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Eagle78101
01-20-2006, 19:50
Basically, we need something that can hold stuff, be comfortable for long trips and get reasonable mileage. We love SUV's, but they are simply out of our price range. Slowly narrowing it down:

Dodge Caravan
Honda Element

are the two I have researched so far. Any other suggestions? I'm open to anything that meets our criteria, either foreign or American. We are *very* reluctant to purchase used, been burned too many times.;4

Glockdude1
01-20-2006, 20:03
This one is nice when you want to leave for work late and arrive early........

http://www.superformance.com/mkIII_bonusphotos/4.jpg

;N

Eagle78101
01-20-2006, 20:08
Glockdude, I think people who buy those kinds of cars probably don't work. ;Q

Glockdude1
01-21-2006, 09:55
Originally posted by Eagle78101
Glockdude, I think people who buy those kinds of cars probably don't work. ;Q

You are right. If I could win the looto just to afford that monster, I would not work ethier........

;N

Asha'man
01-21-2006, 11:08
They're not as much as you think. A Factory Five kit with a decent 331 or 347 or even a stock 302 in it isn't much more than $20-25K.

Brian

pesticidal
01-21-2006, 11:16
Originally posted by Asha'man
They're not as much as you think. A Factory Five kit with a decent 331 or 347 or even a stock 302 in it isn't much more than $20-25K.

Brian


http://www.classicroadsters.com/

Asha'man
01-21-2006, 11:23
www.factoryfive.com

Brian

Rob1035
01-21-2006, 12:49
back on topic, what about a wagon?

Volvo, VW, and others all have some good wagons, might meet your space needs while getting good mpg

grecco
01-21-2006, 13:02
the honda element sounds like it would meet your needs.

Glockdude1
01-21-2006, 16:35
www.dodge.com

Check out the Dodge "Caliber" coming out next year.

;N

lakota169
01-21-2006, 19:28
Great ride, 23+mpg highway, a lot of interior room, and it's got a Hemi.

Asha'man
01-22-2006, 11:02
+1 on Magnum. Those are badass.

Brian

45acp4me
01-30-2006, 20:37
Honda Element or Toyota RAV4.

Eagle78101
01-31-2006, 17:05
I had a Toyota Rav4. It was very reliable and good on gas, but I hated it. Horrible burglar system and really bad ergonomics. I'll probably get the Element. Everything else is too high priced, or doesn't get the MPG I want.

Old School
01-31-2006, 19:02
Had a 98 Dodge Caravan, will never buy another Dodge product. Bad oil seals, bad elecrical, bad pumps (fuel, water, power steering all went out), bad AC, bad window motors, bad tranny, wouldn't stay in alignment, brake pads wore out every 20k & master cylinder went out around 50k, rear view window motor went out, power door locks broke. I think the radiator was the only thing that didn't break (if you don't count the water pump).

I think that Scion offers something similar to the Honda Element. Scion is made by Toyota so you can't go wrong with it or the Honda.

spober
01-31-2006, 19:18
boooooring!hey the 05/06 mustang has a back seat!

Eagle78101
02-01-2006, 17:06
Originally posted by Old School
Had a 98 Dodge Caravan, will never buy another Dodge product. Bad oil seals, bad elecrical, bad pumps (fuel, water, power steering all went out), bad AC, bad window motors, bad tranny, wouldn't stay in alignment, brake pads wore out every 20k & master cylinder went out around 50k, rear view window motor went out, power door locks broke. I think the radiator was the only thing that didn't break (if you don't count the water pump).

I think that Scion offers something similar to the Honda Element. Scion is made by Toyota so you can't go wrong with it or the Honda.

Yep, I had heard that the Caravan has serious reliability issues. It's a shame, cause they are very family friendly.

Jack Straight
02-06-2006, 23:37
I"ve got a 97 Dodge Caravan. It has been reliable, except that I had to replace the power lock motor/controller. I think it is much bigger than the Element. Depends on how much room you need.

Maybe try a Certified Used Car from a dealer, that is only a few years old? Less money than new, but with less risk.

Victory
02-07-2006, 09:31
check out some of the wagons available from subaru. decent milege, good amout of cargo room, Reliable.

dubltap
02-09-2006, 07:13
You never said if you had kids or just need room for stuff, but how about the Chrysler PT Cruiser? I have one there is a ton of room if espically if you fold the rear seats down or remove them. 24-30 mpg. I have orver 50K on my 2003 and it has never been to the shop for anything. I have a friend who delivers mail with hers and she has 190k on it and has only had it in the shop for general mantainence.

