Non-Staked Stock=Asking For Trouble?

[Leigh]

September '04 brought joy to many of us...I added a 6-pos telescoping stock to my Bushy but never had it staked.
1000+ rounds later I have had no issues BUT is this one of those "things" that will probably bite me in the backside later?
Other than careful but vigorous tightening with a CAR stock wrench I did use a very small amount of blue Loc-Tite on the threads (maybe 2-3 drops) when I assembled it, that is all. Thanks for any input.

[USMCsilver]

I've never staked, nor has my buddy. We've never seen one come loose. However, if it does, no biggie due to the fact that I have a CAR wrench in my range box anyhow.

The way I look at is, if I stake it, I'll have to remove it for some odd reason and it'll be a PITA. However, if I don't stake it, it'll come loose at some point. Lose, lose situation. However, I'll take my chances.

[glock19_fan]

How would you stake the nut if you had to do it?

I'm having trouble visualizing how it's done.
Thanks.

[DJ Niner]

There should be tiny notches on the FRONT side of the castle nut that are used for staking. The large notches on the back (or holes around the center, on older models) are for the stock wrench to "bite" on. Use a small center punch to move a bit of metal from the edge of the stock plate into the notch, to prevent the castle nut from moving/unscrewing.

I have noticed that some of the less expensive tele-stock assemblies do not have the staking notches at all. Which would make staking them somewhat difficult, at best.

I always stake mine, and have also been known to add a drop of screw glue, too. I'm a belt-and-suspenders kinda guy when it comes to preventing parts from falling off my weapon. They WILL loosen-up with use; the only questions are when will it happen, and how far away from your toolkit will you be?

[DJ Niner]

Check this thread for more info; on the ninth picture, on the far left edge you can see the notches in the castle nut, large AND small.

http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=305749

[Vinh]

I greatly prefer staked receiver extensions. I got tired of having to retighten the nut (but I didn't use glue). I only buy factory-staked lowers these days. A staked nut just means you'll never have to worry about it.

Normally I would say stake it and forget about it, but since you already used blue Loctite, it will probably be okay. RRA has been known to use red adhesive in the past.

[Leigh]

Thanks for all the input, I appreciate it!
Since I keep a stock wrench in my range bag I'll let it ride and post if anything fails down the road. I figured 1000+ rounds was a good count to see if anything failed (yes, even including 2-300 rounds of that that dreaded "unsafe" bump-firing).
So far, so good.

[glock19_fan]

Originally posted by DJ Niner
There should be tiny notches on the FRONT side of the castle nut that are used for staking. The large notches on the back (or holes around the center, on older models) are for the stock wrench to "bite" on. Use a small center punch to move a bit of metal from the edge of the stock plate into the notch, to prevent the castle nut from moving/unscrewing.

I have noticed that some of the less expensive tele-stock assemblies do not have the staking notches at all. Which would make staking them somewhat difficult, at best.

I always stake mine, and have also been known to add a drop of screw glue, too. I'm a belt-and-suspenders kinda guy when it comes to preventing parts from falling off my weapon. They WILL loosen-up with use; the only questions are when will it happen, and how far away from your toolkit will you be? Thanks DJ. That helps a great deal, along with the pictures.

I also use gun-tite on my stocks.

[dbrowne1]

If you can't or won't stake it, clean all surfaces thoroughly and use some loctite, and torque it down well with a proper stock wrench.

[Eric911]

Staking should look like this...
Toward the bottom.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/AR15forme/Colt%20AR15/6721wear.jpg

[Zagger]

If you are going to stick with your stock, and not change it, I think you ought to stake it. I have seen them come loose.

[Skintop911]

Torque and stake to spec. Cheap insurance.

Removing a staked stock requires a bit more effort, but not enough to make not staking it any real benefit.

[Mnukedude]

Originally posted by Zagger
If you are going to stick with your stock, and not change it, I think you ought to stake it. I have seen them come loose.

Me too. It happened to me.

[Belialson]

Never seen or had one come loose, but then again you never know. I have however removed a castle nut that was Loctited on and boy howdy was it a PIA.

Loctite is you friend...