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mtho
01-12-2006, 21:04
are the sps 140mm and 170mm ipsc legal?, i read somewhere that they where too long when they arrived in the US.was it corrected when it arrived here? I suppose the 140mm won't have problems in the open div,only in the standard and and modified. are their 170mm within ipsc regulations?

akula
01-12-2006, 22:57
IPSC Standard and Modified Division requires an unloaded gun with mag to fit on the "IPSC" box. 140mm would not fit. It's usually the 126mm with additional Tony Pascual +1 basepad that fits with the gun into the box. Although the Standard Div rules has been relaxed since 2004 edition rulebook, it still requires it to fit on the box. 170mm is allowed in the IPSC Open as long as there is no more base pad.

USPSA Limited Division has different equipment guidelines against that of the IPSC Standard Div. I believe it just limits the mag length at 140mm.

-j.

mtho
01-12-2006, 23:27
yeah ,I understand that they allow 170mm but I read in a thread that sps's 170mm is a bit longer than 170mm, so i'm wondering if what we have here are the same as the ones they have in the us or are they improved versions
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23808

batangueno
01-12-2006, 23:41
I measured the SPS 170mm i got from PB and it is 170mm.

Regarding your question in BE, the 140mm is legal in open since it is still less than the 170mm limit.

mtho
01-13-2006, 00:59
sir,
have you used it in sanctioned matches here? have you heard any problem with these mags?

mark

batangueno
01-13-2006, 01:01
Yes, i've used 140 and 170 without problems from ROs if that's what you mean. :)

The 170mm has a flat basepad and the 140 has a +4 basepad.

mtho
01-13-2006, 01:09
+4 san ka nakabili nun? ok ba yung functions ng mag? o kelangan pa iadjust?

batangueno
01-13-2006, 01:26
I bought the arredondo pads from jethro (the store not the shooter) last 1997. :)

Ok na yung mags out of the plastic bag. ;f No adjustments necessary.

mtho
01-13-2006, 05:14
usually ilang mag ba kelangan per stage kung open ang gamit?ilang rounds ng 38 super kasya sa 170mm and 140mm sps mag?

Eye Cutter
01-13-2006, 07:15
i still don't have a 170mm tube. i'm waiting for a good bargain to come along.

i have 4 140mm's. i can load 22 rds of .38 super in my 140mm svi and sti tubes.

so far i have not made a standing reload because i ran out of ammo in my 140's. i've used 3 mags in a 32 rd cof before. but that is rare!

how much are you selling your sti for para mags? maybe mcoliver is interested! batangueno and i might be interested also!

;N

Eye Cutter
01-13-2006, 07:17
mark: don't forget to bring the glock mount for taurus' open glock! thanks!

batangueno
01-13-2006, 08:19
Originally posted by mtho
usually ilang mag ba kelangan per stage kung open ang gamit?ilang rounds ng 38 super kasya sa 170mm and 140mm sps mag?
Short and medium course, 1 mag lang. Long course, 2 mags.

Hindi ko sinasagad mags ko, yung 170mm 25 rounds and the 140mm mags 23 rounds.

mtho
01-13-2006, 11:15
doc,
actually i'm looking to trade my "sti for para" 170mm mag for a sti 170mm mag kasi nga stop production na yung sti nito. or since the magcatch notch of the "sti for para" mags is smaller pwede rin palakihan para umubra sa sps kaya lang sayang trade nalang para kung sino naka para or armscor or peterstahl or bul or (later this year) norinco na nakaopen makinabang.
by the way I also have 3 "sti for para" 140mm mags if any one wants to trade 140mm sti mags.

mark

doc ano email mo padala ako ng pics ng glock mount sayo.

batangueno
01-13-2006, 19:15
mark, ano ba baril mo sti o para?

mtho
01-13-2006, 21:04
bat,
me P14 ako na para, dati ko pa pinaplano magbuo ng open,kaya nagiipon ako ng gamit, tapos napatingin ako sa mga pics na pinost ninyo ni doc sa BE,then nag sale si PB ng sps kaya yun sps na yung open ko.

mark

batangueno
01-14-2006, 03:14
Mwahaha, isa ka pala sa mga naging kampon ni gundog. ;f

gundog, kunin mo na yung 170mm na sti for para ni mtho, tapos ibenta mo yung 170mm sps mo kay doc.

Yung ibang 140mm sti for para kay mco naman.

Eye Cutter
01-14-2006, 04:31
psst! kapatid na batangueno: are you thinking what i'm thinking??? ;f;f;f

para ord frame for an open pistol??? hehehe!

;N

lakas ba mambuyo?

batangueno
01-14-2006, 05:20
Ikaw kasi, lahat tuloy ng baril ko gusto ko na gawin open. ;f

JuDGe
01-14-2006, 07:24
meron ako bnew sps hi-capacity mag 170mm, 29rounds, willing to trade :)