Hk Mp5/10

[Pipes]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/dspipes/DSC00178.jpg

Just trying to post a photo - thanks!

[wsteineker]

Wow. Dude, that is so sweet! I'd give my right arm for an MP5K or MP5K-PDW, but I'd totally settle for a collapsible stock MP5. Actually, where would I get one of those things?

[Pipes]

Originally posted by wsteineker
Wow. Dude, that is so sweet! I'd give my right arm for an MP5K or MP5K-PDW, but I'd totally settle for a collapsible stock MP5. Actually, where would I get one of those things?

Well, I got mine from the Federal government. It's just a loaner - but it was probably paid for with your tax dollars ;)

Here's another one but with the Eotech attached:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/dspipes/DSC00213.jpg

[wsteineker]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pipes
Well, I got mine from the Federal government. It's just a loaner - but it was probably paid for with your tax dollars ;)

Lucky b*stard. Enjoy it for me, as I sincerely doubt I'll ever get my hands on one of thos beauties.

[jekbrown]

simply awesome. IMO the Mp5 is one of the great guns of all time. Wish I could afford the mad $$$$$$ it takes to get one...

j

[MarcDW]

I would not know what to do with your right arm, but ;) :

http://www.mdwguns.com/MP5KBeta.jpg

[wsteineker]

WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? That thing is A M A Z I N G ! ! ! I couldn't imagine the sheer joy that thing would bring me at the range. :)

[MarcDW]

Yes, it's pretty sweet and the 100 rounds seem to hold up forever!
I do like this one better:

http://www.mdwguns.com/G36C.jpg

@Pipes: Is this MP5/10 a semi and 3 round burst??

[Pipes]

Its a 2 round burst and semi. It also has the bolt hold open device. You can see that in the first picture directly above the 2 bullet burst graphic.

[MarcDW]

I did not know that there was a two round burst.
You learn every day. :)

[Glockdude1]

Originally posted by Pipes
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/dspipes/DSC00178.jpg

Just trying to post a photo - thanks!

If that was a "transferable" weapon it would sell for a cool 15 grand.

;N

[MarcDW]

Well, I would not count the 2 round bust that high.
Vector makes a SBR in .223, 9 mm, .40 and best of all .357SIG!

[TED]

I actually REALLY like the idea of the 2rd burst mechansim. In my training, with guns that had both 3rd burst and full auto settings we were always taught not to use the 3rd burst setting in preference of the full auto setting but with fire discipline and trigger control to just get out a 2rd burst. We were also always taught to press the trigger twice per set (for a total of four rounds per "serving").

The idea was that often times the third round and beyond of a burst veers off from point of aim too far and even walks off the target. So it was better to have two that hit or four that hit rather than two that did and one that didn't. There are other benfits too, like ammo conservation, not to mention that if you miss with that 3rd round of a 3 round burst you are still responsible for whatever it hits or wherever it goes.

In my opinion the 2rd burst neatly solves all of this. It would have been nice if tehy had come out with the 2rd burst instead of the 3rd burst in the first place.

I had not actually seen a weapon before that had the 2rd burst capability but no auto capability. Very interesting. Thanks for the great photos Pipes.

TED

[Wicked96SS]

Originally posted by MarcDW
Well, I would not count the 2 round bust that high.
Vector makes a SBR in .223, 9 mm, .40 and best of all .357SIG!

You made a typo... should be: Vecotr makes a SBR in .223, 9mm, .40, .357sig and best of all 10mm! :)

[Pipes]

Originally posted by TED
I actually REALLY like the idea of the 2rd burst mechansim. In my training, with guns that had both 3rd burst and full auto settings we were always taught not to use the 3rd burst setting in preference of the full auto setting but with fire discipline and trigger control to just get out a 2rd burst. We were also always taught to press the trigger twice per set (for a total of four rounds per "serving").

