Changing out the conneter bar, trigger spring and firing pin spring?

[hiflyer]

Ok what's your thought's on this one?
Should I just change the connecter bar to 3.5lbs with stock trigger spring which will give me a 4.5lbs pull instead of the stock 5.5lbs pull or 2nd choice also change the stock trigger spring with one offered by Glockparts.com to go to 3.5lbs or 3rd choice also change the firing pin spring with one from TopGlock.com to reduce it to 3lbs?
This is on my 26 which I carry and for home defense. I will be using a saf-t-blok on the 26 in a Don Hume Agent 711 OT!
Thanks,
Norman
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[Glock4Life]

Personally, I like to leave the trigger spring stock. Too many problems seem to arise from the change.

[5150Glock]

Why not go with a 5 pound Ghost Patrol or Tactical trigger connecter and call it a day? All the things you list are good for a competition gun but for a carry gun i wouldn't suggest it.

[DannyR]

Everyone wants a lighter trigger in hopes that it will improve personal shooting skills, but nobody is willing to practice enought to improve personal skills. It just does not make sense.

Go with a factory 3.5# connector and leave it at that. What good is a defensive weapon if the trigger spring is not reliable enough to reset the trigger, and the firing pin spring is not strong enough to reliably fire a round 100% of the time.

Dave Sevigny has won the world and IDPA championships using a factory, standard connector because it resets faster. Springs are also stock, all the way around. His secret--and don't tell anyone--is practice with a purpose, lots of it.

[5150Glock]

Or like DannyR says, a 3.5# and leave it at that. For some reason i forgot about that....;g ^8

[T. Harless]

For a carry gun I'd go 3.5 and leave it at that. I've had issues with both after marker trigger and firing pin springs.

[hiflyer]

Thanks for all the responses! I just ordered the Glock 3.5# connector and tool. I take her to the range and see how she feels.
Thanks again,
Norman

[smittyj]

The going to a lighter trigger pull depense on your use of the gun. If you were using it for carry or home defense I would stay with at least the 5# trigger pull to avoard the legal problems with the light trigger pull.


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[T. Harless]

Originally posted by smittyj
The going to a lighter trigger pull depense on your use of the gun. If you were using it for carry or home defense I would stay with at least the 5# trigger pull to avoard the legal problems with the light trigger pull.


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That's the commonly spouted urban legend that in the zillion threads on that topic here has yet to produce an credible instance. Scherer 3.5 in all my Glocks, carry or otherwise.

[smittyj]

Hopefully you will never find yourself in a situation where the SHTF and wind up in court with a prosecutor trying to make brownie points.


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[T. Harless]

Originally posted by smittyj
Hopefully you will never find yourself in a situation where the SHTF and wind up in court with a prosecutor trying to make brownie points.


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Hopefully I'll never find myself in a SHTF instance period. Again, the connector gig is urban legend. Go find, Perry Mason, a case where a connector has been an issue in a justified shooting. You won't, but you'll exacerbate the myth because you read it on the internet and it must be true.

I say a Scherer 3.5 and a polish job before the first, or third rather, round goes through it.

[smittyj]

You can always get justified shooting in a criminal case, but then you may have to face a civil case for an unjustified shooting by the family. Then you have to face a hold different set of rules.

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[T. Harless]

Originally posted by smittyj
You can always get justified shooting in a criminal case, but then you may have to face a civil case for an unjustified shooting by the family. Then you have to face a hold different set of rules.

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Again, just show me the instance. Simple question.

[smittyj]

I do not have the numbers of case histories in front of me that has happen across the country that I can post.

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[T. Harless]

Originally posted by smittyj
I do not have the numbers of case histories in front of me that has happen across the country that I can post.

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Naturally. Nobody else ever does either. You're been assimilated.

[smittyj]

OK, whatever floats your boat, but I think that I would rather error on the safe side

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[T. Harless]

Do that brother. Let's leave it there.

[smittyj]

T.Harless, I have enjoyed the conversation

[T. Harless]

Sure. Civil is always good.

[gary newport]

Originally posted by T. Harless
Sure. Civil is always good.

...unless its a civil suit!

(Just kidding, Todd. I also find it hard to believe that a case could be made that someone accidently and negligently pulled a lightened trigger when that one claims to have DELIBERATELY pulled the trigger in an act of self-defense. Are juries that stupid? On second thought, don't answer that!)

[T. Harless]

Originally posted by gary newport
(Just kidding, Todd. I also find it hard to believe that a case could be made that someone accidently and negligently pulled a lightened trigger when that one claims to have DELIBERATELY pulled the trigger in an act of self-defense. Are juries that stupid? On second thought, don't answer that!)

