv/ImageLibrary/65brtbluecv.jpg

In 10 years a Subaru import will be worth $6,000. The 'vette will be worth $60,000.

now thats a car that makes you fall in lust just looking at it

wizzi01
09-26-2005, 19:58
Originally posted by DaisyCutter
An import will never be this cool:

Corvette for sale from Cn'V Corvette Sales - Arizona, USA - Print version

1965 Corvette Bright Blue Convertible
Matching #'s Roadster $38,500
This California Street Cruiser has Bright Blue exterior with front and rear flared wheelwells. Correct grille. Factory side exhaust. Hardtop only. Matching numbers 327-350hp engine with correct components, 4 Speed with original shifter. Excellent Black interior. Original am-fm. Cragar S/S chromed mags with white lettered radials. New rear quarter panels go with this car. $38,500 More Pictures Soon.


http://www.liveupdater.com/cnv/ImageLibrary/65brtbluecv.jpg

In 10 years a Subaru import will be worth $6,000. The 'vette will be worth $60,000.

Now if that was a 69 camaro rs/ss convertible you would be talking.

vart
09-26-2005, 20:58
I would consider the new Dodge Charger SRT-8...The numbers are quite impressive;) . It puts out 425hp; same as the original 426 HEMI but with fewer cubic inches.
I read a Motor Trend article on the SRT-8 HEMI motor in a Dodge Magnum and they said that Dodge's goal was to match the power numbers of the original motor.
Back in `69 or so, they ran an actual street 425hp HEMI on a dyno with no accesories robbing it of power or a restrictive exhaust system. It put out 467hp. Motor Trend reported that the same was done with the new motor, and incredibly, it also cranked out 467hp;P .
The article reported track times of 12-sec quarter miles and 0-60 in the sub 5-sec range; that's in a heavier Magnum body;) .
This car packs some serious power in a car that is more comfortable than a Mustang and doesn't carry the image of being a frat boy with too much money;) .

http://www.dodge.com/autoshow/img/gallery/enlarge/charger_srt8/charger_gallery_03.jpg

http://www.dodge.com/autoshow/img/gallery/enlarge/charger_srt8/charger_gallery_05.jpg

Rob1035
09-26-2005, 21:09
but will it have a stick shift? Or will they pull an "AMG" and make all their hot cars slushboxes...

SilverState
09-26-2005, 21:13
Guys, the Street Race Technology (SRT) Charger and the Shelby Cobra are way out of this guy's price limit.

The GTO is within his limit and makes around 400hp. Afterall, it does have the new Corvette engine.

Now for those of you have have suggested a used Cobra, let me note that you could buy a used Corvette Z06 and for about a grand, make about 550rwhp and run about 11 seconds flat in the quarter on some cheater slicks or drag radials.

And for those of you that say it can't be done, I have done it. I had to sell it when my wife had a baby and now have an '04 M3. Not quite a Vette, but 333hp and 0-60 in under 5 seconds stock is nothing to laugh at (even with the car seat in the back). But the M3 is also out of this guy's price range, so once again I think you can't go wrong with the GTO for under $35K or a used Z06 ('02-'04) for the same price.

vart
09-26-2005, 21:36
Originally posted by SilverState
Guys, the Street Race Technology (SRT) Charger and the Shelby Cobra are way out of this guy's price limit.


The SRT-8 has a suggested retail of $39k; I'm pretty certain he could walk out the door with one for $35k;) .

Asha'man
09-26-2005, 23:30
Originally posted by SilverState
Guys, the Street Race Technology (SRT) Charger and the Shelby Cobra are way out of this guy's price limit.

The GTO is within his limit and makes around 400hp. Afterall, it does have the new Corvette engine.

Now for those of you have have suggested a used Cobra, let me note that you could buy a used Corvette Z06 and for about a grand, make about 550rwhp and run about 11 seconds flat in the quarter on some cheater slicks or drag radials.

