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bambihunter
01-24-2006, 19:20
I was watching NCIS with my wife tonight and they mentioned the .40 S&W (and referred to it as "short and weak" then went on to talk about the 10mm auto! SWEET! ;f :cool:

edm1
01-24-2006, 19:39
What is NCIS?

G20man32904
01-24-2006, 19:53
NICE!!!!!
;I

bambihunter
01-24-2006, 20:13
It's a CSI type show on CBS (I think it's based on the real-life NCIS; which is "National Criminal Intelligence Service")... It's a pretty good show (and I'm not really into those type of shows).

nickE10mm
01-24-2006, 20:27
What??? Man, why do I have to miss stuff like that? Good catch... I'm sure it was at LEAST mildly satisfying. :cool:

dave27
01-24-2006, 20:47
I like the goth chick.....

bambihunter
01-24-2006, 23:58
I have the show saved on my Media Center PC so I might see if I can take that show and cut out that part to save. Even though I am a PC tech by profession, I haven't done that before, so no promises...

srfl
01-25-2006, 02:22
Originally posted by bambihunter
It's a CSI type show on CBS (I think it's based on the real-life NCIS; which is "National Criminal Intelligence Service")... It's a pretty good show (and I'm not really into those type of shows).

If it's the show with Mark Harmon, it's the Naval Criminal Investigative Service. (http://www.ncis.navy.mil/)

I'm with dave27....I love Pauley Perrette, who plays the goth chick! ;3

RussP
01-25-2006, 07:00
That was interesting...

:cool:

Rigormootis
01-25-2006, 07:11
Originally posted by srfl
If it's the show with Mark Harmon, it's the Naval Criminal Investigative Service. (http://www.ncis.navy.mil/)



+1 ;c

:cool:



Also, I think (though, I don't watch the show - just heard) that the main guy on "The Shield" carries a S&W 10mm...I think a 1006.

RussP
01-25-2006, 07:11
Originally posted by edm1
What is NCIS? http://www.ncis.navy.mil/index.cfm

'NCIS' Actress Pauley Perrette Visits the Real NCIS

Navy NewsStand

By Marla Marcelo, NCIS Public Affairs

October 24, 2005

WASHINGTON -- TV met reality Sept. 30 when actress Pauley Perrette from "NCIS," CBS' hit TV series, visited the real Naval Criminal Investigative Service's (NCIS) headquarters in Washington.

The "NCIS" show portrays the experiences of Special Agent Leroy Jethro Gibbs, played by actor Mark Harmon, and his team of agents as they attempt to solve crimes involving members of the U.S. Navy and Marines and their families.

The real NCIS enjoys a healthy relationship with the TV show. NCIS shares story lines with the show's writers and helps out with accuracy and technical information. Leon Carroll, a retired 23-year veteran NCIS special agent, consults as a technical advisor for the show.

"Like the real NCIS, there are no two days that are ever alike," said Carroll about his experiences on the set. "I discuss the set-up of crime scenes, interrogations and search and seizure processes with the set director...I work with the actors on how NCIS agents say and do things, especially the many acronyms that are used in the military. I will normally get a couple of calls a day from the writers or researchers about NCIS policy to assist them when writing their scripts."

Perrette, who plays forensics specialist Abby Scuito, said that the show could not be done without NCIS' input.

A camera crew from "Entertainment Tonight," along with representatives from the Department of Defense media and the Naval Media Center, escorted Perrette as she toured NCIS headquarters. One of her stops was the armory where NCIS keeps its gear and weapons. There, Equipment Specialist Darlene Proctor, who is one of only two female armorers in federal law enforcement today, helped Perrette experience the weight of wearing a vest with ceramic plates, a Kevlar helmet, a thigh holster, and a Colt M-16A2 automatic rifle - items routinely worn and used by real NCIS agents currently deployed in war zones like Iraq and Afghanistan.

During her visit, Perrette also toured the Multiple Threat Alert Center (MTAC) and spoke with NCIS Director David Brant.

"The show represents unprecedented publicity for our agency. NCIS is now a household name to millions of Americans," said Brant, who visited the "NCIS" set in 2003.

Perrette, who studied for a master's degree in criminology, was excited to see Dawn Sorenson, the NCIS Regional Forensic Lab director and real-life counterpart to Perrette's character, Abby.

