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john from md
12-11-2005, 09:27
their Kahr pistols? I've been thinking of putting a set of Mepro's on my P9. It has the old slide cuts and I don't know if this makes the job easier or harder.

Thanks,

warmrain
12-11-2005, 11:35
Neither as they are available for both the old and new slide configuration.

Kahr night sights (http://www.kahrshop.com/index2.asp?cate=acc&model=sights)

Edited out the word "not" to correct my meaning...

john from md
12-11-2005, 14:06
Warmrain,

Your post confuses me. On the Kahr website, they are advertising Meprolight sights, model ML15109 for the old style slide cut. Would you care to elaborate why you think they are not available?

Regards,

warmrain
12-11-2005, 15:10
Originally posted by john from md
Warmrain,

Your post confuses me. On the Kahr website, they are advertising Meprolight sights, model ML15109 for the old style slide cut. Would you care to elaborate why you think they are not available?

Regards,
My bad, I didn't mean to have the work not in there... ;Q I edited it out of that post...

They are definately available for both old and new slides so I think you're good to go...

The Mepro's are the brightest sights of all the ones I have.

I have been told on the forum that the Kahr dove tails are cut very tight and that this is difficult to do... If aren't up to it or have not got a 'smith handy you might think about sending the slide back to Kahr...

I haven't attempted this myself. I have drifted sights with a non-maring drift (came with my XS 24/7 sights from Kahr) and a mallet. But I think getting them started into the dove tail cut straight is critical.

john from md
12-11-2005, 16:38
Thanks for the clarification. I may send it back to Kahr as the front sight base is really thin and I don't want to screw it up.

Regards,

warmrain
12-11-2005, 16:55
Originally posted by john from md
Thanks for the clarification. I may send it back to Kahr as the front sight base is really thin and I don't want to screw it up.

Regards,
My consern too. There is so little material there; in both the slide and the sight!

Look at what can happen... It may not be obvious, but the dove tail has been buggered up by this ham fisted 'smith who decided not to use the Loktite red that came with the sight kit:

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Tough Guy Levi
12-11-2005, 18:49
Howdy:

Thought I'd throw my 2 cents into the fray regarding night sights. I have PT-IWI (Las Vegas) nights sights on my Kahr PM 9mm (9093). Rudolph could use them to navigate on Christmas Eve. Green up front, two yellow dots in the rear.

Tough Guy Levi

john from md
12-11-2005, 19:27
Warmrain, I feel your pain. I too had a hamhanded smith break the tang on my family heirloom, 1894 Win 38/55 (made in 1894!). Poor craftsmanship goes a long way.

Tough guy, who put your sights on? Did you use a local smith or send it to Kahr?

Regards,

plumbum2
12-11-2005, 20:27
[QUOTE]Originally posted by warmrain
[B]My consern too. There is so little material there; in both the slide and the sight!

actually the material "thickness" is normal or on par with pretty much every other company that uses dovetails.

loctite isnt 100% necessary to put sights in. in all reality is is mainly meant for holding the sights down. as an extra measure of safety to make sure the sight doesnt move. (if the fit was a little loose)

what a lot of people dont realize is some sights will not fit correctly unless they have material taken off them.(i.e. filling with special files ect.) that is from the differance in tolerances from the sight maker to the cut in the slide.

for instance if the the slide is cut to the minimum tolerance and the particular sight is cut to the maximum tolerance. you will most likely have to take material off of the sight to get it to fit.....

hope this helps.

warmrain
12-11-2005, 22:53
John, If I told you I would probably burn the last plank of the bridge I have to getting warranty work done.

plumbum2, I understand and agree with what you said, but I am having difficulting applying it to my example.

john from md
12-12-2005, 04:38
Warmrain,

I was not asking who put your sights on, I was asking Tough Guy Levi who put his PT sights on. I understand your situation and I would be careful too, at least until the repair was completed.

Regards,

Michigun
12-12-2005, 06:41
Originally posted by plumbum2
what a lot of people dont realize is some sights will not fit correctly unless they have material taken off them.(i.e. filling with special files ect.) that is from the differance in tolerances from the sight maker to the cut in the slide.

for instance if the the slide is cut to the minimum tolerance and the particular sight is cut to the maximum tolerance. you will most likely have to take material off of the sight to get it to fit.....

^6

I haven't done a Kahr or a SIG sight install yet where I didn't have to remove some material from the sights.

(FYI, you can only bang on a night sight so much before the tritium vile/tube breaks.)

Tough Guy Levi
12-12-2005, 09:35
Howdy:

After one of my friends messed up his slide while trying to install night sights on his Glock, I sent my Kahr to PT-IWI (www.ptnightsights.com) in Las Vegas. The turn around was very quick!!

Tough Guy Levi

PS: Any competent smith can install your night sights. They use a special tool/jig to remove/install sights. Banging on the sight nailed my friends inserts plus dinged up his slide trying to save $40. The repair bill was three times the smith price!!

ktd
12-16-2005, 12:44
I just replaced my somewhat older model k9 sights. The rear was the usual moderate pain, but the front sight was a fairly horrific experience. I broke the post off getting it out and ended up having to grind the dovetail in half and even then the halves were still hard pressed into the slots. Then after some issues with buying new sights that were actually for the new style dovetails when I was told they were the old style and some horsetrading to get new sights, the new front sight actually went in fairly easily, as did the MMC rear, while still being properly snug. Personally, I do not know why Kahr went to the new style, it does not seem like an improvement and actually seems worse than the old style. (note that the new style is a change in the rear, the front sight is the same dovetail)

If you are handy and have some tools and are forewarned (ie, hard to take out front, may have to grind out sight, and file new sights to fit) you can do it yourself, otherwise, I would have Kahr do it.

john from md
12-16-2005, 14:54
Dottie at Kahr emailed me and said they only charge $30 for the job. It is not worth the hassle of doing myself for that kind of money. As soon as the holidays are over, my P9 is heading North for a new set of Mepro's.

BikerRN
12-16-2005, 17:07
I replaced the sights on my PM9.

Kahrs are really tight so be careful. Instead of sending them to Kahr I would go to a local,good and highly reputable gunsmith. Take care and good luck. It's a 10 minute job at most, why hassle with sending the slide back to Kahr?

plumbum2
12-16-2005, 17:18
where to buy pt night sights? their sight is down it looks like.

well i really want a plain rear, tritium front. the closest it looks like i can get is a bar rear, dot front.

warmrain
12-16-2005, 17:28
Originally posted by plumbum2
...well i really want a plain rear, tritium front. the closest it looks like i can get is a bar rear, dot front.
Why do you find that arrangement desirable? It's what I have on my NAA .32 ACP and (essentially) what is on my snubbie revolvers. It is difficult for my to use without bobbing the front sight up and down a few times to find out where it is in relation to the rest of the gun...

plumbum2
12-17-2005, 10:20
my personal feelings of night shooting ect. are.....

from "clearing" my house a couple of times in the dark. ive pretty much come to the conclusion that i would most likely not be lining up the sights for a perfect shot. i mainly want a dot out front so i can point the gun, (find the muzzle on a body). if its really dark the night sights are all you can really see and i dont want it that way. people always seem to think that you have to line up the sights for perfect target shots. for me at least its not true. up to a certain range i dont even need to use the sights to hit what im aiming at. my "one hole" ability goes down a lot. but only to a 4" group size or so. and at home invasion ranges that is perfect....

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