And for those of you that say it can't be done, I have done it. I had to sell it when my wife had a baby and now have an '04 M3. Not quite a Vette, but 333hp and 0-60 in under 5 seconds stock is nothing to laugh at (even with the car seat in the back). But the M3 is also out of this guy's price range, so once again I think you can't go wrong with the GTO for under $35K or a used Z06 ('02-'04) for the same price.

I hear ya on the Z06, although I don't think you could find a used one as cheap as a used Terminator ('03-'04 Cobra). Depends on if he wants a backseat and the ability to haul some stuff or not. My buddy gets two drag radials on Prostars into his '03 GT no problem, since the back seats fold down to lengthen the trunk. The Vette can't carry much but a golf bag. ;)

I'll disagree on the GTO suggestion - they're not that fast for what they are (LS1-powered cars) and they look like a Sunfire or Crapalier. Maybe the 400hp LS2 cars are better, I haven't seen many around yet.

Brian

Asha'man
09-26-2005, 23:31
BTW SilverState, what'd you do to the Z for under a grand to net 550rwhp? All I can think of is nitrous. ;)

Brian

epsylum
09-27-2005, 14:36
Originally posted by Rob1035
there's always the 93-98 Toyota Supra Turbo, which can get stupid power, and is built to take it...

Local guy daily drives his with a 5xxwhp "conservative tune"

I can't believe I forgot about that one. One of my all time favs.

Yeah 500 rwhp and it's barely even breaking a sweat.

www.suprastore.com

^ cool stuff

fnfalman
09-27-2005, 15:07
Fast car under $35K...How fast is fast? If you want fast-fast then it's hard to beat a used Corvette Z06. Used 'Vettes can easily be had under $35K. If you want moderately fast but brand new then those rice burner turbocharged AWD jobbers like the Lancer Evolution and the STi are hard to beat. Used Mustang Cobras are fast, but I wouldn't have anything to do with the crappy chassis. The Charger and the GTO V8s are fast, but they are sedans and their chasses don't appeal to me either.

One might be able to find a used BMW M3 E46 for under $35k. After all, they've been out since 2001 or 2002.

WEATHERBY460
09-27-2005, 16:00
thanks for the help guys, but i still don't know what to focus on. I like the gto, but it just seems on the small side to me. The charger is nice, but after having a dodge ram truck the last 6 years, I am a little turned off by dodge vehicles, will not buy import, and am anti-mustang, have owned a camaro since i was 16....but saddened, they don't make them anymore. The corvette is what I want, but the wife and me might be having a kid in the next couple years and she doesn't like the idea of no backseat for a carseat..........there has got to be something out there to suit me?????.

Rob1035
09-27-2005, 16:48
Welp, if the GTO is too small, anti-dodge, you won't buy an import, are anti-mustang, and you need a back seat, there really isn't much left that I can think of...


Originally posted by WEATHERBY460
thanks for the help guys, but i still don't know what to focus on. I like the gto, but it just seems on the small side to me. The charger is nice, but after having a dodge ram truck the last 6 years, I am a little turned off by dodge vehicles, will not buy import, and am anti-mustang, have owned a camaro since i was 16....but saddened, they don't make them anymore. The corvette is what I want, but the wife and me might be having a kid in the next couple years and she doesn't like the idea of no backseat for a carseat..........there has got to be something out there to suit me?????.

WEATHERBY460
09-27-2005, 18:32
lol....dang......then cummins turbo diesel it might be...

vart
09-27-2005, 20:04
http://www.fast-autos.net/chevrolet/06impalass6.jpg

http://www.fast-autos.net/chevrolet/06impalass5.jpg

2006 Chevy Impala SS with the new LS4 5.3 V-8 produces 303hp and 323 ft. lbs. of torque.

vart
09-27-2005, 20:11
Of course, if you might be getting a kid, then why not get a Corvette LS2 6.0 V8 in an SUV?
2006 Trailblazer SS sports 391 hp and runs 0-60 in 5.7 secs;)

http://a904.g.akamai.net/7/904/506/v0011/www.autobytel.com/images/2006/Chevrolet/Trailblazer_SS/400/2006_chevrolet_Trailblazer_SS_exfrdrvr34.jpg

vart
09-27-2005, 20:21
How about the 2006 Pontiac Gran Prix GXP with a 303hp V8? $29k for the top of the line GXP and get a supercharger for around $4k that pushes the hp to 400. They are completely re-engineered and they are claiming 28 mpg with this new V8;P .

