Old rifles

[vega]

Hey guys, I need enlightenment here. I don't have time to do search now so I'll ask away. I saw in another forum that one doesn't need FFL if he's buying more than 50 yr old rifle. Any law on that? I bought my M44 (1944) and M38 (1941) last year but I was DROSed. The seller said that he gets the money and he hands over the rifle, that easy no waiting time. This guy is in California too.

vega

[kf4zra]

not sure about PRK rules, but in free america, to buy a gun (handgun or long gun) from another person, you pretty much need 2 things.

first you need a guy wanting to sell a gun (18+)

second you need a guy wanting to buy a gun, that has money. (18+)

the first guy hands the second guy the gun, the second guy hands the first guy the money, he usually says thanks, and have a nice day too.


thats the legal minimum. however i would strongly recommend a bill of sale, verifying an ID, and questioning the person as to their intended use. none of those is required, but you need to CYA, just in case.

if you are buying from a dealer, there are a ton more steps involved.

again, this is an example from the free state of FL, PRK rules may be different.

[Bushbacker]

I believe it is 100 years, definitely not 50. Scroll down and see the Mauser 71/84:

http://www.southernohiogun.com/

[bchois226]

Originally posted by kf4zra
not sure about PRK rules, but in free america, to buy a gun (handgun or long gun) from another person, you pretty much need 2 things.

first you need a guy wanting to sell a gun (18+)

second you need a guy wanting to buy a gun, that has money. (18+)

the first guy hands the second guy the gun, the second guy hands the first guy the money, he usually says thanks, and have a nice day too.


thats the legal minimum. however i would strongly recommend a bill of sale, verifying an ID, and questioning the person as to their intended use. none of those is required, but you need to CYA, just in case.

if you are buying from a dealer, there are a ton more steps involved.

again, this is an example from the free state of FL, PRK rules may be different.

That is not entirely true. Transfers between private parties have to involve two parties from the same state. Any interstate transfers are supposed to go through an FFL.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b1

[kf4zra]

i know about the interstate thing, but he said the guy he was buying from was in Kalifornia too.

the rules involving firearms are way too confusing. the criminals dont care about gun laws, they dont apply to them. its almost like the rules were written to make more criminals out of those that think they are following the rules. its easy to misinterpret the law.

there are too many exceptions, ifs ands and buts, that make the law very confusing. way too many differences to have let me make a blanket statement that covers every possible aspect of every transaction. then to confuse it more, there are state and municipal rules on top of the fed rules. and to make it even more fun, the police and prosecutors dont know all the rules either.

it seems that the ATF agents that do my buddy's shop's inspections learn more from us than the ATF teaches em about gun laws.

[bchois226]

My reply was a case of my not reading closely enough. I missed the part where they were both from California.

The myriad of firearm laws is certainly confusing and almost impossible for me to keep track of.