View Full Version : Do I need a PPK/S?
I'm thinking YES, but I wanted opinions.
I've been thinking about getting a Walther PPK/S for a little while (about 5 years!). I don't have a *need* for one, more of a strong want really.
Are there things to look for? Should I consider a new Smith and Wesson marked gun, or an Interarms? I've handled the PPK/S on occasion and they are very comfortable in the hand, but I have never actualy fired one.
For what it's worth I don't have much of a Walther Collection yet, only a P99 and a P22. But I still have time.;)
All opinions are welcomed. Thanks!
alwaysshootin
12-05-2005, 15:45
The German manufactured would be the one to have.
If you plan on it as a user, from my experience, you probally don't have a 50/50 chance of an Interarms being reliable hence they are no longer making them. So I would get a S&W if you plan on useing it.
I think they are a way cool pistol, not a pocket rocket, too heavy. I had one years ago, blued, very unreliable. My father has one in SS and has tried multiple mags for it and can't get through a mag without some kind of hiccup. Hopefully the Smiths are better, kinda curious how much they are going for. I would imagine somewhere in the 600.00 price range. I can think of alot of other guns I would spend my money on. You asked, there it is.
No...
My wife had one, now she has a SIG 232. The SIG is a much more user-friendly pistol. The SIG also has an alloy frame (available with SS if you want it) that makes it much nicer for carry.
The PPK would 'bite' the web of her hand and the safety would be inadvertantly activated during strings of fire.
I would not trust the PPK for anything but (painful) range use.
YMMV
denfoote
12-05-2005, 16:44
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HoustonHusker
12-05-2005, 16:56
See my thread below for how well the 'new' version works.
I HAD the Interarms PPK/s 4 years ago, and dumped it. It was just too painful to shoot and I didn't appreciate railroad tracks on the web of my hand.
S&W has made many improvements in these new ones, and it's a pleasure to shoot now....and VERY accurate. The S&W ones are the only ones I'll own and I'm thinking seriously about getting another one in a few months.
They're that good and well-made.
HH
michael t
12-06-2005, 00:46
Yes get a new S&W should be able to find for less ths 500. Cost for dealer is around 400. Last I new. The terrible bite problem is taken care off. I lusted for a PPK for over 20 years. I have my Interarms SS and Mine has been trouble free In pocket as I type.. I wish I had all the money to buy these Interarms that didn't work I sure I would have a nice collection of working PPK/S . Ican carry the PPK/S in my Pocket Can't do that with the Sig or the Bersa.
Would I like a German pistol sure But Iam not paying the price people think these pistols are worth.And the 32PP x cop guns for 250 don't do a thing for me I have looked at several.I Might use one as glove box pistol.
Go treat yourself to a New PPK or PPK/S and have a nice day.
HoustonHusker
12-07-2005, 14:13
I bought mine from these guys, and their service was really good-and their price the lowest I had found:
www.budsgunshop.com
HH
Picked up my S&W PPK for $450. Now its in my pocket everywhere I go. The Walther can't be beat for a pocket gun!
BadLight
12-07-2005, 17:45
to each his/her own...
I purchased a PPK/s on a whim. It had major problems with reliability (hell it was close to 35 years old). I repaired the gun and voila' a masterpiece for SD carry. Tiny, packs a decent punch and goes in the pocket. My philosopy is that all civilian gun battles occur within 5 feet and last about 3 seconds. Given that the PPK/s meets all the requiremnts. I would highly recommend one. Take it to the range, shoot it, sort out any problems and then enjoy the comfort of reaching into your pocket and feeling the grip of your PPK/s.
With a good self defense round it's as decent as anything you can buy.
My PPK/s is not for sale (and it is an Interarms manufactured weapon)
As far as the "biting" I think that's just poor hand placement, probably because of being a "newbie" with the gun or possibly inexperience with a "pocket pistol". If you're use to shooting a full frame the PPK/s *will* be a bit of a change
michael t
12-07-2005, 22:28
Badlight You been reading to many of my posts.Your starting to sound like me.
Thanks guys for all the info. I'd love to have a PPK/S, but it just really doesn't fill a need, that isn't already covered by one of my other weapons. There's a few other pistols/weapons that I can justify in the near future though.