Plus, I like the looks of them;)

http://www.pontiac.com/images/gallery/grandprix/sm_image22_lrg.jpg

http://www.pontiac.com/images/gallery/grandprix/sm_image19_lrg.jpg

SilverState
09-27-2005, 20:31
Originally posted by Asha'man
BTW SilverState, what'd you do to the Z for under a grand to net 550rwhp? All I can think of is nitrous. ;)

Brian

NX wet, bottle heater, two inline n2o solenoids (for safety), rpm switch PLUS full-throttle switch PLUS low fuel pressure shutoff.

I actually had a few more things done, but I could have made the same power with the nitrous only, I just would have less power for daily driving.

I made 397rwhp with the stock heads, stock cam, stock rockers, stock intake, etc.

LS1 edit and lots of wideband time ;)

wizzi01
09-27-2005, 21:08
Isn't that new Grand Prix going to be FWD though?

Asha'man
09-28-2005, 00:10
GXP and Impala are both FWD. Front wheel drive = LAME.

Silver - sounds like a nice setup. Probably had some crazy torque numbers on the bottle, eh?

Brian

vart
09-28-2005, 06:41
Originally posted by Asha'man
GXP and Impala are both FWD. Front wheel drive = LAME.


Okay, genius, name a car that is made by Ford or Chevy, RWD, 300hp or more, and has seating capacity of least 4 for under $35k that is not a Mustang.

I would have mentioned the Mercury Marauder, but I have a feeling he wouldn't have gone for one.

epsylum
09-28-2005, 10:46
Originally posted by vart
Okay, genius, name a car that is made by Ford or Chevy, RWD, 300hp or more, and has seating capacity of least 4 for under $35k that is not a Mustang.

I would have mentioned the Mercury Marauder, but I have a feeling he wouldn't have gone for one.

I agree with the FWD is lame statement. Just because they don't offer them doen't mean it's okay.

BTW my Dad had a Maruader. Cool car. Just wish it wasn't a company lease car so he could play with it and not have to give it back.

fnfalman
09-28-2005, 11:04
The Mercury Marauder hasn't been made for a couple of years now, right? Not only that but it wasn't that fast, 300-hp V8 and all.

Uzzirider
09-28-2005, 11:30
Originally posted by WEATHERBY460
The corvette is what I want, but the wife and me might be having a kid in the next couple years and she doesn't like the idea of no backseat for a carseat..........there has got to be something out there to suit me?????.
Yes, I've just the answer. Buy an '02 Z06 and get the girl on the pill. Invest what you would have spent on poopy diapers into motor mods, and you'll be untouchable! Bonus points if you refer to the Z as your "baby".
With any luck, you'll soon be single and can throw down for some nice wheels!

http://www.drevs.com/59o.jpg

Asha'man
09-29-2005, 00:25
Originally posted by vart
Okay, genius, name a car that is made by Ford or Chevy, RWD, 300hp or more, and has seating capacity of least 4 for under $35k that is not a Mustang.

Okay, "genius", name a true performance car that has ever been FWD. ;Q I do like the GTP/GXP series, but that doesn't mean that FWD doesn't suck.

P71 Crown Vic with a DOHC swap and a blower = way less than $35,000. :)

Brian

streeter69
09-29-2005, 06:43
Altho I am not a fan of dodge, I do like the these http://www.allpar.com/cars/lx/dodge-charger.html

But, if I wanted a comfortable 4 seater that has over 300 HP I would get one of these
http://www.ford-trucks.com/specs/2003/2003_harley_f150.html

Rob1035
09-29-2005, 06:53
Originally posted by Asha'man
Okay, "genius", name a true performance car that has ever been FWD. ;Q

Integra Type R?

vart
09-29-2005, 07:18
Originally posted by Asha'man
Okay, "genius", name a true performance car that has ever been FWD. ;Q I do like the GTP/GXP series, but that doesn't mean that FWD doesn't suck.

