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Big Bird
12-02-2005, 20:42
I originally posted this up in GNG and decided you all would appreciate it more so I added some pics as well.

OK, here's the Kahr P45 range report. I shot 230 rounds through the new gun today. 100 rounds of Winchester White Box 230 gr ball, 100 Rounds of Speer Lawman 230 gr TMJ, 20 rounds of Speer Gold Dot 230 gr, and 10 rounds of Corbon 185 gr.

The gun never missed a beat. Function was flawless through all ammo.

The accuracy was exceptional. At 10 yards I put the first 70 rounds through one big gaping hole that ate out the 10 ring and the edges of the 9 ring on an NRA 25 yard pistol target. The sights were dead nuts on. At 15 yards I was able to keep all but 6 shots in the 9 or 10 ring. All offhand slow fire.

The trigger is like all Kahr triggers. Compared to a Glock its a loooooong trigger pull. But its manageable and smoother than a Glock and it breaks very cleanly. But like all striker fired guns it takes a little work to get used to it.

The recoil is about like my Glock 32 with 357 Sig 125 gr Speer Gold Dots. The recoil is perhaps a little heavier but the impulse is slower than the Glock 32. It quite manageable though becuase that grip just fits you your hand so well...so you don't have to re-adjust after every shot. The checkering on the grip is pretty pronounced and even a little aggressive and I was worried it might be too rough. While it got just a tad irritating after 200 rounds its purpose is quite clear and unless you are shooting extended range sessions you are greatful for the added grip.

At 24 ounces loaded with 7 rounds its easily one onf the best packages available in 45 ACP both from a weight and size perspective.

This is my third Kahr and like the previous Kahr's I've owned it so far has proven both reliable and more accurate than manyt of my guns including several GLocks in my safe.
Its smaller in every dimension than my G-19 except one and that's height...its just a tad taller...but this lends to a better grip. You WANT all three fingers on that handle!

This gun made me smile quite a bit today...and its going to be with me in my winter jacket pocket for a while now.





This target is my first 10 yard group with the P45...that's 70 shots in that group. The Glock in the photo is a G-32 for size comparison.

http://www.hunt101.com/img/350486.jpg

A side by side comparison of the G-32 to the P-45. Notice both height difference and width difference.



http://www.hunt101.com/img/350487.jpg


Finally, the G-32 head to head with the P-45



http://www.hunt101.com/img/350488.jpg

MtnDewd
12-04-2005, 15:22
Big Bird,

Enjoyed your post! Very informative. Liked the pics too. Apparently it didn't need the usual 200 round break in. I recently purchased a T9 and it worked perfect right out of the box too! I have 450 rounds through it to date without any malfunctions. Keep us posted on your P45 if any problems arise. It's a new design, but if yours is typical, Kahr must have gotten it right.

MtnDewd

Waffen HK
12-04-2005, 20:06
Excellent report. My FFL just got a couple in, I will be checking them out this week.Are they only in 2 tone? KNow if they'll be coming in DLC. My PM9 is DLC and the finish is awesome.

Big Bird
12-05-2005, 05:07
Two tone is all Kahr lists on their site and its all I've seen. I can't imagine they wouldn't offer the gun with a black coated slide some time in the future...course you could just have the slide sent off to Birdsong or Robar and have it done for less than $100 too..

I also found out that this gun does well in my Fobus G19/23/32 holster as well! :cool:

Rusty Phillips
12-05-2005, 08:27
more 45 choices, more better


nice writeup

Bodhi
12-05-2005, 08:36
Originally posted by Waffen HK
Excellent report. My FFL just got a couple in, I will be checking them out this week.Are they only in 2 tone? KNow if they'll be coming in DLC. My PM9 is DLC and the finish is awesome.

One of the many boards I frequent had a post by someone that had emailed Kahr and they are supposedly releasing the P45 in DLC in March. My PM9 is DLC and I really like it as well. I bought a two-tone P45 this weekend and I will buy a DLC P45 when they release it. Just my personal preference, but I don't like carrying stainless slide's concealed. I prefer an all black gun.

JetPilot
12-05-2005, 14:36
Bodhi - I did the same thing for the same reasons. I have a PM9 in DLC and I really like the DLC slide as I too prefer black pistols for my ccw. I have a lot of two-tones in different finish types and colors for range work and the like, but for carry I really like an all black pistol the best.

But I didn't want to wait for an unknown time period on the P45 DLC so when a new two-tone P45 with tritium sights became available last weekend I went ahead and bought it. It was the only P45 that this particular very large volume stocking dealer has gotten in during the last several weeks so I knew I would have to jump on it right then and there if I wanted it.

