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hogglock
12-31-2005, 09:49
Tried posting this question in general, and not one response. Please forgive me Eric, I'm desperate!
I need to find a graphics card (AGP) that will run my new widescreen monitor at 1680x1050 in DVI. I presently am running an eVGA FX5500 that works fine in analog, but using the DVI I have to lower the resolution to get it to display. Native resolution for the monitor is 16x10, and I really want to use the DVI.
I'm not a gamer, and I can't see spending $300 on a card to do what I want.
Anybody know of a reasonably priced card that will support 1680x1050 in DVI?
Hell, I'd be happy with some links to some good sites that would at least help me research this...I've spent HOURS on google with no luck...
Thanks

HAVOC
12-31-2005, 14:21
eVGA's site (http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=128-A8-N319-LX) shows 1600x1200 as a max resolution. It seems odd that it can't do wider than 1600 pixels. I wonder if it's driver or hardware. Seems common along much of eVGA's line, even some $300 cards. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Can't say as I've ever noticed different analog and digital resolutions before. Not that I've ever looked...

More importantly, what's the big deal about DVI? Are you trying to run a second, DVI-less monitor off the VGA port? The practical visual difference between digital and analog from a good card through a good cable to a good monitor is minimal, at best. Some reviews even show that VGA is better, strangely enough.

For free, it's a good enough "upgrade", but spending money soley to use DVI is wasted money. I've looked at a few other makers, and haven't seen one specify a different resolution limit for analog and digital. Whether this means they aren't different, or they just fail to mention the difference, it left to the reader...

If you're dead set on getting a new card, I'd reccomend you find a card you like based on features/performance/whatever and then email the manufacturer and ask them if there's a digital resolution limitation.

hogglock
12-31-2005, 14:52
Havoc,
Thanks for the reply. I guess I wanted to use DVI because I've heard that the image quality is supposed to be "better" than VGA. But to tell the truth, the image quality on the new monitor is absolutely stunning, hell, I'm probably too old and blind to see any difference if it's small. The 5500 displays Call of Duty (the only game I've got) beautifuly, even in analog at native resolution, blows me away.
I'm gonna take yours as the voice of reason, and be happy with what I've got. The card came with the little DVI/VGA adapter, which runs the little 15" Viewsonic just fine in dual monitor mode.
Thanks for the advise, ya saved me some money.

Washington,D.C.
12-31-2005, 16:24
Have you tried the latest Nvidia driver for your present card?

fastvfr
12-31-2005, 20:19
Originally posted by Washington,D.C.
Have you tried the latest Nvidia driver for your present card?

Right. Chances are that a different driver will fix this issue...but not necessarily the newest one. Those newer UDA drivers are mostly for optimizing the features found in the 6xxx- and 7xxx-series nVidia cards.

Try running Driver Cleaner first, though, as that'll remove all traces of the old drivers. No conflicts that way.

hogglock
12-31-2005, 20:43
I do have the latest driver installed. Just got an email reply from evga, they said max DVI resolution supported is 1600x1200...I guess they haven't figured out the widescreen thing yet. Still, gotta wonder, they've had widescreen laptops for a while.
Just for the hell of it, I'm gonna email Dell support, and see what cards they recommend.
If I hear back from Dell (fat chance) I'll post here.
I know I'm not the only one with one of these monitors...

Washington,D.C.
12-31-2005, 21:12
That is a problem with the older cards and the wide screen LCD's.Nvidia has a beta driver or I think it was just released to address that problem but it might only work with the newer cards.The problem is not the resolution but the bandwidth of the signal.There are some new DVI standards.Is your latest driver from Evga or from Nvidia's website?

Washington,D.C.
12-31-2005, 21:19
Here's the beta release which I think has now gone final.This one is dated Dec 28,2005


http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1292

Washington,D.C.
12-31-2005, 21:27
Download and save the new driver above on your hard drive.Then download and save this program.Open and run this program.Use it to unistall your current driver and reboot/restart your PC.Then install the new driver your just downloaded.

http://majorgeeks.com/Driver_Cleaner_Professional_d3214.html

Washington,D.C.
12-31-2005, 21:41
Latest Evga driver 81.94 8194XP2K.exe

http://www.evga.com/support/drivers/default.asp?switch=2


Latest released driver 82.12_forceware_winxp_english.exe

ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/82.12/

ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/82.12/82.12_forceware_winxp_english.exe

hogglock
01-01-2006, 01:11
Well, like a true geek, I blew off the new year to install the suggested drivers.
I was running 81.98
uninstalled and installed 82.12
uninstalled and installed 83.10
No luck, max resolution in DVI was a goofy 1360x720 which gives a vertical distortion.
Strange thing, both 82.12 and 83.10 disabled my sound.
Ah, betas.
I think I'm just gonna have to be happy with analog for now, until I can find what card will work with the Dell 2005 FPW.
I sure appreciate all your hard work everyone!

Toyman
01-01-2006, 06:36
I'm running two identical 21.3" LCD's side by side, one DVI one VGA. I can tell no difference in quality between the two.

Washington,D.C.
01-01-2006, 11:29
Check the forums here http://www.nvnews.net and info here http://downloads.guru3d.com It seems like the DVI on that card won't work with that monitor. Also you try older drivers but for that roblem I don't think it will help.Here are all on the drivers

ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/

Washington,D.C.
01-01-2006, 11:55
Here's another beta.It's for notebooks(widescreen?) but is suppose to work with all GeForce cards.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1260

Also a list of drivers with descriptions here some of the newer drivers mention fixes for LCD's such as versions from Dell

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?id=10