P71 Crown Vic with a DOHC swap and a blower = way less than $35,000. :)

Brian
The original poster didn't ask for a "true performance" car, but a fast car for under $35k...;n

arrowdriver
09-29-2005, 11:15
Sounds like one of the few options left would be a used Camaro or Firebird/TA.

fnfalman
09-29-2005, 15:20
Originally posted by Asha'man
Okay, "genius", name a true performance car that has ever been FWD.

Brian

Diamond-Star twins (aka Eagle Talon and Mitsubishi Eclipse FWD turbos).;)

Get the Chrysler 300C V-8. It's not a "Dodge"...

epsylum
09-29-2005, 17:07
Originally posted by fnfalman
The Mercury Marauder hasn't been made for a couple of years now, right? Not only that but it wasn't that fast, 300-hp V8 and all.

My dad had an article with the Marauder slightly edging out a then new 540i (or whatever the base V-8 5 series Beemer was). It even had better handling numbers.

04 was the last year for the Marauder.

kawalerzysta
09-29-2005, 18:32
Originally posted by WEATHERBY460
I am looking at maybe a new gto, charger, or even a used vette thats a few years old. I don't really want to spend over 35,000. Pledse help me get some ideas. If I can't find what I am looking for exactly, I think I might go then for a ford or dodge diesal truck. Thanks.
Try Nissan 350Z

Rob1035
09-29-2005, 18:41
hey needs a back seat, and won't buy imports;g

disco stu
09-29-2005, 18:42
you can find 2002-2003 Corvette coupes with low mileage for under $30K. Insurance on them is a lot cheaper than most people think. I pay $620/6 months for coverage on mine and my 86 K Blazer

Maxthemutt
09-29-2005, 18:49
What about a used Cadillac CTS-V. It seems to meet your criteria and should be around $35 used.

gixxer11
09-29-2005, 21:10
Originally posted by epsylum
My dad had an article with the Marauder slightly edging out a then new 540i (or whatever the base V-8 5 series Beemer was). It even had better handling numbers.

04 was the last year for the Marauder.

Yep, not dogging BMWs or anything, but it was a pretty cool car IMO. Too bad it wasn't supercharged, then it would really piss off fnfalman;)

Asha'man
09-29-2005, 23:22
Okay, so he said a "fast car" for under $35k. The FWD DSM is the only thing that I can think of that would fall under that category (and yes it did slip my mind when I posted). The Type R is not particularly fast; it's more of a handling car. I would discount it from the running.

Both cars are still out of the OP's consideration because they're imports.

I would actually pimp an SRT Magnum or 300C. :) Except he doesn't like Dodges. ;Q

Brian

Rob1035
09-30-2005, 08:10
Neon SRT4? Those are quick for fwd, but again, dodge...

Asha'man
09-30-2005, 13:37
Forgot about that one too. ;Q See, my mind completely overlooks FWD when I think about fast cars. Wonder if there's a reason for that. ;)

Brian

fnfalman
09-30-2005, 15:00
Originally posted by Rob1035
hey needs a back seat, and won't buy imports;g

I take it that the Pontiac GTO (aka Holden Monaro from the Land Down Under) and the Cadillac CST-V (Opel of Germany) wouldn't qualify under your non-import criterion then.

Methinks that you either will have to buy a Mustang (make sure that it isn't made in either Mexico or Canada;) ) or buy something really old when American cars were American made.

epsylum
09-30-2005, 17:47
Originally posted by fnfalman

Methinks that you either will have to buy a Mustang (make sure that it isn't made in either Mexico or Canada;) ) or buy something really old when American cars were American made.

