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epsylum
10-25-2005, 18:55
Whoo hoo. A new first. My first new car (well, okay it's used with a whopping 4200 miles on it). I picked it out, did the whole shebang and get the pleasure of those little bills that will soon be showing up.

It's a 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS. It shares the same 2ZZGE powerplant and 6 speed manual tranny with the Celica GTS. It's a 1.8 liter 4 banger with all the electronic doo-dads (VVT-I and such) that makes it scream to 8200 rpms. It also comes with upgraded suspension incuding thicker swaybars and a strut tower bar. 16" wheels with Michelin Pilot tires and 4 wheel disc brakes with ABS (standard Corollas have rear drums). From what I read, I have nothing to fear from Civic Si's, Sentra SE-R's, or SVT Focus's.

The best part is (the one reason why I picked it over anything else in it's class) that is a complete package. It's sporty, roomy (more on that later), comfortable, economical, and just a plain ole good value.

I am 6'3" and 280 lbs. It's hard to find a compact car that fits me. I had an 86 300ZX, a 92 Ford Escort, and a 95 Mercury Cougar before this. All of them had to have the driver seats all the way back for me to fit and be comfortable. If it had a back seat, the one behind me was made useless. Not any more. I tested it out today. I left the driver seat in my driving position. I then got in the backseat behind it. I fit. Not just barely fit, but I actually had some room. Toyota must have figured out what the trick was to those Circus clown cars, becasue it's amazing that 2 6"3" people could sit in a row in such a small car.

I have only had it for 2 days, but so far, I love it. It does everything I want it to do, except roast the BACK tires. But, hey it's a sacrifice I (and my checkbook) am willing to make.

Best of all. It's a Toyota. ;f

Now I have Pics. Please ignore the ugly house and VW GTI in the background. Both are under construction. :)

http://www.photodump.com/direct/epsylum/IMG_1430a.jpg

http://www.photodump.com/direct/epsylum/IMG_1427a.jpg


Now I need a decent car stereo. Man this can get expensive. ;)

Rob1035
10-25-2005, 19:08
hot powerplants in small sedans=the best

bac1023
10-25-2005, 20:34
Congrats!

G27dogmannfl
10-28-2005, 17:49
congrats toyotas are great cars! my dad had a corolla that had 180K on the original clutch. a mechanic test drove that car when we sold it and asked if he had just put in a new clutch. lol great cars and that is one of the best looking corollas i have ever seen. ;c

knightkrawler00
10-28-2005, 18:36
I haven't paid too much attention to the Corolla in the last few years. Looks like I've been missing out, it's a really good looking car. I just sold my '99 Civic Si today, and if it's true that you have nothing to fear from an Si, you have a sweet little rice rocket on your hands. Congratulations.

epsylum
10-28-2005, 19:26
Originally posted by knightkrawler00
I haven't paid too much attention to the Corolla in the last few years. Looks like I've been missing out, it's a really good looking car. I just sold my '99 Civic Si today, and if it's true that you have nothing to fear from an Si, you have a sweet little rice rocket on your hands. Congratulations.

Thanks

it makes 170hp (at 8200 rpms) and 127 lb/ft (at 4200) and weighs 2600 lbs *mfg claims* with a 6 speed and is electronically limited to 130mph. Car and Driver got it to do a 0-60 run in 7.1 seconds and there are guys at www.toyotanation.com running low 15s in the quarter with only a few little mods (A guy my dad works with owns an RSX Type-S and runs the same times).

The high lift cam comes in a 6000 rpms (a bit high, but still fun) and it starts pulling like a low boost turbo just kicked in. It feels like a rock solid car. The steering feel is great and just begs to be thrown into corners. I had an 86 300zx non-turbo. This would smoke it in almost every way, plus this has room for 4 adults.

I was looking at VW GTI 1.8T's, but as soon as I test drove this, I HAD to have it. It was just plain fun to drive, even in boring traffic.

grecco
10-28-2005, 19:34
hey e,
congrats,
its a great car,lots of luck.

Rob1035
10-28-2005, 20:12
that's a great lesson i've learned. You don't necessarily need 650hp to have a good time, especially on the street. I have so much fun in my 100hp bimmer, because I drive the snot out of it, and not risking felony speeding violations.

the modern variable timing systems (VVT-i, VTEC, etc) also make for great street motors. Keep it on the low cam for daily commuting, and you have a quiet, great MPG ride. But if you're feeling like it, spin it up and have a blast.

coreseller
10-29-2005, 06:24
One of the great bummers about finally being able to and purchasing that high horsepower new musclecar you've been dreaming of: Where the hell do you use it? My boss told me a few years ago after getting his BMW 540i 6 speed that it was a great car and all but it was more fun to twist the snot out of the 4 cylinder Saab 5 speed he had before it. I'm now kind of in the same boat, just got out of a Maxima SE stick and into a new GTO 6 speed, the torque and power is great and all but you're truly going stupid fast in just third gear. I actually had more fun using most of the Maxima's potential. A buddy of mine recently got a Toyota Matrix, I don't know how closely related to the Corolla it is in size but I was amazed at the interior space it had, he's about your size and it was one of the few cars that would easily fit him, it's only a 5 speed though vs. your 6 but it runs great.

walangkatapat
10-29-2005, 09:41
Very clean looking.

epsylum
10-30-2005, 09:10
Originally posted by coreseller
One of the great bummers about finally being able to and purchasing that high horsepower new musclecar you've been dreaming of: Where the hell do you use it? My boss told me a few years ago after getting his BMW 540i 6 speed that it was a great car and all but it was more fun to twist the snot out of the 4 cylinder Saab 5 speed he had before it. I'm now kind of in the same boat, just got out of a Maxima SE stick and into a new GTO 6 speed, the torque and power is great and all but you're truly going stupid fast in just third gear. I actually had more fun using most of the Maxima's potential. A buddy of mine recently got a Toyota Matrix, I don't know how closely related to the Corolla it is in size but I was amazed at the interior space it had, he's about your size and it was one of the few cars that would easily fit him, it's only a 5 speed though vs. your 6 but it runs great.

