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Today at the range I was shooting some of my just received Double Tap 125 Grain JHP. This round cooks out of the G32. It felt like my old 357 magnum Smith revolver. I examined the gun after a couple of clips because it felt like it was being pounded by this stuff. Sure enough I noticed that the large pin that holds the trigger assembly was damaged with half of it gone. I must say I am disappointed by the gun's problem. I believe that a heavier recoil spring is in order to handle this round. This is now my second Glock in a row that has had some part fail. I will be calling Ben at Glockmeister tomorrow for his recommendations.
Greg
Today I received my 20lb recoil spring and steel guide rod from Glockmeister with my replacement pin. Hopefully I will have no more problems.
I did have a question about the 20lb spring: Can this affect the reliability of lower velocity 357 Sig rounds?
This particular board does not seem to have many visitors. Is my beloved 357 round lacking followers?
Greg
No experience here, but, I will toss out the fact that the SIG .357's use a 20# spring.
Sig 9x19's use a 15# spring :)
I think Glock went 17# as a "do-it-all" kinda approach.
Myself, I wasn't taking any chances... I have a 22# Wolff spring/rod which I will test out this Saturday :D
I expect all to go well... if you don't here from me it's running great ;)
Hey an answer! Maybe there is some life on this board.
I plan on trying my 20# out on Saturday. Ben of Glockmeister said to try this one first. He also suggested switching back to the standard recoil spring when using regular 357 Sig ammo. You know, the wimpy 1300 FPS stuff. Long live D.T.
Greg
Hi!
I had a pin break around 1998 in my G31.
And later a slide lock lever.
Neither stopped the gun.
Both were during bowling pin shoots.
That G31 has been shot nearly every week since.
I gave up count at 45,000 rounds about 2 years ago.
I replace the recoil assembly each year with stock.
That is it.
No further problems.
YMMV
The "pounding" of the rounds shouldn't have anything to do with the pin breaking. Maybe you damaged it taking it out or putting it back at some point ?
Tang419 Wrote:
The "pounding" of the rounds shouldn't have anything to do with the pin breaking. Maybe you damaged it taking it out or putting it back at some point ?
I never removed the pin on this weapon.
Greg
Still an odd happening. I just don't see how the bullets power can effect the pin the trigger rides on. Have you contacted Glock ? May have just been a bad pin, it just makes no sense to me.
If you change the recoil spring to a higher poundage you do run the risk of having cycling problems with other ammo. You just have to shoot different rounds and know which ones are problems. I've tried it on my 23 and always went back to standard because of cycling problems.
Range Report:
My Glock 32 is back to normal. The 20# spring seems to take a little bite out of the DT recoil. This round is a blast to shoot. The steel guide rod has added a small amount of weight to the front of the weapon and has slightly reduced muzzle flip. Lower velocity practice rounds are functioning fine.
Maybe the broken pin was a fluke. I will see how she does after another couple thousand rounds are put through her.
Greg
Originally posted by Greg W
Range Report:
My Glock 32 is back to normal. The 20# spring seems to take a little bite out of the DT recoil. This round is a blast to shoot. The steel guide rod has added a small amount of weight to the front of the weapon and has slightly reduced muzzle flip. Lower velocity practice rounds are functioning fine.
Maybe the broken pin was a fluke. I will see how she does after another couple thousand rounds are put through her.
Greg
Very nice to hear. Keep us informed. I may look into getting me a SS rod and a 20# spring.
I will keep the forum updated.
Greg
YukonGlocker
11-19-2005, 22:44
I have a G32 and love it. The Speer Gold Dots are hot enough for me, but I wouldn't hesitate using Double Tap's ammo. I have around 5000 rounds through my G32 with no problems.
I would not feed it a steady diet of DT defense ammo. I would not hesitate to practice with it though. This stuff is real hot. It is designed to stop a gun fight. One hit with this stuff in a vital area and it is over for your enemy. That is why I carry it for protection.
Greg
DeadMansLife
11-21-2005, 14:15
I don't understand all this parts breakage and upgrading to heavier springs. My G31 has 40k+ through it and all original parts.
DeadMansLife:
That is great news to hear. I went to the 20# spring as a precaution only. The SS guide rod/spring combo Glockmeister sold me is a neat package. My broken pin was probably a fluke.
Has your gun loosened up with that many rounds through it? Are your groups a little larger than when it was new? I am just curious to hear how well the gun has held up. Do you shoot a steady diet of hot rounds like the DT?
Thanks,
Greg
DeadMansLife
11-23-2005, 13:29
I shot one mag of DT that I got from a friend. I will be getting more.:)
As for the group size, it's the strangest thing, it shoots tighter now then when new. I believe the only reason is with so many rounds down range I shoot better, not the gun.
I've been wanting to change the mag springs for the past couple of years but cannot bring myself to it. Of the 6 clinton mags I have, all function 100%. I did buy 2 new standard cap.(15 rounders) mags for defense, they run 100% too.
