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royal glockster
01-06-2006, 18:03
I dont usually carry firearm. Nowadays, i realized that carrying a concealed firearm is an advantage should the unexpected scenario happens. I'm planning to acquire a good defensive pistol and my choice of caliber of course is the .45acp for obvious reasons. Now, for the pistol choice i'm torn between G30 and Colt Officer (or any 1911 officer model). Give me your valuable advice mga bro. Thanks in advance! ;Q

isuzu
01-06-2006, 18:37
Originally posted by royal glockster
I dont usually carry firearm. Nowadays, i realized that carrying a concealed firearm is an advantage should the unexpected scenario happens. I'm planning to acquire a good defensive pistol and my choice of caliber of course is the .45acp for obvious reasons. Now, for the pistol choice i'm torn between G30 and Colt Officer (or any 1911 officer model). Give me your valuable advice mga bro. Thanks in advance! ;Q

If you can't decide on what to get, buy both! ;f Seriously, you might want to try both pistols and pick the best under the following criteria (that I have always been following):

1. Is it reliable with most ammo?
2. Is the pistol concealable with my (body)size?
3. Am I comfortable with cock and locked or double action carry?
4. Which pistol do I shoot better, double action or single action?
5. Are aftermarket parts readily available in the area where I live?
6. Is weight a factor when carrying a pistol everyday for long
periods?
7. If you have an immediate family member that carry a pistol, what
caliber and brand is the pistol? Having the same equipment is ad-
vantageous to you since you could share mags and ammo.

I've tried the Colt Officer's model, and the recoil is rather stout. I prefer the Commander over the Officer's. Honestly, I haven't tried the G30 yet. Others say they're good and quite accurate.

MR_BIG
01-07-2006, 08:26
carry a glock30 with xs 24/7 big dot, very light to carry, recoil is easy to manage with standard loads and because of the sights, very fast inside 15 meters.

vega
01-07-2006, 10:53
Originally posted by isuzu
I've tried the Colt Officer's model, and the recoil is rather stout. I prefer the Commander over the Officer's. Honestly, I haven't tried the G30 yet. Others say they're good and quite accurate.
I have tried both G30 and Commander and G30 is more manageable and accurate (for me) in my experience. The down side with G30 is too thick for CCW. YMMV.

vega

vinsdr
01-07-2006, 16:05
Originally posted by MR_BIG
carry a glock30 with xs 24/7 big dot, very light to carry, recoil is easy to manage with standard loads and because of the sights, very fast inside 15 meters.

sir, pardon my ignorance, i dont know what an xs 24/7 is? is it available in the phil? how much? gunsmithing needed? thank u.
i also own a g30, and its true what they say about how accurate it is.and also its downside on how thick it is. good thing i have large hands. :)

MR_BIG
01-07-2006, 17:08
my in-laws sent me the sights, about the gunsmithing, if u can remove the stock plastic sights, you're good to go, very easy to install, allen wrench sa rear then put some loctite on the corners, the front comes with a tool. about the size of the pistol, i have no problem carrying and hiding it, im kinda......big.

vinsdr
01-08-2006, 09:13
Originally posted by MR_BIG
my in-laws sent me the sights, about the gunsmithing, if u can remove the stock plastic sights, you're good to go, very easy to install, allen wrench sa rear then put some loctite on the corners, the front comes with a tool. about the size of the pistol, i have no problem carrying and hiding it, im kinda......big.

how nice in-laws you have .:) sana ako din. ;f
wish there's a picture of your gun.
thank u very much for the info.

jlkwison
01-08-2006, 10:44
If the g30 is too thick for your taste, then try to get a hold of a g36...you might fall in love with it :]

revo
01-08-2006, 11:10
I agree with vega.

The choice is pretty much between a G30 and a Colt Commander (not a Colt Officer).

That's a hard choice (haha) since both are very desirable guns.

I know we are in a Glock forum but I would go with a Colt Commander -specially one that's been tuned by a gunsmith.

Very sweet.

isuzu
01-08-2006, 13:38
Originally posted by jlkwison
If the g30 is too thick for your taste, then try to get a hold of a g36...you might fall in love with it :]

Was Glock, by any chance, able to get rid of the bugs plagueing the G36?

vega
01-08-2006, 15:34
Originally posted by isuzu
Was Glock, by any chance, able to get rid of the bugs plagueing the G36? I wasn't aware there were problems, what kind of plagues? Also, good thing to hear they also sell G36 back in the Phil.

vega

mikey177
01-08-2006, 15:47
Originally posted by vinsdr
how nice in-laws you have .:) sana ako din. ;f
wish there's a picture of your gun.
thank u very much for the info.