Ridx
02-25-2006, 16:51
Somebody mentioned it, but I just got an '06 Scion Xb, and talk about room!!! All kinds of head and leg room, and the rear seats fold down in a 60/40 situation to carry all kinds of stuff. Fuel Economy? I get from 29 to 33 MPG with a 5 speed manual in mixed driving, and I've got kind of a heavy foot. All this for less than 15 Grand. Ohh, and did I mention the sexy box styling ;)

45acp4me
02-26-2006, 08:53
Ever try a Toyota Matrix or a Pontiac Vibe?

RED64CJ5
02-26-2006, 09:51
Look for a late model Mazda 3. They have a badass look, great quality, and value.

fireman jb
03-14-2006, 21:56
My wife and I just bought a Mitsubishi Outlander for her. So far it's a great little SUV. We don't have any kids but it has plenty of room for a little one. Gets 20-30mpg. Has side and front air bags. It is all wheel drive, it gets around better then my Z71 GMC. The biggest seller for me was the 5yr-60K mile bumper to bumper warrenty/ road side service and the 10yr-100K mile powertrain warranty. I was really looking for the mpg, all wheel drive or 4X4 (Alaska winters), safety and a warranty, this SUV covered everything. The dealer was great also no pushy salesmen. I went in with my game face on ready to haggle like I had to for my truck but didn't have to haggle AT ALL. All for right at $20K. Pretty good deal I THINK.

91whiskey
03-16-2006, 13:25
I think I am going to buy the new toyota fj cruiser. a fully loaded one can be had for about 25,000. The most I've ever paid for a car was 18,000 but that was almost 10 years ago. Car prices seem to have shot up. I think the fj cruiser will be adequate space for my wife and I with one kid and will probably be cramped but fine with another kid my wife has planned.
The mpg isn't in the 20's like I'd like it but that's the trade off for a solid 4x4. The cruiser has a rubber type floor for easy cleaning. It fits my needs very well. Maybe yours too?:)

vart
03-25-2006, 00:38
I love the Toyota Matrix. Lots of room, versatile cargo area, great gas mileage, and can be had with AWD for winter driving.

http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/gallery/albums/album02/Toyota_Matrix_3.jpg

http://autonet.ca/EdmontonDrive/StoryImages/Story7926-Picture8337-s.jpg

pal2511
04-16-2006, 16:29
Get the honda element. I have had one for about a month now and I am very happy with it.

Bushflyr
04-22-2006, 18:03
+1 on the Scooby. Mine's pushing 290 Hp, gets 29mpg @ 75 on the freeway, whups *** on the track, and still carries a ton of toys and gear.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b65/bushflyr/a4714b3a.jpg

Ron3
04-22-2006, 21:13
What model is that Subaru?

Bushflyr
04-22-2006, 22:08
'02 WRX Wagon. :cool:

Ron3
04-23-2006, 09:02
Is it replaced by the Outback 2.5T?

http://www.subaru.com/shop/model_consideration.jsp?model=OUTBACK

R3

widmn
04-23-2006, 09:10
I have 2 VW diesels. Both get 40 to 45mpg without even trying hard. If I drive sanely, I can get 45 to 50mpg. They are great and reliable. Get any year. I have a 2000 new beetle and a 2005 Jetta wagon.

Bushflyr
04-24-2006, 14:27
Originally posted by Ron3
Is it replaced by the Outback 2.5T?

http://www.subaru.com/shop/model_consideration.jsp?model=OUTBACK

R3

No, it's still the WRX.

http://www.subaru.com/shop/overview.jsp?model=IMPREZA&trim=WRX_SPORT_WAGON

MOBEEBO
04-24-2006, 14:46
If you would like a sedann the Nissan Altima is a great car. Mine is a V6 but the 4 cyl. gets good mileage and has decent power for pulling up hills. The trunk is huge too.

Ron3
04-24-2006, 21:22
Originally posted by Bushflyr
No, it's still the WRX.

http://www.subaru.com/shop/overview.jsp?model=IMPREZA&trim=WRX_SPORT_WAGON

I see. You must have added quite a bit of boost to add 60hp. Are the internals as strong as the Sti's?