The only failrues to feed or fire were not problems with the gun but the ammo and a single shooter. The ammo was Blazer. I kept topping off my mags at a match(tac reloads) and the rounds in the bottom of the mag were in there all day. Recoil caused setback and when I did get around to shooting them the case mouth hung-up on the ramp.
As for the shooter that FTF'd me G31, this guy can jam a BB in a 55 gallon drum. He has also FTF'd 3 other Glocks, HK USP's, all the Ruger P-series and MkII's that he has fired, 1911's, just about any other auto he has tried. He tried his hand at reloading and tied up a S&W 686 by not crimping the bullets. I told him he needs to learn to fight with a knife, guns will not save him.
DeadMansLife Wrote:
As for the shooter that FTF'd me G31, this guy can jam a BB in a 55 gallon drum. He has also FTF'd 3 other Glocks, HK USP's, all the Ruger P-series and MkII's that he has fired, 1911's, just about any other auto he has tried. He tried his hand at reloading and tied up a S&W 686 by not crimping the bullets. I told him he needs to learn to fight with a knife, guns will not save him.
LOL, that dude should definitely stay away from guns. Are you sure you would want to put a knife in his hands? He might stab himself.
Greg
Originally posted by DeadMansLife
As for the shooter that FTF'd me G31, this guy can jam a BB in a 55 gallon drum. He has also FTF'd 3 other Glocks, HK USP's, all the Ruger P-series and MkII's that he has fired, 1911's, just about any other auto he has tried.
If he jammed a Ruger P-Series, that means he can jam damn near anything. Tell him to stick to revolvers, or better yet, Derringers.
357glocker
11-24-2005, 11:28
I had my trigger pin break at about 5000rnds. I have the heaviest spring offered by glockmeister (24lbs ???). I replaced it and have put another two hundred flaweless rounds though it.
357glocker:
Has the heavier spring reduced some of the felt recoil? What model do you have this spring in?
Greg
357glocker
11-24-2005, 16:18
Mine is in the G31, but the front plastic bushing that "captures" the spring has been cracked now for quite a while. I think it cuts down on the recoil slightly. something to think about, I've heard it and it makes sense to me. The heavier springs may cut down on rearward slide speed but the heavier spring brings it forward faster/harder. So where do you want to save the wear/tear on your gun? I do think these guns take a little more beating than the other cals. After I shoot the rest of my batch of reloads I think I'm going to cut them back some. There are no pressure signs on the brass whatsoever, but with the broken trigger pin, cracked bushing, and slide peening which a Glock Armorer said is the worst he's ever seen I'm gonna cut back! My 124gr load shoots 1488fps I think I will cut it down to @1300fps for target loads anyway.
357glocker: That really is a hot round. I would definitely back off some for the practice rounds anyway.
How many rounds do you have through that 31? I am especially interested to hear about the slide peening. Do you have any pics?
Greg
The DT is really hard on my CPO Sig 229.
I may not use it as range ammo.
I've have a 20# spring on a captured SS Arotek guide rod fo about the past 3500 rounds (all kinds), no reliability issues at all.
357glocker
11-27-2005, 06:45
There is about 5000 rounds through my G31 total. I can try to get a picture of the slide peening tonight, but I'm not gonna promise the great quality of the photo. My camera phone isn't all that great! One of these next range trips I'll bring out the factory recoil spring and shoot a few mags with it and the heavy aftermarket spring back to back and let you know how I percieve the recoil.
DeadMansLife
11-27-2005, 14:22
Peening, G31, 40k+.
DeadMansLife
11-27-2005, 14:25
Other side.
DeadMansLife
11-27-2005, 14:39
The only real issue that I have with this pistol.
The feed ramp has flaked away a bit. It started @ about 18k rounds. I has not caused any stoppages yet.
That is normal on the slide.
Not on the feed ramp.
My G31 had over 45K when I quit counting.
It is still going strong.
I think early in this I mentioned only two things broke.
Neither stopped the gun from firing.
;f
357glocker
11-27-2005, 16:07
Thanks DeadMansLife, that is pretty much the same as my slide. The armorer I talked to said it looked worse than in any other glock he's seen...? What happened to the feed ramp to cause that to happen do you know?
DeadMansLife
11-27-2005, 20:42
No idea what happened to the feed ramp. I noticed it while cleaning it one day. My guess is it is just a bad spot ing the steel. I thought about polishing it out but the old saying keeps working on me,"If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Being a SD weapon, I guess I should fix it before it rears it's ugly head.
DeadMansLife:
Thanks for the pics. That don't look too bad to me. I wouldn't touch the feed ramp either.
Greg
I have polished all my Glock feedramps. Notice I did say polish, not buff until I've taken off a couple mm's of material. Most I have seen, so I guess all of the Glock feedramps have little grooves running horizontal on the feedramps. I mainly just shine things. I figure if it works stock, then its gotta work better with less friction.
deltaopwong
12-07-2005, 07:51
I'm running a 24lb IMSI spring on a SS captured guide will no problems with factory ammo.
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