EOtech or AIMPOINT

[GregG17]

What is the difference in these to sites,,,also if you could have one whitch would you pick?

[thejrod]

The Aimpoint has a singular red dot, 2moa or 4moa in size. The EOTech has a 1moa red dot surrounded by a 65moa ring. I find the EOTech much easier to acquire targets quickly, and still have that 1moa dot for precision shooting. I have an EOTech.

I'd suggest going to a gun shop that has both mounted and look through them both to see for yourself.

[GregG17]

So are they almost the same thing or is the Aimpoint more like a scope???

[Tito]

http://www.eotech-inc.com/images/520tac.gif

http://www.safarasoftair.com/images/pro%20point%20aimpoint%20type%20guarder.jpg

Neither is magnified absent add-ons. The aimpoint is more of tube, whereas the eotech is more of a window.

By the way, you pretty much suck at the internet.;f

[Dobber]

It's like a ford or chevy thing. You will have to check them both out and see which one you like better. After giving both a try I went with EOTech. Although, I can't rule out an Aimpoint for my next build.

[GregG17]

????? suck at the internet??? ;I

[GregG17]

Tito I know what they look like thanks anyway what I should have asked is if the aimpoint is magnified, but now I know thx.;f BTW leave your dumbass remarks to your self tito.;c

[Eric911]

Originally posted by GregG17
????? suck at the internet??? ;I Perhaps he just meant that by doing a search you could have found some pertinent info on these two units. I dunno…
google.com

I’m surprised nobody has chimed in with the standard answer…buy one of each!

It is a Ford Vs Chevy type debate. IMHO you can’t go wrong with either. Do a bit of research and if possible, look at one of each in person. Also decide if you need night vision capacity. Most folks don’t and t non-NV units are a bit less expensive. If it comes down to price, the EOTech will be a better choice if you’re going for a flattop mount. The EOTech line has a built in mount, where the Aimpoint mount is extra.

[thejrod]

Originally posted by GregG17
Tito I know what they look like thanks anyway what I should have asked is if the aimpoint is magnified, but now I know thx.;f BTW leave your dumbass remarks to your self tito.;c

They're essentially the exact same thing - a red dot type, non-magnified sight. The only functional difference is the shape/size of the 'red dots'.

[Mild Bill]

Is a non magnified sight also good for distance shooting?
Certainly we think of rifles when we think of distance...

In other words, does one ever need a magnified sight too?

;c

[switch625]

Originally posted by thejrod
The EOTech has a 1moa red dot surrounded by a 65moa ring. I find the EOTech much easier to acquire targets quickly, and still have that 1moa dot for precision shooting. This is also why I have an Eotech.

[RMTactical]

I had first tried the Eotech, and it was a good sight. I liked it.

But then I tried an Aimpoint, and I loved it.

I would rather have an Aimpoint.

[RMTactical]

Originally posted by Mild Bill
Is a non magnified sight also good for distance shooting?
Certainly we think of rifles when we think of distance...

In other words, does one ever need a magnified sight too?

;c

That's why I like the ACOG more than the Aimpoint and the Eotech.

For close range, indoors, nothing beats an Aimpoint.

For outdoors, I prefer an ACOG, which has assisted in the death of a few coyotes. Since, I don't have an Aimpoint, I can just switch to iron sights indoors.

I'd rather have an ACOG than anything else.

[G37 Commando]

Try here http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=546&hl= if you want answers without the sarcasm. We had a guy start a similar thread today. Maybe you will find your answers. Feel free to ask if you don't.

I hope this helps you out.

Jay

[OutintheWoods]

I find the Eotech has a slight learning curve compared to red dots.

It just gets better with use and experience.

It also has no muzzle side signature, and anti reflective coatings that require no devices such as a killflash, etc...

http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=5026331#post5026331

Alot of it is personal preference I suppose. They are both very good sights.

[Seabee71]

The thing I like about my EOTech is that if part of the window is cracked or blocked, the reticle moves to a clear spot in the window without changing zero. Dont know if Aimpoints do that. I also like the smaller overall signature of the EOTech. I have buddies that had aimpoints and moved up to ACOG's, I still cant afford them damn things. Go with an EOTech, if you want some magnification, you can stick an aimpoint 3x with the EOTech.

[G37 Commando]

Originally posted by Seabee71
The thing I like about my EOTech is that if part of the window is cracked or blocked, the reticle moves to a clear spot in the window without changing zero. Dont know if Aimpoints do that. I also like the smaller overall signature of the EOTech. I have buddies that had aimpoints and moved up to ACOG's, I still cant afford them damn things. Go with an EOTech, if you want some magnification, you can stick an aimpoint 3x with the EOTech.

Gotta pic of the Aimpoint 3X with an Eotech, and what mount are they using to get the Aimpoint unit to line up properly.

Jay

[Seabee71]

Originally posted by G37 Commando
Gotta pic of the Aimpoint 3X with an Eotech, and what mount are they using to get the Aimpoint unit to line up properly.

Jay

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=241933

There ya go. This guy is selling the 3x and the mount for $650, sheesh!

[G37 Commando]

Thanks for the link.

As for the price, I can get better prices through people I know.

Jay

[Seabee71]

Originally posted by G37 Commando
Thanks for the link.

