P99C vs G26

[thejackbull45]

OK After alot of debating over which gun and which cartridge for CC Ive decided between P99c and Glock 26.

Tell my why the P99 is better (or worse). I am looking for measureable stuff (durability, accuracy, reliability, service etc etc) not personal stuff (fit, looks, trigger feel etc).

Thanks

[ShipWreck]

I carried a G26 for 8 years. Never been much of a Glock shooter, but at the time, it was the only gun I knew of w/ the Tennifer coating. I wanted a carry gun I could sweat on and then just throw it on the shelf when I got home. I didn't want to oil it down 1x a day or 1x a week, etc.

I put the +0 Pierce grips on it. But, no matter how much I practiced, I always shot low and to the left w/ it, a G17 and a G19 I used to have. I can only shoot the G34 w/ the lighter trigger accurately, and I love my G34.

After my last range trip recently, I said "screw it." I was already in the process of trying to get a full size 99, and I figured I'd get a compact one as well. So, I sold my G26 and bought a compact Walther A/S 9mm (I hate the QA trigger). I shoot much more accurately w/ it. Also, I like being able to adj the sights, both front and rear, w/o needing special tools or a gun smith.

My accuracy is much better, and I like being able to carry in SA mode if I wish to.

That being said - I will admit that while the P99 has a tennifer coating, the black carbon coating on top is not as durable as the Glocks. I did have to refinish my G26 at the factory 1x, and a Glock will show holster wear. But, it takes many months usually. The Walther showed wear after a couple of weeks. I plan to hard chrome my slide next year, and that will take care of that issue. It is $80 thru Tripp Research.

So, my opinion is this - IF you can shoot a Glock 26 accurately, or satisfactorily, I would say to go w/ that. It is probably cheaper, and the Glock is simpler and mure durable.

But, given that, I still would take the Walther over the G26 anyday, but that is my preference. I like the SA trigger, and am more accurate w/ it.

[thejackbull45]

The finish wore off not the Tennifer right? So it was a cosmetic issue right?

[ShipWreck]

Correct. Not the tennifer. And, there is just slight wear on the very front areas of the slide. It's not like the whole slide is worn. I've had it about 2 months now. Also have a full size S&W99.

So yes, it is just cosmetic.

The gun will come 2/ two mags - one with the pinky bottom and one w/ a flat mag. The base plates are hard to come buy, and only Earl's Repair Service sells them (that I know of). I was fortunate that someone on AR15.com sent me one for free. But, you can buy new mags online w/ the plate.

I really love the gun, though. Feels good in the hand, and I am confident in it. Looks nice too. I would have bought one years ago if I had realized it is covered in tennifer - it was sort of a recent discovery for me.

[Jake Starr]

Can't speak for the Glock. I have fired a few but never owned one. But as for the P99c I can say that it shoots every bit as good as any of my other full-size 9mms. It is very accurate and I don't find it "whippy" or "snappie" as some others claim. If I had bought this first, I just may not have bought the full-size P99 that I own. Although I am glad that I have both...;f

[thejackbull45]

shipwreck

Is the P99 really thicker than the 26?

[Jake Starr]

Width

Glock 26: 1.18 in.

P99: 1.2"

Each was taken from their own web site.

[ShipWreck]

Yea, it's pretty much the same.

[lunde]

CDNN is selling genuine Walther P99c magazines, with either flat or extended floorplates, for $20 a pop.

[AITruckGuy]

I know it's been said before, but try both and decide for yourself. I looked at a 99 that my local shop had at a good sale price, liked the looks, wanted it to go with the wife's P22. I rented one three different times and found that no matter how much I wanted to like the gun I didn't enjoy shooting it.
I bought a 26 and like that gun so much I can't bring myself to buy another gun. (I imagine I'll get over that one of these days ...) This is one of those times that YMMV is right on.
Rent them both, buy what you like.
:cool:

[thejackbull45]

What didnt you like about it?