It looks like you lowered it right?

Nice wheel choice btw!

29mpg highway is tempting too.

I built a sedan and wagon WRX at Subs web site and both can be had for under $26k.

Also, what do these things really weight?

Thanks. R3

vart
04-24-2006, 21:27
Whatever you do, don't buy a freakin' domestic!!!

The big 3 couldn't build a reliable car to save their companies (which is ironic since they are going out of business because of it).

After 3 newer, low-mileage 1/2-ton pickups from Chevy, Ford, and Dodge that all had major problems, and now a brand-new Chrysler mini van with only 19k miles on it and major tranny and electrical problems, I can safely conclude that domestics are crap.

Bushflyr
04-25-2006, 01:16
Originally posted by Ron3
I see. You must have added quite a bit of boost to add 60hp. Are the internals as strong as the Sti's?

It looks like you lowered it right?

Nice wheel choice btw!

29mpg highway is tempting too.

I built a sedan and wagon WRX at Subs web site and both can be had for under $26k.

Also, what do these things really weight?

Thanks. R3

It really doesn't take all that much. The stock turbo with an exhaust and a tune is good for 290 or so. This is a 2.0l while the STi is a 2.5l with much stronger internals. The generally accepted WRX reliability limit is about 300 WHP or about 350 at the crank. The lag is pretty brutal at that level though. On the STi guys are going all the way to 600+. It's only lowered an inch or so, purely for track manners, the flaps and wheels just make it look lower. Not too sure on the actual weight, probably close to whatever the factory quotes. You can currently get a really nice bugeye for around $10k. A hell of a deal if you can find one that hasn't been beat. The 5-speed tranny is pretty fragile though, watch for any funny noises and check the oil before you commit to a used one.

Ron3
04-25-2006, 20:01
I've noticed the 2006 WRX's are 2.5 liters now. Reviews said the extra low rpm torque makes up for the lag and power is much more linear now. Some say it took away a little character but it sounds better to me.

Sounds like a real nice, fun, usefull, quality car for about $26000.

I'm thinking about one of these for the wife. She loved the dark blue color, but unfortunatly it's only available on the more mundane non-WRX verion.

She likes the steel grey or whatever it's called. I'd go for the WC blue myself.

Oh, this car would get an open track day and maybe an autocross or two each year. How are the brakes?

Ron3

Bushflyr
04-25-2006, 21:06
Originally posted by Ron3
Oh, this car would get an open track day and maybe an autocross or two each year. How are the brakes?

Ron3

Fine. Steel lines, EBC Redstuff ceramics, and good fluid and you'll be fine. I finally started to fade them after 45 minutes at PR. Turn 1 at 135 hauling down to 65ish for turn 2 finally got the best of them. It took 15 or 20 laps though with all the intermediate turns not helping things. You can go with full race pads and you'll never fade them but then you start to cook bearings. After that it's vented BBK.

Ron3
04-25-2006, 21:40
Not bad at all then.

We'll decide something in the next few months.

Thanks!

R3

benji
04-26-2006, 18:42
test drive the element. i have one and absolutely love it. everybody that's ever been in it loves the interior room and functionality, even if they hate the exterior look. my sister has a pontiac vibe, basically the same as a toyota matrix, and it is pretty cool too. i looked at the subaru wrx wagons, but they feel tiny inside. i've had a pathfinder, frontier, exploder sport trac, and the element is the most useful and best vehicle of them all.

widmn
04-26-2006, 19:23
I guess nobody heard me!!! I GET 45 MPG!!!!
Buy a VW diesel and don't look back. They make more diesels than anyone in the world are totally reliable and are easy to work on.

DSMonsta
04-26-2006, 23:47
Easy to work on doesn't sound like any VW I've ever worked on.

Look at a Toyota Matrix or better yet a Pontiac Vibe. They're the same car but the Pontiac should be at least a grand cheaper out the door for similar options.

benji
04-28-2006, 19:13
i've always heard bad things about vw's. my wife has an '03 and i knock on wood alot because it's been great so far. my sister has a vibe and they love it. i love the element. i want to drive the new honda fit just for fun, it looks awesome. drive the element. play with the seats. imagine all the crap you can put in there. sit in the back seats and be amazed by the legroom. take 3 friends with you on your test drive.






























get the element