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Gixxer13
11-07-2005, 22:41
Anyone shoot a P226R Tactical with AAC Evolution 9 suppressor? I've been shopping for a 9mm supressed pistol package and i am thinking of starting the paperwork on this setup soon.

UZIFORME
11-08-2005, 03:05
I can comment upon the Evolution 9 but not on the Sig series of pistols.

Not knowing what the thread pitch is for the Sig I would suggest a second thread option for the Evolution 9 as they can be exchanged that way when you find a Glock or other gun with another thread pitch it can be moved over.

The spring in the silencer can also be replaced with a collar which will allow usage on fixed barrel guns

RenegadeGlocker
11-08-2005, 06:48
I shoot a 226 with can. The threads on the 226R are 13.5x1LH, which is highly undesireable for me, I prefer 1/2x28. That way I do not have to change shafts everytime I switch guns. I use a Jarvis barrel on my regular 226.

Gixxer13
11-08-2005, 08:23
Yeah i'm not crazy about the thread pattern either. Maybe i'll look into picking up a used 226R and 1/2x28 barrel. I haven't even seen 13.5x1 barrels for my glocks so that would mean i would have to buy the adapter from AAC which is probably expensive.

HKevolution
11-08-2005, 14:11
Why is the 13.5 metric LH thread undesireable?

Is it just because most cans are 1/2 X 28, or is there another reason?

I've an Evolution 9 waiting on the paperwork approval. The guys at AAC are outstanding, very helpful.

A plus to the Evolution 9 which isn't well know is it's POI can be adjusted by a simple pull and twist of the suppressor.

http://www.advanced-armament.com/products/pistols/evolution.asp

RenegadeGlocker
11-08-2005, 17:27
Originally posted by HKevolution
Why is the 13.5 metric LH thread undesireable?

Is it just because most cans are 1/2 X 28, or is there another reason?

I've an Evolution 9 waiting on the paperwork approval. The guys at AAC are outstanding, very helpful.

A plus to the Evolution 9 which isn't well know is it's POI can be adjusted by a simple pull and twist of the suppressor.

http://www.advanced-armament.com/products/pistols/evolution.asp

All my other 9mm barrels are 1/2x28. Nothing inherently wrong with 13.5.

tweakmeister
11-09-2005, 23:21
I'm slowly working my way through the process for the Evo-9 as well. Just received approval on the State level (Maryland is all done through one place), and now am waiting on the BATFE Form 4 to go through.

Currently have a Sig p228 and am ordering a Jarvis barrel for it. As far as I've been able to research, the cans come 1/2x28 by default, and it seems to be the most prevalent threading.

That 226R is sweet - probably an answer to the USP Tactical. I'd say go the custom route and find a pistol you like, then get the barrel...

Ookster
12-05-2005, 18:15
I'm thinking about buying a P226R Tactical as well, with the intention of getting an Evo-9 suppressor next year. Never owned one, so I don't know much. I've been doing a lot of reading online, here and at sigforum mainly.

Couple questions:

Do you need taller sights than standard to be able to see over the top of the can?

Do you guys find them quiet enough to shoot comfortably without ear plugs? What would you compare the sound to?

Eric

tweakmeister
12-06-2005, 10:26
There are some videos in the Silencertests.com forums.

UZIFORME
12-07-2005, 03:39
Yes it will be plenty quiet to shoot without hearing protection. Quieter than you are expecting if you think hearing protection might be needed.


As for the sights, yes taller sights can be installed.

Look across the room at a door knob. See the door knob, now hold a couple fingers in front of your dominant eye, hey look you see the fingers and you see the door knob. Same is possible with sights blocked by silencer. Dominant eye sees the sights, non dominant eye sees the target. Brain superimposes the two. Pull trigger shoot target.

Ookster
12-07-2005, 08:46
Uzi,

That sounds like a great idea for using the sights. I've been doing a lot of reading on suppressors the past few days, and many people say that it's not hard to shoot, even with the sights completely blocked. I always shoot with both eyes open anyway (right handed, right eye dominant), so I'll try this method.

Eric

Ookster
12-07-2005, 08:55
As for the volume level, I've read the tests done on silencertests.com. The Evo-9 (which seems to be the most efficient) take an unsuppressed 160 dB noise down to about 130 dB dry and 120 dB wet. This still seems like it would be pretty loud. I know it's a real quick sound impulse and not like the constant drone of concert noise, but 120-130 dB just seems louder than I expected. I guess I won't know until I try one. On most decibel level scales, 130 dB is just below the threshold of pain and comparable to a jet engine, jack hammer, etc.

Also, is it a pain to shoot a suppressor "wet"? How does this work, do you just dump a few cc's of oil into the bottom of the suppressor, or is there a compartment for it? Does it make a mess, i.e. run out the barrel, splash back on you during firing?

Sorry for all the noob questions. I appreciate you guys taking the time to answer them and share some knowledge.

Eric

UZIFORME
12-07-2005, 23:09
The noise level measurments are taken in front of the muzzle of a firearm. Not at your ear. Yes if the gun was shot with the muzzle right by your ear I am sure it would be uncomfortable. You are typically behind the gun at arms length. Also just because an electronic piece of testing equipment can pick up sound levels does not mean that your ear has the frequency range to hear the sound that is causing the DB meter to register.

You can shoot all day long with no problem on a 9mm. You will easily be able to hear the bullet impact downrange.

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