As for the price, I can get better prices through people I know.

Jay

Damn, hook a brother up!!!

[Short Cut]

They're both of high quality, but the Aimpoint gives me that looking through a tube sensation more like a traditional rifle scope whereas with the EOTech it's almost as if the housing isn't there at all just a red dot with a ring around it floating in front of your face.

Other things I like with the EO is the 1 MOA dot for more precision shooting and the outer ring makes target acquistion very quick.

http://home.comcast.net/~1911brass/M1A_Scout_Squad.jpg

[Bushw@cker]

Originally posted by thejrod
The Aimpoint has a singular red dot, 2moa or 4moa in size. The EOTech has a 1moa red dot surrounded by a 65moa ring. I find the EOTech much easier to acquire targets quickly, and still have that 1moa dot for precision shooting. I have an EOTech.

I'd suggest going to a gun shop that has both mounted and look through them both to see for yourself.

+1

[glock19_fan]

Originally posted by Seabee71
The thing I like about my EOTech is that if part of the window is cracked or blocked, the reticle moves to a clear spot in the window without changing zero. .. Can you explain this in more detail? I'm not sure how the EOTech does that. Thanks.

[Dennis in MA]

Assume the rifle is mounted in a vice pointed directly at a target 50 yards away. (So it doesn't move off target when you move.) When you place your head on the stock, the reticle is right on target. Move your head slightly - and the reticle stays on target. It moves in the window, but stays on target the whole time. So if there's a bullet hole in one corner, you have the rest of the lens to work with. Ditto for dirt, snow, or other obstructions.

[Delta-9]

The reticle itself doesn't move, it only "moves" when you move your head around. You don't have to have your head in that "sweet spot" like you do with an optical scope. You can have your head 2" off of the stock and still look through the reticle and see the POI.

If there is mud or snow on the reticle you would have to modify your shooting position such that you got the POI to move away from the area that is blocked. For instance in the images below, you would have to slightly adjust your head or the rifle to bring the red dot into an area of the window where you could see the POI demarkation.

<img src="http://www.eotech-inc.com/images/obstruct.gif">

[dbrowne1]

Pick up a copy of the most recent SWAT magazine. Pat Rogers did an article on carbine optics that covers both those sights.

I went with Aimpoint because it has a longer and better track record as far as reliability, and because I don't foresee needing longer range pinpoint accuracy with a 1moa dot like the EOTech has.

[Ljunatic]

Another Plus for the EOTech is no mount is required ,although optional mounts are available for those who do not like a co-witness with the irons

[OutintheWoods]

These are both very good high quality units.

I would feel well equipped with either. Although I own the Eotech AA.

Beyond that it's just personal preference. They both have strong points and weak points.

And neither can compare with the ACOG in terms of brutal durability, no electronics/batteries, or pinpoint precision accuracy beyond 100 yards or so. But then the ACOG is inferior at close range.

Pick the one that fits your needs and go with it.

And learn how to properly clean your lenses. Nothing worse than shelling out big bucks for fine optics then damaging them for no apparent reason.

Hint;

Cotton balls, cu tips, and lens cleaner.

No dirty t-shirts, papertowels, tap water, etc....

[GregG17]

Thanks for the tips Outinthewoods..;c ;f

[OutintheWoods]

Appreciate that Greg.

I appreciate your contributions as well. Great place to learn alot.

I only wish we'd had such resources like this (the internet, etc..) when I was in school.

I could have been a rocket scientist. `l

[GregG17]

Me too. Well I'm only 25 we did but never got to use them...

[NC22_Glockster]

EOTech
AimPoint
Acog

anyone else have an ATN?

For the money I think they are just great.
I have no plans on going into battle, but it is nice for shooting a string of clays and impressing myself and anyone around me.

PLUS the ATN is only 170 bux!
and it does most of what the high $ ones do.
Just my .02 cents worth

[crazymoose]

Originally posted by OutintheWoods
And neither can compare with the ACOG in terms of brutal durability, no electronics/batteries, or pinpoint precision accuracy beyond 100 yards or so. But then the ACOG is inferior at close range.

I'm with you except on the durability part. You ever held an Aimpoint? Damn things feel bulletproof... made of very tough and thick aluminum, probably stronger than the AR receiver it sits on.

[OutintheWoods]

Originally posted by crazymoose
I'm with you except on the durability part. You ever held an Aimpoint? Damn things feel bulletproof... made of very tough and thick aluminum, probably stronger than the AR receiver it sits on.

Yeah, I'm sure the case is very tough.

It's still an electronic sight.

You know EMP (electro magnetic pulse), from say a nuclear weapon.

Of course Trijicon sights which use tritium only are not subject to such phenomenon. As well both the Aimpoint and the Trijicon sights emit a muzzle side signature. Although at least one can turn the Aimpoint off.

So that's a plus for the Eotech and one of the main reasons I chose one.

Nothing like a rather large bright glowing area downrange to those with NV capability to draw unwanted attention to your position.

6 of 1, half dozen of the other.

I suppose in that regard the perfect solution for every situation has yet to be created. No matter how much each of us wants to believe our choice was best.

My choice is best.... my choice is best..... nanynany boo boo. ;n