This is the web site of XS Sights --> http://www.xssights.com/

Click on the link marked "Handgun Sights" to see the configurations available for different pistols.

mc_oliver
01-08-2006, 20:12
I have these carry thoughts again these days and I'm also wondering.

Personally, the G30 is out kasi it's too thick for me. The compact 1911 is very ideal due to the thinness kaso I'm not too comfy having only 8-9 rounds. Lalo na ngayon bihira nang-hoholdup na mag isa lang. And I prefer on-body carry always (well,...as much as possible.)

I'm starting to feel really good thinking about a G26 or a Taurus Mil-Pro (kung di kaya nung budget.)

;)

Chie
01-09-2006, 05:08
Originally posted by mc_oliver
I have these carry thoughts again these days and I'm also wondering.

Personally, the G30 is out kasi it's too thick for me. The compact 1911 is very ideal due to the thinness kaso I'm not too comfy having only 8-9 rounds. Lalo na ngayon bihira nang-hoholdup na mag isa lang. And I prefer on-body carry always (well,...as much as possible.)

I'm starting to feel really good thinking about a G26 or a Taurus Mil-Pro (kung di kaya nung budget.)

;)

MCO,

Is the trigger action of the Mil-Pro comparable to the glocks?

How much does it retail for?

tia

royal glockster
01-09-2006, 06:07
Thanks mg bro for your valuable inputs! I have not made-up my mind yet on what to choose. I will scout this carry thing this coming gunshow. Again, thanks for your replies.

Alpha1g23, received your PM and yes i will heed your advice. Thanks Bro!

MR_BIG
01-09-2006, 08:08
Originally posted by vinsdr
how nice in-laws you have .:) sana ako din. ;f
wish there's a picture of your gun.
thank u very much for the info.

bro, i still paid for it.;)

isuzu
01-09-2006, 17:51
Originally posted by vega
I wasn't aware there were problems, what kind of plagues? Also, good thing to hear they also sell G36 back in the Phil.

vega

Found this link: http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/problems.html

NYPD problems with G19: http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/phase3.html

vega
01-09-2006, 22:11
The G36 was mentioned once, I thought there was a major re-call like the G19 for their frame failure.

vega

Allegra
01-10-2006, 09:40
Is the g30 yung maliit na 45 na may extended mag were you make patong the pinky finger? Hirap iputok IMO

Kung mahilig ka talaga mag carry , get the Colt Lightweight Commander
Best of both , thin as a 1911 and light as a glock

isuzu
01-10-2006, 17:17
Originally posted by vega
The G36 was mentioned once, I thought there was a major re-call like the G19 for their frame failure.

vega

Yup, there might not be a lot of data about G36s because, there' not much G36s compared to G19s out there. That's why Glock is heavily advertising G36 since its introduction in the market.:)

Vault Keeper
01-10-2006, 22:08
Sir RG, since .45 ACP is your choice, i'd say go for 1911 officer.

But if you ask me, my personal choice would be my g26 (plus an extra mag for g17....:) )

But honestly, thats a HARD choice to make, parang si aida o si nora o si fe...;f

Regards

jlkwison
01-12-2006, 11:19
Originally posted by isuzu
Found this link: http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/problems.html

NYPD problems with G19: http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/phase3.html

I've read about the phase 3 prob of the g19, I haven't experienced it yet with mine...well of course, have only shot 600+ rounds to date so im keeping my fingers crossed. ;f

With regards to the g36...i've read that a certain batch of em has probs wih the trigger...

g36 prob:
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/g36-recall.html

I think they were able to fix it by replacing the trigger bar etc.

MR_BIG
01-12-2006, 16:56
it really boils down to comfortable u are with it(carrying it concealed) and how well you shoot it. dont take our word for it, shoot them both so youll have an ideal how they feel, both in recoil and in size.