He has the Matrix XR then. That has the base Corolla engine (1ZZGE, 140hp, 5 speed, killer gas milage). The Matrix XRS, Corolla XRS, Celica GTS, Pontiac Vibe GT, and even the Lotus Elise all share the the same engine and tranny (2ZZGE, 170-180hp,6 speed, not quite as good gas milage).

The Matrix is sort of a close, but not quite brother of the Corolla. Other countries get the Corolla hatchbacks, like the WRC corollas of yore, we get the Matrix (IMO the Corolla hatch looks better).

BTW anyone wanting a good gas milage car, The regualar Corolla is the most fuel efficent gasoline only powered car sold in the US today at 36mpg city and 40mpg highway (only hybrids and VW TDIs are better). But as my dealer told me, they are sold out of new ones accross the country. He said in Cali, they are selling them for 1k over sticker. Sounds like 70's with the VW Rabbit diesel.

Victory
10-30-2005, 21:26
Originally posted by epsylum
Thanks

it makes 170hp (at 8200 rpms) and 127 lb/ft (at 4200) and weighs 2600 lbs *mfg claims* with a 6 speed and is electronically limited to 130mph. Car and Driver got it to do a 0-60 run in 7.1 seconds and there are guys at www.toyotanation.com running low 15s in the quarter with only a few little mods (A guy my dad works with owns an RSX Type-S and runs the same times).

The high lift cam comes in a 6000 rpms (a bit high, but still fun) and it starts pulling like a low boost turbo just kicked in. It feels like a rock solid car. The steering feel is great and just begs to be thrown into corners. I had an 86 300zx non-turbo. This would smoke it in almost every way, plus this has room for 4 adults.

I was looking at VW GTI 1.8T's, but as soon as I test drove this, I HAD to have it. It was just plain fun to drive, even in boring traffic.

And if you ever get tired of having to wait for 6000rpm to have your fun, toyota racing development makes a bolt on supercharger kit for all of $3K

epsylum
10-31-2005, 05:02
Originally posted by Victory
And if you ever get tired of having to wait for 6000rpm to have your fun, toyota racing development makes a bolt on supercharger kit for all of $3K

Yup, but I will probably just buy a GReddy E-Manage Ultimate and just make the cam kick in at a lower RPM, like somewhere around 5k.

The blower is cool, but it will ruin my mpg (it is my daily dirver afterall). The high lift cam only kicks in when you mean it to. I won't have as much of a performance gain for sure, but it's more affordable and will probably be more reliable. I know the TRD stuff are covered by warranty, but they only care about the 100k miles (in my case) that it is covered by them. After that, all bets are off. Boosting a car that already has 11:1 compression, isn't the best idea for reliability.

G27dogmannfl
10-31-2005, 10:14
if the blower does interest you then you should check out some forums online. I know the tocoma's are still about bullet proof when they have the trd blower on them. i dont know for sure about the corrola but a toyota with a blower is still probably more reliable and will last longer than most other cars on the road. either way you are still going to be happy and i dont think a blower really lowers your MPG's? could be wrong though unless the kit comes with new injectors

Rob1035
10-31-2005, 11:14
there's no free lunch, to make more power, you need more air and fuel. A supercharger adds more air, the ECU and bigger injectors add more fuel.

I'm sure the TRD stuff is quality, and low boost for reliability. But piggybacking on what EP said, there's a huge difference between SC'ing a larger, lower compression V6 in the Tacoma versus a high strung, high compression i4. High Compression+forced induction requires (imho) quality ECU programming on a dyno.

Victory
10-31-2005, 13:42
I don't think anyone knows how to properly tune for that better than TRD.

Rob1035
10-31-2005, 14:26
I would never doubt that, but the fact of the matter is adding forced induction to a high comp motor will require tuning beyond plug-n-play stuff to get it running anywhere near as well as the stock motor. I've seen it time and again in the honda world, dyno tuning is the difference between 150whp that pings and 225whp that runs like stock, even with "plug and play" ECU add-ons. I'm not questioning anyone's knowledge, just stating what i've seen hanging around my buddy's dyno shop (p1auto.com)

But anyways, about EPs cool new car:cool:

epsylum
10-31-2005, 15:16
This place specializes in modifying an engine for TRD parts (especially the blowers).

For those who care.

http://www.urdusa.com/

OUSooner
10-31-2005, 16:19
I looked at the Matrix before I bought this. It had the same engine as yours. Don't know where you live but I'd love to race ya.;)

epsylum
10-31-2005, 16:31
Originally posted by OUSooner
I looked at the Matrix before I bought this. It had the same engine as yours. Don't know where you live but I'd love to race ya.;)

Indianapolis. :(

My Mom is from Tulsa. My uncle still lives there.

chris93473
11-02-2005, 00:37
I just picked up my xrs last december and i love this car.

chris93473
11-02-2005, 00:41
Originally posted by Rob1035
there's no free lunch, to make more power, you need more air and fuel. A supercharger adds more air, the ECU and bigger injectors add more fuel.

I'm sure the TRD stuff is quality, and low boost for reliability. But piggybacking on what EP said, there's a huge difference between SC'ing a larger, lower compression V6 in the Tacoma versus a high strung, high compression i4. High Compression+forced induction requires (imho) quality ECU programming on a dyno.

very true with also the possibility of replacing some of the components of the engine.

http://monkeywrenchracing.com/toyota_engine_packages.html