Or buy an American made Honda or Toyota ;f

vart
09-30-2005, 18:47
I think he should just buy the Charger; it meets all of his criteria except that he had a bad experience with a Dodge truck (actually, lots of people have). My 2005 Town & Country has been a great vehicle so far;)

triggerjerk
09-30-2005, 22:48
I'd say go for a used C5 Z06 or an '05 GTO.
Be warned however, the torque management on the GTO will bite you if you try to mod/run at a dragstrip. LS2 edit isn't out yet for it. Either way, if you get a goat, its gotta be a stick.

Terminator 'Stangs have their problems too:
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12489

WEATHERBY460
10-01-2005, 09:28
THANKS FOR THE HELP PEOPLE.......

dealing on a new gto.....its around 31,000 out the door with a 33,500 list price.

the 350z is an option also i forgot about, i do like those cars, and also the cadi's.

i just can't swing a vette incase we have kids anytime soon, and i imagine the gto would be better for gas miliage then a vette and also better insurance.

what about the caddi's, ..what can you tell me about them?

walangkatapat
10-01-2005, 10:56
Originally posted by WEATHERBY460
THANKS FOR THE HELP PEOPLE.......

dealing on a new gto.....its around 31,000 out the door with a 33,500 list price.

the 350z is an option also i forgot about, i do like those cars, and also the cadi's.

i just can't swing a vette incase we have kids anytime soon, and i imagine the gto would be better for gas miliage then a vette and also better insurance.

what about the caddi's, ..what can you tell me about them?

I'm not so sure about better gas mileage. The GTO is around 3800lbs if I remember correctly and the Vette is what, 3200lbs? What's the epa mileage say? As for insurance I'd check in with your insurance agent. One guy I know said that insurance for a Vette was cheaper than a Camaro, he was around 37 years of age at the time. The reasoning was that most Camaro owners are younger and most Vette owners are older drivers, this younger driver may hold true for the GTO as well. Whatever you decide to do the GTO should be a pretty decent car(V8,400 horses, rear wheel drive, yeah!). BTW, if you have kids the minivan will be in your future. ;)

Rob1035
10-01-2005, 11:33
Originally posted by walangkatapat
BTW, if you have kids the minivan will be in your future. ;)

haha, never! THat's what hot station wagons are for!
http://www.rogueengineering.com/pics/e46_wagon/web1_600.jpg

walangkatapat
10-01-2005, 12:12
Too small for my family.;)

epsylum
10-01-2005, 13:52
Originally posted by Rob1035
haha, never! THat's what hot station wagons are for!
http://www.rogueengineering.com/pics/e46_wagon/web1_600.jpg

NICE!!

^c ^c

vart
10-01-2005, 23:26
Then at least get a station wagon that can run low 13's^c :

http://www.motorweb.no/artikler/nyheter/2003-03-04/2003-03-04-Dodge-Magnum-SRT-8-Sports-T-01.jpg

RoninP80
10-06-2005, 20:52
Originally posted by WEATHERBY460
I am looking at maybe a new gto, charger, or even a used vette thats a few years old. I don't really want to spend over 35,000. Pledse help me get some ideas. ........

you want fast/$? C5 CORVETTE.

no doubt. any year. there are tons of them out there that have been garage queens, and we're coming up on the best time of year to buy them (Dec-Feb). I picked up a beautiful 99 6 speed blk/blk coupe, Mags, Z-51 suspension, etc... w/stock drivetrain, and a little minor tuning, 180 MPH, decent gas mileage, very drivable (cruising at 100 MPH is like 2100 RPM). bought it last December for about 21,500$, with <25,000 miles on it.

vart
10-07-2005, 04:53
Originally posted by RoninP80
you want fast/$? C5 CORVETTE.

no doubt. any year. there are tons of them out there that have been garage queens, and we're coming up on the best time of year to buy them (Dec-Feb). I picked up a beautiful 99 6 speed blk/blk coupe, Mags, Z-51 suspension, etc... w/stock drivetrain, and a little minor tuning, 180 MPH, decent gas mileage, very drivable (cruising at 100 MPH is like 2100 RPM). bought it last December for about 21,500$, with <25,000 miles on it.
Got room for a car seat and stroller in that? He needs 3rd passenger capability. Thanks for playing.