The idea was that often times the third round and beyond of a burst veers off from point of aim too far and even walks off the target. So it was better to have two that hit or four that hit rather than two that did and one that didn't. There are other benfits too, like ammo conservation, not to mention that if you miss with that 3rd round of a 3 round burst you are still responsible for whatever it hits or wherever it goes.

In my opinion the 2rd burst neatly solves all of this. It would have been nice if tehy had come out with the 2rd burst instead of the 3rd burst in the first place.

I had not actually seen a weapon before that had the 2rd burst capability but no auto capability. Very interesting. Thanks for the great photos Pipes.

TED

I found that you needed a lot of practice to hold three or more rounds on the target. The 2 round burst solves that. It is a nice feature.

Also, this is not a Vector, it is a purebred HK.

[MarcDW]

Originally posted by Pipes
...Also, this is not a Vector, it is a purebred HK.

Of cause, but unaffordable for a "normal" person.

[Glockdude1]

Originally posted by MarcDW
Of cause, but unaffordable for a "normal" person.

I am sure Pipes's dept is hiring. You too could a MP5 issued to ya......

;N

[MarcDW]

Well, I as a Class III dealer can buy then for "normal" prices!

[TED]

Yeah pipes, I know it is a real one, that is why it is all the more cool, they are still a rarely seen item somewhat unique to the US Feds.

TED

[RenegadeGlocker]

First thing I would do is get rid of that Girlie-Trigger-Group (0-1-2)and put a Navy Trigger Group in there, or at minimum a 2 Round Burst Trigger Group.

[Pipes]

Originally posted by RenegadeGlocker
First thing I would do is get rid of that Girlie-Trigger-Group (0-1-2)and put a Navy Trigger Group in there, or at minimum a 2 Round Burst Trigger Group.

I guess that's where you and I differ. The first thing I did was add this:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/dspipes/4be95635.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/dspipes/9a5fb7d0.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/dspipes/14f272d7.jpg

I'm sure you know that it is probably frowned upon to switch out the trigger group on an issued weapon, right?

[RenegadeGlocker]

Originally posted by Pipes

I'm sure you know that it is probably frowned upon to switch out the trigger group on an issued weapon, right?

I guess it depends upon where you work. But then, other than the DEA I never heard of a LE agency that did not trust its officers with full-auto weapons.

[Pipes]

Originally posted by RenegadeGlocker
I guess it depends upon where you work. But then, other than the DEA I never heard of a LE agency that did not trust its officers with full-auto weapons.

There are plenty of agencies that do not issue full auto weapons. Many of those same agencies have full auto weapons, but don't send them home with individual officers every day. If I need the fully automatic version of this weapon or an M4, I'll check one out of the armory. I've never needed one. After all, I'm pretty sure that I can handle whatever I need to with 30 rounds of 10mm that I can shoot accurately as fast as I can pull the trigger than spray those same 30 rounds off in seconds.

I don't know where you learned about tactical shooting, but there is very little use for fully automatic weapons in law enforcement applications.

That's beside the point. The point wasn't whether where I work "trusts" me with an automatic weapon, it is that nearly all agencies that I know of do not allow officers to "get rid of" trigger groups and install their own on issued weapons. That is the quickest way to an officer incurring individual liability that I know of - and one of the dumbest things than an officer could do.

[RenegadeGlocker]

Originally posted by Pipes

That's beside the point. The point wasn't whether where I work "trusts" me with an automatic weapon, it is that nearly all agencies that I know of do not allow officers to "get rid of" trigger groups and install their own on issued weapons. That is the quickest way to an officer incurring individual liability that I know of - and one of the dumbest things than an officer could do.

I wasn't suggesting you should surreptitiously sway it out, just saying if I had my choice I would swap in a Navy Trigger group. If you are not allowed to, so be it.

[Bravo-Four]

That MP510 is just godamn -sick-. nuff said

[Glockdude1]

Originally posted by Bravo-Four
That MP510 is just godamn -sick-. nuff said

I know how you feel Bravo-Four, my dept only lets us play with the 9MM MP5's , not the 10MM's..........

;N