[ShipWreck]

I will admit that the Glock doesn't seem to move as much after the shot. But, I never could shoot the damn Glock 26 I had for 8 years. ALWAYS shot low and to the left. Finally had enough and got the Walther... It shoots great for me.

[AITruckGuy]

Originally posted by thejackbull45
What didnt you like about it?

As I shoot the 26, the felt recoil seems to push back against the hand. By the time I release to reset, the front sight is back on target. With the 99, it felt more like it kicked upward and the re-aquisition of the front sight was not as natural. Or as quick.
Like any recoil issue, it's largely a matter of perception. YMMV
All of which is why "try before you buy" is a good idea with any handgun.

[BHP_Fan]

Originally posted by thejackbull45
OK After alot of debating over which gun and which cartridge for CC Ive decided between P99c and Glock 26.

Tell my why the P99 is better (or worse). I am looking for measureable stuff (durability, accuracy, reliability, service etc etc) not personal stuff (fit, looks, trigger feel etc).

Thanks

If you want a pistol where parts and accesories are much more plentiful and available, get the Glock. That's just about the only big advantage I see the Glock over the P99C.

Regarding the measurable stuff that you mentioned:
durability - same
accuracy - If P99C has AS trigger, then slight advantage to P99C.
reliability - same though I lean a bit more to Glock (proven 10 year history vs 2yr history for P99C)
service - I am assuming it's the same. However, If SW has crappy customer svc, then advantage to Glock as I never dealt with SW.

price - so far, slight advantage to P99C. I bought mine used out of the door (with tax and other BS) for $350. I have yet to find a G26 at that price for me.

[AITruckGuy]

Originally posted by BHP_Fan
service - I am assuming it's the same. However, If SW has crappy customer svc, then advantage to Glock as I never dealt with SW.



Actually, Smith and Wesson probably has the best customer service in the business. I had to send in a Walther for repair and they had me set up for a FedEx pickup before they even asked what was wrong with the gun. I stuck a note in the box asking about wear and got a hand-written answer back along with the repaired gun. Total turnaround was about two weeks. Out of pocket expense was 0.
Frankly, S & W service was one of the reasons I looked at the 99. I like my 26 and I'm going to wait until the M&P is out in 9mm to get a Smith.

[BHP_Fan]

Originally posted by AITruckGuy
Actually, Smith and Wesson probably has the best customer service in the business. I had to send in a Walther for repair and they had me set up for a FedEx pickup before they even asked what was wrong with the gun. I stuck a note in the box asking about wear and got a hand-written answer back along with the repaired gun. Total turnaround was about two weeks. Out of pocket expense was 0.
Frankly, S & W service was one of the reasons I looked at the 99. I like my 26 and I'm going to wait until the M&P is out in 9mm to get a Smith.

Well then the advantage regarding service will be the same as I also heard good things about customer service from Glock also.

I never used their customer services in my years owning Glocks as I never had any problems with the pistols. I also don't have any problems with my P99C either. Hence, I don't use the service much at all. I post it by word of mouth from owners.

[thejackbull45]

Originally posted by BHP_Fan

accuracy - If P99C has AS trigger, then slight advantage to P99C.



Are you saying the QA trigger is not as accurate as the AS?

[ShipWreck]

The A/S - has a SA/DA system. When using the SA, it takes less effort to pull the trigger. Since the QA has a heavier trigger, it will probably be harder to shoot quite as accurately, since it takes more force to pull the trigger.

[BHP_Fan]

Originally posted by thejackbull45
Are you saying the QA trigger is not as accurate as the AS?

If you're talking about AS DA first shot, then QA trigger is as accurate if not more. If you're talking about AS SA or cocked trigger, then I have to say QA trigger is not as accurate 'cause it's heavier.

The QA trigger is similar to Glock in that it has a constant trigger pull from first shot to last shot, but it's not as heavy as the DAO trigger.

However, that's accuracy on paper. In the real world, it's up to the shooter on how accurate the firearm is. If you're more accurate with a QA than with AS, then by all means, use the QA trigger.