Rob1035
10-07-2005, 05:33
again, that means the 350Z isn't an option either...


Maybe the Lancer Evo Wagon?
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/features/general/mitsubishi.lancer.evolution.ix.wagon/06.mitsubishi.evo9.wagon.drift.500.jpg
http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/images/lancer-evo-wagon-1.jpg

~ 280hp, AWD, 6 Speed, etc etc. Too bad its Japan only:(

45acp4me
10-07-2005, 08:06
Originally posted by vart
Then at least get a station wagon that can run low 13's^c :

http://www.motorweb.no/artikler/nyheter/2003-03-04/2003-03-04-Dodge-Magnum-SRT-8-Sports-T-01.jpg

It can run 13's, but it will scare small children from it's looks.

MIgunner
10-07-2005, 15:29
Originally posted by epsylum
+1

I read a performance comparo between the GTO (the 5.7 lter one) and a Mustang Mach I the Mach I beat the crap out of it everywhere but in comfort.

The Cobra makes the Mach I look like a V-6. The new Cobra (GT 500) is supposed to stay under the 35k mark and have 450-500 hp stock. Not to mention the same supercharger tricks used on the 03-04 will still work (smaller SC pulleys and shuch). I could see an easy 550-600 rwp for well under 40k with the new ones.

The new gtos are the most over rated cars around. I have never seen one run better then high 13's. Most run in the low 14 second range. The Mach 1 mustang dosnt look anything like a v6 mustang, and im pretty sure it couldnt even hang with the gto. Also the new 06 cobras are supposed to be closer to 60k not 30k... If you want straight on speed get an 03 cobra. You will get smoked in the corners. Get an Evolution VIII if you want all around speed. The evo also has awd so you can have fun in the winter.

RoninP80
10-07-2005, 16:37
Originally posted by vart
Got room for a car seat and stroller in that? He needs 3rd passenger capability. Thanks for playing.

sounded like the Dude was considering a Vette;

"......... I am looking at maybe a new gto, charger, or even a used vette thats a few years old. I don't......."

Your welcome

epsylum
10-07-2005, 17:00
Originally posted by MIgunner
The new gtos are the most over rated cars around. I have never seen one run better then high 13's. Most run in the low 14 second range. The Mach 1 mustang dosnt look anything like a v6 mustang, and im pretty sure it couldnt even hang with the gto. Also the new 06 cobras are supposed to be closer to 60k not 30k... If you want straight on speed get an 03 cobra. You will get smoked in the corners. Get an Evolution VIII if you want all around speed. The evo also has awd so you can have fun in the winter.

Umm first I said the Cobra MAKES the Mach I look like a V-6 (as in performace, not actual looks).

And yes, the Mach 1 is quicker than the 5.7 powered GTOs. It's about .5 to a full second quicker through the quarter. No "I think" about it. Now granted a good driver in the GTO could make up for it, but on average the Mach I is faster.

Sir Hacksalot
10-10-2005, 12:07
Find a low mileage, unmolested 2003 or 2004 SVT Cobra.

Do the following:New shifter, smaller blower pulley, open up the exhaust, add a CAI and a chip tune, and go destroy Vipers and Vettes at will.

If you shop right, you can do this for under around $30k or less.

Sir Hacksalot

walangkatapat
10-10-2005, 22:40
Originally posted by RoninP80
you want fast/$? C5 CORVETTE.

no doubt. any year. there are tons of them out there that have been garage queens, and we're coming up on the best time of year to buy them (Dec-Feb). I picked up a beautiful 99 6 speed blk/blk coupe, Mags, Z-51 suspension, etc... w/stock drivetrain, and a little minor tuning, 180 MPH, decent gas mileage, very drivable (cruising at 100 MPH is like 2100 RPM). bought it last December for about 21,500$, with <25,000 miles on it.

Wow! My goal before I'm forty five.

Rob1035
10-10-2005, 22:58
FWIW, I'm starting to see early Porsche 996s with asking prices in the $30s......

