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chrisct
10-06-2005, 10:18
I can't find in the rule book where it expressly prohibits extended slide stops, but it also doesn't expressly allow them. Anyone know for sure if they are allowed?

TIA.

murph2127
10-06-2005, 10:27
Extended Slide Stops are not in the inclusive list of permitted modifications, so they are illegal.

The title of your post says "mag release" though. They are legal, provided they are not oversize diameter and extend no more than 2/10".

Ted


PERMITTED Modifications (Inclusive list):
1. Sights to another notch and post type (see “sights” in glossary for further information).
2. Grips (no weighted grips; see “weighted grips” in glossary for further details).
3. Internal accuracy work (includes: replacement of the barrel with one of factory configuration, the use of Accu-Rails, the use of Briley Bushings).
4. Factory installed cone style barrels are permitted on pistols with a barrel length of 4.2” or less.
5. Internal reliability work.
6. Checker frontstrap and backstrap.
7. Checker or square and checker trigger guard.
8. Cosmetic checkering/serrating.
9. Extended thumb (may be ambidextrous) and Beavertail grip safeties.
10. Extended magazine release (button may not be oversize in diameter or protrude more than .2” out from the frame).
11. Full length guide rod manufactured of material that is no heavier than common steel.
12. Hammer and other trigger action parts to enhance trigger pull (includes over travel stop).
13. Beveled magazine well and add-on well extensions.
14. Custom finishes.

TimP
10-06-2005, 11:35
if it is a stock glock item its legal

9x45
10-10-2005, 17:11
It sounds like you are trying to shoot a Glock 21 in CDP, which would mean an extended mag release is ok, but not an extended slide stop(which is ok in SSP). The down side of a G21 in CDP is that you can only load 8 plus 1. The up side of a G21 in SSP is you can shoot a 230 grain bullet at 545 fps and still make the power floor of 125...

chrisct
10-10-2005, 18:46
Actually, for SSP I have a G34, I was wondering about shooting a 1911 in CDP. Sounds like an extended slide stop is illegal for 1911s in CDP...oh well, I'll just have to practice dropping the slide with my weak hand.

Thanks for the replies.

Glock2234
10-10-2005, 21:24
Originally posted by chrisct
Sounds like an extended slide stop is illegal for 1911s in CDP.

The problem with the question lies in the name of the division, "Custom."

I understand the list of permitted modifications. What I don't understand is how using x frame, with y slide, and z whatever, limits parts to a modification list. SSP, I understand (sort of). ESP and CDP, if it fits in the box and is not prohibited, it must be legal.

How do you define an "extended slide release?" I have a really big one on my gun, but it was there when I bought it. I have no idea if this is the original, or if it was replaced by a prior owner. Is the problem "extended in length," or "extended in width?" And now why would either be illegal? It is more functional. It is no less concealable. Equipment race? Really? There is no bigger equipment race than sights, trigger jobs, and especially, loading your own ammo. Try shooting your carry .40 cal. with factory ammo against home made 9mm.

When IDPA eliminated the legal gun and holster lists, they pretty much opened the front and back door to custom guns in ESP and CDP.

I bought mine partially assembled, and finished the rest.

I have actually had an SOI tell me that my mag release on a Glock 34 wasn't legal. Tell Gaston he has a problem. Don't tell me.

The IDPA catch-all rule is just silly.

"Anything we didn't think of to outlaw is against the rules unless we bless it and the major manufacturers (including Bill Wilson) built it."

I'm looking for the next rule change to require the "Glock IDPA Model" for all competition. Factory sealed for purity of the sport.


Free Taran Butler!

9x45
10-10-2005, 21:49
You guys are trying to make sense out of the rules! Don't do that, just understand what the rules are... If you study the USPSA and IDPA rules, you will soon conclude that each and every IDPA rule is the opposite of each and every USPSA rule, thats all, nothing more. It's not Tactical, or practical , or actual, for factual. It's just IDPA.

Free Taran?? Are you nuts!!@ Wait until you squad with him....

'Trust me, I know what I'm doing'

Sledge Hammer

Glock2234
10-10-2005, 23:02
Originally posted by 9x45
Free Taran?? Are you nuts!!@ Wait until you squad with him....


Everybody deserves to get disqualified while they are still at the match, same county, same state, same time zone, same something.

Ok, it was the same month.

MarkP
10-11-2005, 02:12
Originally posted by chrisct
I can't find in the rule book where it expressly prohibits extended slide stops, but it also doesn't expressly allow them. Anyone know for sure if they are allowed?

TIA.

If IDPA wanted to restrict the use of extended slide stops* on CDP guns , they would have written that into the rules or under
"Non-IDPA-Legal modifications for ALL Divisions" (p18.)

Go ahead and use it - although I do not see the installation of that part as necessary , it is your gun..

"How do you define an "extended slide release?" I have a really big one on my gun, but it was there when I bought it. I have no idea if this is the original, or if it was replaced by a prior owner. Is the problem "extended in length," or "extended in width?"


*Extended Slide Release:A slide stop/release that is wider or longer than industry standard for the model.(p77)

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