As I suspected I really like the P45 a lot so I'll be an immediate buyer for the P45 DLC as soon as it's available. But that may be awhile since Kahr hasn't officially announced the release date on them yet. They will probably announce at the SHOT show I'm guessing.

sx-al
12-05-2005, 17:31
Thanks Big Bird! I'm thinking about getting one, I just want to wait a bit. I've yet to see one in Miami.

RepairMan
12-05-2005, 21:00
Originally posted by Bodhi
One of the many boards I frequent had a post by someone that had emailed Kahr and they are supposedly releasing the P45 in DLC in March.


If it was on pistolsmith, that was me...


I emailed them and that was the answer I got. I will be awaiting the release of the DLC model.

12-06-2005, 08:54
Has anyone bought a holster for this pistol?

Bodhi
12-06-2005, 13:22
Originally posted by beachjumper
Has anyone bought a holster for this pistol?

I emailed Comp-Tac ( Comp-Tac (http://www.comp-tac.com/) ) and Chris from Comp-Tac responded it would be a few weeks...which I guess means not until after January 1st.

I have searched every single holster maker and there is no one making a holster for it yet...the closest I can find is a generic holster for a 1911:(

I am carrying it in a horrendous $10 cheapo holster I bought at the gun show....I guess I will go back to my PM9 until someone steps up and makes a holster for it. Kahr doesn't even offer holsters that fit it on their website.

12-06-2005, 14:43
I bought a Mitch Rosen Slimline IWB crossdraw for my PM9. It is very light and snaps onto your belt for easy removal. However is is expensive and it takes a while once ordered since the holsters are fitted by hand so I'm sure Rosen can offer something for the KP45. It was worth it for me but I feel certain there are other holster makers that can come up with something less expensive for the new Kahr.
By the way, great shooting Big Bird!!

gbeau
12-06-2005, 20:33
Holsters for P45 most 1911 holsters should/will work, before I traded my P45 I could use a Galco FL424 and Galco CON424W Don Hume IWB H715 M NO 10-3 1/2. Of course try them before you buy them.

Question, I had problem(s) extracting a live round from my P45 do you have similiar problems. The round would not extract and hang up the slide.

Big Bird
12-06-2005, 22:19
You might not be pulling the slide back with enough force/velocity. It will loosen up with some shooting. But you need to pull back on the slide with enough velocity that the ejector contacts the back of the cartridge case with enough energy to overcome the force of the extractor spring.

Starbuck
12-14-2005, 13:28
I bought a P45 when they first came out and also had the problem with live round ejection. Kahr has now fixed the problem. The triangle hood over where round sits in barrel must be rounded off at the 2 o'clock position looking down the barrel. Early models did not get rounded off. I fixed mine with a dremmel tool in about 30 seconds. I had no other problems with the P45 but I do carry it mexican style IWB to keep it invisible. I also carry a P40 covert most of the time in normal position with no problems.

gbeau
12-15-2005, 00:43
Starbuck.
Doesn't the P40's have the ejection port rounded in the area you are talking about?

Thanks for your input.

srfl
12-15-2005, 02:41
It's nice to see another P45 range report here.

Good job Big Bird!

My range report of last month reflects the same thing reported here by Big Bird.

With respects to a holster, I use a Don Hum JIT holster for a CZ-40B which sells around $25 or so. The gun fits perfectly and the holster conceals the P45 very well.

I'd love to see an IWB along the lines of HBE's COM, Sparks' Watch Six or Versa Max II or other similar designs by other manufacturers.

Here's a photo of my P45 in my JIT holster:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/srfl/Kahrs/KahrP45Mag_Light.jpg

And for those of you who haven't seen it, here is my range report of the P45 here. (http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=457422)

Starbuck
12-15-2005, 07:15
Yes---you can see what needs to be done by looking at some other Kahr models. I spoke with Kahr last week and they are now rounding off that area to solve the problem.

srfl
12-15-2005, 12:53
Starbuck:

Did you have to send the entire top half of your gun to Kahr or just the barrel?

My P45 has the same problem of not ejecting loaded rounds and I don't trust myself with a Dremel or similar tool in hand.

Starbuck
12-15-2005, 12:59
If you want to send your barrel to Kahr talk to Brian to make arrangements. If you have access to another Kahr you can compare the barrels and see the difference and fix accordingly. Talk to Brian at Kahr first to confirm all information.