BigC3031
10-13-2005, 17:18
you want a cool ride look for a 68-72 Chevy Nova that has been redone by someone else. The Nova can be had for little since everyone just looks at the 69 Camaro and 70 Chevelle SS. Insurance is dirt cheap and so is the registration. Alot of people have put huge cash into these and sell them for below what they put into it. Nova's share the same front subframe/suspension as the 69 camaro and you can buy everysingle part ever made from many places.

I am building one right now that will be around 20-25K have 500HP/500Ftlbs. 5 speed overdrive, AC. and will kill any production car out there.

Rob1035
10-13-2005, 17:21
what about turning and stopping though? I never knew old domestics to excel at that


I wonder if the OG poster got that GTO?

BigC3031
10-13-2005, 17:28
new tubular control arms, front and rear anti sway bars, adjustable shocks, new springs, 4 wheel 4 piston power disc brakes just to name a few.

She'll stop and turn on a dime and should handle a skid pad quite well.

Clem Eastwood
10-14-2005, 14:02
for 35K i could build a reliable 9 second 1/4 mile fox body mustang and that would be legal to race, and not cobbled together. im talkin' 700hp at the rear wheels.

Ron3
10-16-2005, 00:29
Originally posted by MIgunner
Also the new 06 cobras are supposed to be closer to 60k not 30k...

There is no '05 or '06 Cobra. There will be an '07 model that dealers will take delivery on probobly next summer. It's currently called the Shelby Cobra GT500. The MSRP will be between $35K-$40K.

Ron3

45acp4me
10-16-2005, 09:48
Originally posted by Clem Eastwood
for 35K i could build a reliable 9 second 1/4 mile fox body mustang and that would be legal to race, and not cobbled together. im talkin' 700hp at the rear wheels.

Comes with a standard factory warranty and is great in snow too. ;f

Clem Eastwood
10-16-2005, 17:02
Originally posted by 45acp4me
Comes with a standard factory warranty and is great in snow too. ;f

no 'fast' car comes with a warranty. buy an 90 dodge dynasty as a winter beater for a $300.

BigC3031
10-16-2005, 18:52
charger and magnum are tanks, great power, poor power to weight ratio, still nice in my opinion though.

People that have not driven front wheel drive say they aren't/can't be fast(although they are not my fav either). The GXP is FAST. The SRT-4 is awesome but insurance will make you hurt.

Test drive a bunch of cars and see what you like the most, I bet you will get surprised by more than one car.

45acp4me
10-16-2005, 21:07
Originally posted by Clem Eastwood
no 'fast' car comes with a warranty. buy an 90 dodge dynasty as a winter beater for a $300.

More like buy a three or four year old decent used car and keep the nine second one as a garage queen.

Super built up cars are rarely reliable, they suck gas, give you a headache on the freeway from the noise and just are not a comfortable ride.

How many people do you see using a nine second car as a daily driver complete with A/C, a good sound system and tires that actually work in the rain?

vart
10-16-2005, 22:10
Originally posted by 45acp4me
How many people do you see using a nine second car as a daily driver complete with A/C, a good sound system and tires that actually work in the rain?
This is an 11-second car that was driven every day, including during snow storms. It also had a nice sound system and AC;) :
<img src='http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/14007/200282211448-2-95gsx2.jpg.JPG' width=640 height=480 >

<img src='http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/14007/200282211452-5-95gsx3.jpg.JPG' width=640 height=480 >

Clem Eastwood
10-16-2005, 22:13
Originally posted by 45acp4me
More like buy a three or four year old decent used car and keep the nine second one as a garage queen.

Super built up cars are rarely reliable, they suck gas, give you a headache on the freeway from the noise and just are not a comfortable ride.

How many people do you see using a nine second car as a daily driver complete with A/C, a good sound system and tires that actually work in the rain?

you obviously havent built any late model fuel injected, power adder cars. they are quite reliable. if you want a/c and all that bs then you better buy yourself something. but it wont run anywhere near what you could with something you can build.

