New 10mm loading at DoubleTap!

[MCNETT]

10mm 180gr XTP!

This loading provides a hunter with a controlled expansion bullet at serious speeds!

Caliber : 10mm

Bullet : 180gr. XTP-JHP

Ballistics : 180gr. @ 1350fps/ 728 ft/lbs- Glock 20

Box of 50rds.

Final ballistic gel was conducted and it performed as follows:
180gr XTP @ 1350fps – 17.25” / .77”
-Mike

[spcwes]

Man, I got to get a Glock 20. Great numbers Mike.

[ColoradoGlocker]

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[nickE10mm]

Excellent! I've been waiting for a 180gr XTP loading. Thanks Mike!!

[10mm4ever]

The same excellence we've all come to expect from DoubleTap..;)

[turbonatr]

Price for a 50 round box, Mike? Also, what is the retained weight? Are the results shown for bare or clothed gelatin?

Thanks!

BTW, the XTP is a delayed expansion JHP, not a controlled expansion JHP. Yeah, I know. I'm a stickler for details.;f

[Masque]

I'm not Mike, but I'm also not as busy, so I'll answer as best I can.

Originally posted by turbonatr
Price for a 50 round box, Mike?$24.50, listed at http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=122Also, what is the retained weight?That... I can't answer. Well, not with facts. Did you want facts? I don't have those for this question.Are the results shown for bare or clothed gelatin?From McNett's post at http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=336612 :
All of these tests were done using 10% ballistic gelatin provided by Vyse gelatin using all FBI protocols and 4 layers of denim and two layers of light cotton T-shirt in front of the gelatin.

As that the gelatin test result for the new round is listed there, I assume the above remains accurate. This is especially important if you're hunting clothed hogs with this round, but it probably applies to unclothed furry ones as well.

Mike, I think my wallet's starting to dislike you.

[MCNETT]

Clothed hogs? You've just made me spray my keyboard with coffee! ;c

Yes, they are all using the FBI standard test with 4 layers of denim and two of light cotton over a calibrated 10% block of ordinance gel. The retained weight was 176gr. Almost perfect!
-Mike

[G33]

Hi Mike!!;f

[agtman]

That's great news, Mike! :)

Let's see ...

* 180gn 10mm XTP @ 1350fps/728fpe;

* 17.25" penetration/.77" expansion;

* 176gns retained weight;

* followed standard FBI penetration testing;

* used calibrated ballistic gel;

Not much there for the 10mm-haters to complain about. ;Q

Looks like a great addition to Double Tap's already exceptional 10mm line-up. Thanks, Mike! ;c

:cool:

[G33]

BTW, XTPs have been outstanding in my .41 mag. loads.
;f ;f

[G-Bone]

Thanks for another wonderful 10mm loading Mike!!

;f ;a ;f

[10mm4ever]

Yep,who can ignore the "voice" of the 10mm,with Mike around?

[J.D. Locke]

DT ammo=more gooder;f

[Ron3]

Sounds like a great load!

[Viesczy]

IMO the XTP is a great design. Seems to always expand, when driven within the particular expansion velocity range regardless of media, and is typically accurate.

Looking @ Mike's #s, to me it is clear that the top three choices are the 200gr XTP, the 180gr XTP and the 180gr Gold Saber. All expand to .70 or greater and penetrate at least 16" of gelatin. Nothing like expansion and penetration to reach all the way into a target.

Derek

[PaleGreenHorse]

Sweet load Mike, my wallet is having trouble keeping up though....first the new Sig loads and now this, Im gonna be broke for Christmas ;)

[Hando]

;!
is the 200gr XTP too much to use for SD?
and also, which one of the DT 10mm line would recoil the least? i know felt recoil is subjective...

[spcwes]

Some people can just handle the recoil better than others. The 200gr may be too much by some folk’s standards (Most) but I do not believe in over kill when trying to stay alive. That term may be kind of subjective as well. I would say the lightest recoiling load will likely be the 135gr load and would make an excellent defensive load. Good luck.

[MCNETT]

I find that the 230gr Equalizer is the softest recoiling load. The 200gr XTP would be a great SD load where overpenetration is not a concern.
-Mike

[G33]

The Equalizer is great in my G29 and M646.
The xtps are great on tough stuff like Pins.
:)

[Hando]

Originally posted by spcwes
I would say the lightest recoiling load will likely be the 135gr load and would make an excellent defensive load. Good luck.

for some reason i was told that the heavier bullet will recoil less. that's why i was considering 200XTP for carry.

[spcwes]

I guess in some cases this may be true. Generally from my understanding a heavy slow bullet has less recoil than a fast heavy bullet but when you run the speed of a heavy bullet up to what lighter bullets are supposed to run look out.

I think it would be a great idea for you to get a few boxes and try them out. I may be off my rocker. I would say this, in most cases a lighter bullet should have less recoil because a lesser powder charge and less pressure should allow the bullet to get to the speed desired. Less pressure in most cases should equal less recoil.

I think that is how it goes. If that is how it is and you take a bullet designed to run by factory specs around 1250fps or a little faster and push it at over 1400fps the recoil is likely going to get stiffer.

[ppro]

Wes

You might think of it as heavier bullet, more lift on the front end, slightly slower recovery time. Lighter bullet,less lift on the front end, and slightly faster recovery time (but snappier recoil).

So, depending on your preception, you may notice the snappier recoil of the lighter bullet more or the slower but greater front end lift of the heavier bullet load.....just depends on what your more comfortable with in your minds eye (so to speak).

Neither are at all brutal in the Model 20, if the gun fits your hand well enough. If it doesn't fit your hand quite so well, then you may notice that the type of recoil one of the particular type of loads mentioned offers..... seems to suit you better...

Paul

[JMag]

Originally posted by MCNETT
Clothed hogs? You've just made me spray my keyboard with coffee! ;c

(chop)
-Mike

I see clothed hogs daily around these parts...;P

[spcwes]

I got you Paul, thanks for the info.