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switch625
10-01-2005, 18:12
Inspected and loaded up some mags for the range with some XM193 Lot# 103 and found these. The dents look a little deeper than they actually are.

switch625
10-01-2005, 18:13
Why is it not letting me post pics?

USMCsilver
10-01-2005, 18:15
Dunno. Obviously, it works for me.

switch625
10-01-2005, 18:17
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid189/p3e45ccc8f18b3ade743337a0bb45c862/f20fe778.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid189/p991acd12c4f73297a7ce6ada7174198c/f20fe773.jpg

OutintheWoods
10-01-2005, 18:20
I wouldn't shoot 'em.

I don't need cheap ammo that bad, and I certainly need my rifle, as well as my physical integrity.

Most probably ok if they'll chamber though, dents closer to the base are more of a concern.

Better safe than sorry. Unless it's absolutely necessary.

USMCsilver
10-01-2005, 18:30
Obviously, those were FTF's. The lugs of the bolt dug right into them suckers!

FWIW, I usually stick 'em back in the mag. If they were near the bottem, I'd toss them as mentioned above.

switch625
10-01-2005, 18:43
Originally posted by USMCsilver
Obviously, those were FTF's. The lugs of the bolt dug right into them suckers!

FWIW, I usually stick 'em back in the mag. If they were near the bottem, I'd toss them as mentioned above. Nope, brand new out of the sealed box XM193.

USMCsilver
10-01-2005, 18:44
Originally posted by switch625
Nope, brand new out of the sealed box XM193.

Had to be re-loaded brass. I can't think of anything else that would cause such marring.

switch625
10-01-2005, 19:20
XM193 is new milspec ammo, not reloads.

OutintheWoods
10-01-2005, 19:31
Originally posted by switch625
Nope, brand new out of the sealed box XM193.

Were these loose pack? Or in small boxes?

Maybe rejects, or just roughly handled during shipment. It would have to be real rough to cause such damage. Like someone took a nail set and a hammer to them.

BTW, do you remember where you got them? So I don't make the same mistake.

switch625
10-01-2005, 19:34
They were sealed in the 20rd boxes, in a sealed case. I saw a thread on arfcom where somebody had the same thing. Folks were saying small dents are normal for XM193 and not an issue. Got the case from Widener's, listed in the arfcom price list.

switch625
10-01-2005, 19:35
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=244776

OutintheWoods
10-01-2005, 19:57
Your call.

Take the worst dent out and shoot it. If your fine with it, ok.

I shoot Q3131A exclusively. A bunch I got a while back. Never had anything resembling that picture.

feetpiece
10-01-2005, 20:45
Originally posted by USMCsilver
Dunno. Obviously, it works for me.

USMCsilver, what the hell is that?

http://tinypic.com/e7azxc.jpg

USMCsilver
10-01-2005, 20:47
Originally posted by feetpiece
USMCsilver, what the hell is that?

http://tinypic.com/e7azxc.jpg

I put my hamster on a meth diet. That's him tweakin' after about 3 weeks with no sleep nor food. ;f

AZ-Boog
10-01-2005, 20:50
Is that XM193 or XMPD193??

switch625
10-01-2005, 22:52
Originally posted by AZ-Boog
Is that XM193 or XMPD193?? It's real deal XM193. Boys at arfcom say it's normal, only issues may be cycling. Since it's range ammo I'm gonna shoot it and not worry about it.

RMTactical
10-02-2005, 00:23
Originally posted by switch625
It's real deal XM193. Boys at arfcom say it's normal, only issues may be cycling. Since it's range ammo I'm gonna shoot it and not worry about it.

+1

No big deal. XM193 is notorious for having dented cases, although the majority of them are less noticable.

I'd have no problem shooting it, and haven't.

If you really wanted to, I'd be willing to bet you can send it back and get some more in return if you really care that much...

from the Oracle (http://www.ammo-oracle.com/body.htm#xm193mil)

Q. What is with this goo and the dings on my Lake City Rounds?

Lake City doesn't bother to polish ammo after it's loaded. Occasionally you'll see dings or excess sealant on the casings of Lake City ammunition, particularly the Federal XM193 that Lake City has produced of late. Sometimes the ammo looks downright beat up. It's generally not anything to be concerned about and shouldn't impact performance. Still, most distributors will offer to take the ammo back if it's in that condition. Check to see if your vendor has a return or satisfaction guaranteed policy if you're really worried about pretty ammo. You can also send it to the AR15.com staff "Ugly Lake City Disposal Facility" and we will be happy to render each and every round safe.

Of course, you probably do not want to use ammo that is more severely damaged. Avoid ammo with significant deformities on or above the neck.

http://www.ammo-oracle.com/images/bent.jpg
AR15.com user Greenhorn found this round shipped in a new box.
The damage on the neck of the case probably makes this dangerous to fire.

http://www.ammo-oracle.com/images/XM1932.JPG
Some dinged up looking Lake City XM193.

Hailstorm
10-02-2005, 15:04
I have shot some like that in my younger immortal days. I wouldn't do it now tho. ;f

Riverweasel
10-03-2005, 12:33
I wouldn't take the chance personally.

You've got what, 4 dented rounds?
Thats only $.80 @ $.20/ea.

I would never knowingly use a dented round regardless if it would shoot OK or not, unless it was a life or death situation.

A $.20 round could cost you a $850+ rifle when you can just as easily dispose of them.

What's so important about firing damaged rounds anyways when you have 996 good ones ready to go?

But hey, like others have said, it will "probably" be OK!!
Good luck:)

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