45acp4me
10-17-2005, 08:20
Originally posted by vart
This is an 11-second car that was driven every day, including during snow storms. It also had a nice sound system and AC;) :
<img src='http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/14007/200282211448-2-95gsx2.jpg.JPG' width=640 height=480 >

<img src='http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/14007/200282211452-5-95gsx3.jpg.JPG' width=640 height=480 >

Sorry, but I know better than to believe there is such a thing as a reliable 11 second DSM car. I owned one for five years.


As for a 9 second reliable and streetable daily driver 9 second car, show me one or two, please as they must exist.

Sir Hacksalot
10-17-2005, 08:44
Originally posted by Clem Eastwood
for 35K i could build a reliable 9 second 1/4 mile fox body mustang and that would be legal to race, and not cobbled together. im talkin' 700hp at the rear wheels.

OK, give me your set up for a 1987-1993 Mustang that is capable of running a 9.99 or faster on PUMP GAS, have a working Air conditioner, be capable of taking a fairly long road trip, and deliver better than 15 mpg in town and 20 mpg or better on the highway, and can idle in traffic all day long without overheating, and is also capable of good braking and handling, and is mild mannered enough for just about anyone to drive.

Dude, I LOVE Fox body mustangs, but that combination simply cannot be built for under $35K...ain't gonna happen.

The ONLY mustang that I have ever seen that came close to that was owned by Lidio Llacabeli (sp?) of Alternative Auto. he had a 1993 notchback that had a blown 393 stroker that would run 9.50's, outrun ferraris on a road track, and WAS DRIVEN from Michigan to Florida, with a working Air conditioner, PS, PB, Power door locks, etc.

I believe he sold the car for like $37K, but I would bet dollars to donuts, he had a heck of a lot more in it than he sold it for.

Hax

Clem Eastwood
10-17-2005, 11:12
i didnt say anything about pump gas, a/c or overdrive. it can be done, my buddy and i built his car for $33K and its run 8.90s@152 weighing 2800lbs making 730rwhp. but for 20k i could build a mid 11 sec car to run on pump gas with a/c. take a stock car, get into the engine and drop the compression with some differnt pistons, put a procharger d1 on it and make 12lbs of boost. with heads and a cam it might get into the 10s if its light. some people can live without od, a/c, big stereos. they are teh people that build there cars instead of buying them. ;)

Clem Eastwood
10-17-2005, 11:28
you might check out the hot rod pump gas drags. the fastest guys run 8s, but they have a lot of money into their motor. hell, pump gas is $3/gallon. i dont know why people cry about paying $6.50/gallon for a real fuel like c16. running a high octane fuel like that you can narrow the pulse on the injectors because the BSFC will be lower. it will get better gas mileage then pump gas.

or you could flood the motor with pump gas and hope it doesnt detonate, but sooner or later it will. i assure you.

Rob1035
10-17-2005, 12:20
Local executive daily drives his 550whp Supra *shrug*

Clem Eastwood
10-17-2005, 12:54
Originally posted by Rob1035
Local executive daily drives his 550whp Supra *shrug*

yeah, my mustang was my daily driver for 5 years. i just turned down the boost to run on pump gas. even detuned down it spun the drag radials thru 3rd gear on the street.

BigC3031
10-17-2005, 13:15
anyone on this board or any for that matter that says they run less than 12's should not be taken seriously at all until they post some proof(ie a timeslip), the same should be said for all that say they have greater than 400 horse at the rear wheels(ie a dyno sheet). Most people say they do this but can never prove it.

Talk it cheap, performance is not!

Clem Eastwood
10-17-2005, 13:55
Originally posted by BigC3031
anyone on this board or any for that matter that says they run less than 12's should not be taken seriously at all until they post some proof(ie a timeslip), the same should be said for all that say they have greater than 400 horse at the rear wheels(ie a dyno sheet). Most people say they do this but can never prove it.

Talk it cheap, performance is not!

i guess you dont go to the track much or live around DFW. theres a hell of a lot of 11 second cars here. it takes 9s just to turn heads. but whatever