You know that's my point Gary. Show me the precident. There ain't one. Same tired ol snit.

[SouthpawG26]

Along the same lines: there isn't a single 100% factory internally stock 1911 out there. Yet, they have been used for justified shootings since the dawn of man. I don't think all of these 1911 owners have been prosecuted so far............

[Glock4Life]

With a good defense witness, it can be effectively argued that mods/additions can actually improve accuracy of the shooter therefore reducing the chances of injuring a bystander. Things such as night sights, laser sights, hollow points (if the prosecution decides to go there) and improved triggers can be used as a pro rather than a con in a trial.

[Diz]

I am relatively new to Glocks but have been smithing on 1911's and Hi-powers for a long time. I think you are better off polishing stock factory parts for better trigger pull than going to any after market stuff. This is strictly from a CCW/home defense standpoint, where utter reliability is the over-riding factor. I will say that the standard trigger pull on my G-19 was driving me nuts, real heavy pull right before the shot breaks, so I understand your concern. The funny part is my wife's G-26, unlike yours, has a really sweet trigger pull, right out of the box. I am in the process of stoning my parts to match hers.

[wrkerr]

Originally posted by T. Harless
Hopefully I'll never find myself in a SHTF instance period. Again, the connector gig is urban legend. Go find, Perry Mason, a case where a connector has been an issue in a justified shooting. You won't, but you'll exacerbate the myth because you read it on the internet and it must be true.

I say a Scherer 3.5 and a polish job before the first, or third rather, round goes through it.

Flame suit on...

I spent 12 years as an LEO back in the 70's when we all carried revolvers. Our department mandated that all single action sears be stoned off to render the weapon DAO. It seems some of our officers would cock their weapon and we did have a few negligent discharges. I HAVE seen a lawyer pass a cocked revolver around the jury and have them pull the trigger to show them how light a single action trigger is.
Perhaps the connector won't be an issue in court, but a light trigger will if the shooting was accidental. Remember, the jury will be made up of non-gun people easily swayed. If it can be shown that the trigger was INTENTIONALLY lightened from factory specs, negligence will be an issue. Again, I am talking about accidental shootings.

For the record, my G26 is box-stock except for night sights.

Just my $.02

[Smack]

Practice is the trick. I changed to a 3.5 lb connector and my groups moved right. After shooting stock, I now have to practice with the lighter trigger pull. It is nice but not an overnight wonder. Practice.

[O.D.G.]

What about the 3.5# connector and NY1 trigger spring? Anyone have any quality issues with this setup?

[Luvman]

Originally posted by O.D.G.
What about the 3.5# connector and NY1 trigger spring? Anyone have any quality issues with this setup?

I had a NY1 trigger spring with a 5 lbs connecter. it felt like a revolver. I didn't care for it. I dropped in a scherer 3.5 connector and a NY1 trgger WITHOUT the coil spring. I've only done some dry firing with this setup. the take up feels about right, a touch heavier than the factory trigger spring. but the break is a touch lighter so it all feels more balanced. unlike the factory setup which is a light take up with a heavier break.

YMMV,
Luv

[MIch_Packer]

Originally posted by DannyR
Everyone wants a lighter trigger in hopes that it will improve personal shooting skills, but nobody is willing to practice enought to improve personal skills. It just does not make sense.

Go with a factory 3.5# connector and leave it at that. What good is a defensive weapon if the trigger spring is not reliable enough to reset the trigger, and the firing pin spring is not strong enough to reliably fire a round 100% of the time.

Dave Sevigny has won the world and IDPA championships using a factory, standard connector because it resets faster. Springs are also stock, all the way around. His secret--and don't tell anyone--is practice with a purpose, lots of it.

I want a light trigger and I practice a lot. I'm not very good, but I'm better than if I didn't practice at all. The poster didn't mention how often he practices - could be a lot, might not be. His question was about parts - not about how much he practices.

I won't dig through the record books but I'll wager guns (Shooters) with lightened triggers have won as well.

In my G35 I have reduced power striker spring and safety spring with increased trigger return spring and a ghost rocket 3.5 connector. I like it. I didn't care for the NY1 combos. But it doesn't matter what I like it's what the individual shooter likes.

[tgriffin]

I have a G19 that I put the 3.5 lb bar in and it helped some. I just bought a G27 and am going to put the 3.5 bar in it also. How difficult is it to disassemble the trigger mechanism for honing?