I'll still get a PPK/S eventually, but it isn't a priority.
Thanks again.
BadLight
12-08-2005, 15:50
Badlight You been reading to many of my posts.Your starting to sound like me.
Maybe so. But I just like the damn little gun ;f
You may already have a .380 pocket pistol, so you think it doesn't fill a need. But is yours as pretty as the PPK? :)
Need? Of course you need one, especially if it's been gnawing at you for 5 years. Even if it has no real nitch to fill.
I recently had the urge and bought the laser engraved S&W stainless - in the photo. Shoots great with no failures over 300 rounds so far. Accurate. Sights a bit small but not bad. Even with the longer tang I occasionally get a bit of bite.
The DA trigger pull is very stiff and the SA is smooth but also could be lightened. So I plan on getting a trigger job eventually.
Here's what you do. Buy one like this one, put a bow on it and give it to your wife for Christmas. She'll say 'That's lovely honey, but I really didn't need a gun." Since you can't re-gift a gun, you keep it. ;)
The engraved don't cost much more than the stainless.
-- Dan
BadLight
12-09-2005, 05:23
Revolvr, that's one of them "purdy" ones! I'm a little concerned about the tang on the grip that seems to press up against the mag release though. Could be the camera angle though.
michael t
12-09-2005, 18:57
Don't be posting pictures like that. Now my poor old Interarme has a complex.Now she's Afraid I might trade her for a younger one.
I will need to go and give her a good rub down and cleaning to calm her down.
HoustonHusker
12-09-2005, 19:09
michael,
I'm thinking warm oil to lube her up, and then wipe the excess off.
She'll thank you VERY much and return the favors over and over!
;f
HH
michael t
12-10-2005, 00:45
Gave her a good cleaning and a massage. She's here on desk resting on a clean white cloth. All is forgiven ;)
I prefer the PPK/s over the PPK - the bite thing is dependent on how fleshy and large your had is. The PPK/s has a little bigger grip so it's easier to hold without getting bit.
Get a German made one.
michael t
12-10-2005, 13:07
Originally posted by 1911nut
I prefer the PPK/s over the PPK - the bite thing is dependent on how fleshy and large your had is. The PPK/s has a little bigger grip so it's easier to hold without getting bit.
Get a German made one.
Why get a German made one After WW2 they were made in France and only feed ball ammo with any relieabily. They want a large sum of money and their all used. They are not worth the money as a shooter or carry weapon So unless your a collector the Interarms or the new S&W are a better deal.
Also it was the so called German ones that gave Walthers the rep as a biter.Wasn't it? Lets see years ago they tried to kill the president of N. Korea with a PPK it jamed had to find another pistol to finish job. Then their was a certian English Lord killed by IRA if memory serves me correct. The PPK he was useing to defend himself with also jamed. Both of these were the so call Great German pistols. Gee I think I'll keep my American PPK/S Thank You.
How many of the German ones do you own and carry and what ammo do use use for SD in them ?
HoustonHusker
12-10-2005, 19:22
By the way, no one NEEDS a PPK/s...we just want them!
I'm seriously thinking about getting the 2-tone PPK/s to go with mine.
HH
About a month ago I bought one of the newest S&W Walther's available...a 6 shot PPK with the blued finish. It has been 100% reliable with every jacketed HP and FMJ round I've tried. Very accurate as well. I can't say enough good things about this pistol!!
remember the ppk/s is a pp slide on a ppk frame.so you have the shorter slide/barrel on the taller (1 EXTRA ROUND)PP FRAME.
My interarms has been a great gun for 315 nib back in 98/99.the smiths have a longer(ugly)beavertail.
reinbeau
12-17-2005, 18:50
I just got home from my Second Amendment Sisters meeting, and I brought my S&W made PPK/s with me this time. I had absolutely no problem with it, I probably put 60 total rounds through it. Some of the other girls tried it and loved it. It feels like a cap gun after shooting the G23 and 1911.
HoustonHusker
12-17-2005, 19:06
That's great to hear, reinbeau!
They are addicting....I'm seriously considering a 2nd one!