Ersatz0906
01-16-2006, 23:10
I have a colt officer and a G27

I carry G27 because its much more lighter than colt officer and has 3more rounds compare to me colt...well its because its a .40 hicap and the colt is single .45

when I rapid fire my G27 most of the 9 rounds went to A section of the target while my Colt 6rounds, most of them went to outer space section...
;f

whatever you choose practice with it and get use to it so that when the time comes your ready for shooting the Bad guys butt ;a

SMBeerDealer
01-17-2006, 04:17
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/SMBeerDealer/MVC-002F.jpg

My carry piece. Para-Ord P12.45. Haven't had any misfeeds or jams with it and I'm in the alpha's most of the time. A bit bulky but no complaints. ;f

batangueno
01-17-2006, 07:42
Very nice Tom. ^c

royal glockster
01-26-2006, 07:18
Originally posted by revo
I agree with vega.

The choice is pretty much between a G30 and a Colt Commander (not a Colt Officer).

That's a hard choice (haha) since both are very desirable guns.

I know we are in a Glock forum but I would go with a Colt Commander -specially one that's been tuned by a gunsmith.

Very sweet.

Agree with you vega, though my preference now is g30 for ease and comfort when my budget permits. For now, i have my commander model being assembled by col. bayang after i bought some parts during the gunshow and previous gunshows. I just use my old government frame para makatipid. The following are my expenses for upper commander slide;

1. sam commander slide = 3,289.00 shooters
2. armscor barrel std. = 2,800.00 starfire
3. wolff recoil spring = 400.00 truweight
4. firing pin = 250.00 shooters
5. slide stop = 400.00 truweight
6. firing pin spring = 120.00 shooters
7. extractor = 247.00 shooters
8. front sight dovetail = 235.00 shooters
9. rear sight novak style 330.00 shooters
total parts = 8,063.00

gunsmithing costs (col. bayang)


1. barrel cut & crowning = 800.00
2. barrel to frame fitting 1,000.00
3. "kimber" slide engraving 700.00
4. deep blue finish 700.00
5. recoil spring cut& tuning 400.00
total labor 3,600.00

total cost 11,663.00

sori vega, armscor barrel pala not slide, typographical error. Bought also armscor guide rod for 600.00 at aquila firearms Harisson Plaza.

vega
01-26-2006, 08:08
Originally posted by royal glockster
1. sam commander slide = 3,289.00 shooters
2. armscor slide std. = 2,800.00 starfire
3. wolff recoil spring = 400.00 truweight
4. firing pin = 250.00 shooters
5. slide stop = 400.00 truweight
6. firing pin spring = 120.00 shooters
7. extractor = 247.00 shooters
8. front sight dovetail = 235.00 shooters
9. rear sight novak style 330.00 shooters
total parts = 8,063.00

gunsmithing costs (col. bayang)


1. barrel cut & crowning = 800.00
2. barrel to frame fitting 1,000.00
3. "kimber" slide engraving 700.00
4. deep blue finish 700.00
5. recoil spring cut& tuning 400.00
total labor 3,600.00

total cost 11,663.00
Magkano yung barrel and frame?
Dalawang slide ang binili mo?

vega

royal glockster
01-27-2006, 06:28
The frame im using is from my SAm elite so that i would have a government model and commander model with 1 frame lang. Told col. bayang not to alter the frame,only the slide must be adjusted to fit slide to frame.I will get it tommorrow and test fire it at MDSA Binondo. :)

vega
01-27-2006, 07:49
PICS!!!!!!!!

vega

royal glockster
01-27-2006, 07:59
Originally posted by vega
PICS!!!!!!!!

vega
much as i want to post the pics of my guns, but really don't have the technical "know-how" how to do it, LOL. Can u give me some tips how to post pics? My cpu is just celeron 700, no usb, no digicam. ;Q

vega
01-27-2006, 08:07
First, we need a digicam or if you have a celcam that will do.
You need to have a host for the pics like photobucket.com
Free naman ang registration.
I am not really sure if I can explain it well, if you do a
search maraming pointers dito sa GT. Maybe other BOGs can
chime in.

vega

Ersatz0906
01-27-2006, 19:47
step one: take pic (kung wala kang digicam, like vega said use celcam or ordinary camera)

two: upload it to your computer, if walang card reading computer mo. pa print mo na lang yung picture sa Kodak shop

three: you could go to a internet or computer shop ask to scan your picture from kodak then transfer it sa CDR or sa floppy disk then upload it to your computer use photobucket.com or you could attach it sa glocktalk thread.