HH
michael t
12-18-2005, 01:12
I had a friend who has 6 PPK/S He bought #6 when I was looking to see how much money I was carrying. I had been looking at it and set in down to check money Was planing on buying out right or put on lay a way.. He picked it up I though to look at, walk over and laid it down with his money and told dealer he would take it. Known him close to 40 years off and on. He sees nothing wrong with what he did nor did his wife that was with him.
HoustonHusker
12-18-2005, 08:49
Nice friend. ;Q
I really like all-stainless, and I'm wondering now if the 2-tone is all-stainless, too. If it is, how do they get the frame to have that bluish finish?
HH
michael t
12-18-2005, 22:51
I don't think so. Get one of the engraved ones. Their only a little more
HoustonHusker
12-18-2005, 22:54
I haven't seen one yet in person...only on a few websites.
If I got an engraved one, Mrs. HH would probably 'own' it immediately!
HH
michael t
12-19-2005, 10:42
Get 2 1 for you and 1 for her. Then promious to be a good boy for 1 mo and not buy anything else.
HoustonHusker
12-19-2005, 10:45
Wish I had the money to get 2 of 'em....she'd love to have an engraved one.
I just want the 2-tone version to have 1 of each.
HH
I frequently see one or two of these laser engraved models at the local gunshows. Also there are usually several on GunsAmerica. Appears to be at least 2 versions, one labeled as "premier" which has the eagle engraving, and one labeled as a "tiger" with of course a tiger engraved. There is also a "gold" version of each which is more expensive.
I am thinking of giving my purty PPK to Mrs. Rev. Actually she doesn't know I have it yet. ;)
But there are two things she, and I suspect most women, will not like: The DA trigger pull is very heavy, and racking the slide back is not easy. Perhaps a topic for another thread...
-- Rev
Originally posted by HoustonHusker
I haven't seen one yet in person...only on a few websites.
If I got an engraved one, Mrs. HH would probably 'own' it immediately!
HH
reinbeau
12-19-2005, 20:48
An engraved PPKs? Oh, I don't want to see it....;3
HoustonHusker
12-19-2005, 20:55
Rev,
I saw one posted on this forum, and a few on the other site.
They are gorgeous....Momma wouldn't let me keep it long. I'm going to the next gun show and look specifically for one that's engraved and one that's a new 2-tone.
HH
Stainless Chili
12-29-2005, 18:14
EVERYBODY should have a PPK/S.
It is a perfect high-ride pistol, reliable [after shake-down], and darn handsome.
Originally posted by Stainless Chili
EVERYBODY should have a PPK/S.
+1
I have a 1976 W German PPKS, excellent pocket pistol. The old German ones seem to hold their value rather well. In fact, they seem to be getting more expensive.
I looked at a new PPK/S today and had a hard time putting it down. It was $449 and I have a feeling it may be in my safe later this week.
I've shot German made PPK and PPK/s in 32 and 380 - they were dated 1960's and 1970's. They shot ball and hps very reliably. The PP and PPK/s I have now are German made and both in 22. The machining and finish is of higher quality than my Interams PPK 380.
I've only seen blue German pistols. According to Earl's Walther webpage the German PPK/s, PPK and PP are still available and run around $1000.
The Smith and Wesson PPK/s are a good value - they appear a bit rougher and use mim parts. The debate over mim parts is endless - I have guns with mim parts and have not have problems and some have been shot many thousands of times.
DragonTails1
01-04-2006, 01:00
>>I have an older model PPK/S which is reliable with a variety of ammo...but shoots certain ammo more accurately than others. I also have a Sig 232 which I find more accurate with a variety of ammo. Both guns bite into the web of my hand unless I purposely give it a lower than natural hold (I have big hands).
I would still like to have a S&W PPK, preferably blued vs Stainless. I like to fact these new ones have done away with slide bite, and it is my understanding they are more like my Sig in terms of ammo - shoot a variety well and to POA...TW<<
michael t
01-04-2006, 14:30
Originally posted by Dobber
I looked at a new PPK/S today and had a hard time putting it down. It was $449 and I have a feeling it may be in my safe later this week.
Well your in trouble you have the feeling and we all know the feeling. That why we all have a PPK or PPK/S because of the FEELING Their only one cure GO NOW AND BUY You will not rest till you stop the feeling.
HoustonHusker
01-04-2006, 14:46
Dobber,
That's a doggone good price! You'll be glad you bought it!
;f
HH
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