Sorenson told her, "You make us all look good, so we're grateful."

The TV show and the real NCIS have a great deal of admiration for each other. When NCIS employees praised the show, Perrette replied, "We're just trying to do you guys proud."

Mark Harmon also expressed his respect for NCIS when he said on "Entertainment Tonight" preceding a recent "NCIS" show, "These guys are at the forefront. They're at the tip of the spear...It's a war front, and there's an agency out there trying to make a difference and doing a very, very difficult job worldwide."

nickE10mm
01-25-2006, 07:38
Originally posted by bambihunter
I have the show saved on my Media Center PC so I might see if I can take that show and cut out that part to save. Even though I am a PC tech by profession, I haven't done that before, so no promises...

I am also an IT analyst by profession. If you need someone else to assist, let me know. I'd be interested to see that particular segment of the show.

srfl
01-25-2006, 15:39
Originally posted by Rigormootis
(SNIP) (though, I don't watch the show - just heard) that the main guy on "The Shield" carries a S&W 10mm...I think a 1006.

I thought I read on some thread on some gun forum (THR? TFL?) that Vic Mackey (Michael Chiklis' character on "The Shield") carried a S&W 4506 since LA cops carried and/or where authorized that gun once upon a time.

Rigormootis
01-25-2006, 20:01
^ That would explain the resemblance.
I'll still pretend it's a 1006. ;)

bambihunter
01-25-2006, 21:22
Originally posted by nickE10mm
I am also an IT analyst by profession. If you need someone else to assist, let me know. I'd be interested to see that particular segment of the show.

I've got some new video editing software to try out. I also want to transfer my old home VHS video over to DVD sometime. As well as possibly backing up a few of my expensive store-bought DVD's

Any suggestions on software to do any or all the above? (look, I just hijacked my own thread!) ;f ;a

nickE10mm
01-26-2006, 09:26
:) What software did you get? I'm not sure what the best software to use would be since honestly, I've never done what you're describing.

I'll ask a buddy of mine and try to find out what his pick for software for vid editing would be.

Rigormootis
01-26-2006, 11:43
I've used VideoWave (5.0 I believe) for this before and it worked well. Remember though, the lifespan of burned (not original pressed) optical discs (CD-R/RWs and DVD-R/+R/RWs) is supposedly only 2-5 years or so...maybe 7 if you're lucky (say the paranoid - like me).

Ten Pal
01-26-2006, 14:35
Glad to hear that! I never watch NCIS on tv - yep, even in Italy - 'cause it didn't catch me so much...

bambihunter
01-26-2006, 21:53
Originally posted by Rigormootis
I've used VideoWave (5.0 I believe) for this before and it worked well. Remember though, the lifespan of burned (not original pressed) optical discs (CD-R/RWs and DVD-R/+R/RWs) is 2-5 years or so...maybe 7 if you're lucky.

That's news to me. I've had CD's that are over a decade old and still function flawlessly. However, I haven't had my DVD burner but for maybe 9-12 months so I don't know their track record.


The software I have is Roxio Video Pack, and Microsoft Digital Image Suite 2006 Plus Pinnacle Studio 10.0 Microsoft Digital Image Suite (called "Super Pack").

I haven't used any of these yet. I have done picture editing for ages, but never tried to make any kind of video editing or burning.

Bg357
01-27-2006, 02:01
Originally posted by bambihunter
That's news to me. I've had CD's that are over a decade old and still function flawlessly. However, I haven't had my DVD burner but for maybe 9-12 months so I don't know their track record.


Yeah, I wouldn't put too much stock in those stories. I've read a few articles regarding "DVD rot" but there isn't much concrete evidence of any such thing. There is some evidence of discs warping if not stored properly, which can make them unusable.

Photocop
01-27-2006, 02:08
Gotta love when TV scripts contain esoteric comments understood only by maniacs like us!!! I'm amazed that they made the "short and weak" comment. Most TV shows are always trying to impress people with the mystical powers of the popular cartridges like 9mm and 40 S&W (short & weak). :)

nickE10mm
01-27-2006, 07:46
Originally posted by bambihunter
...I've had CD's that are over a decade old and still function flawlessly.

+1, but, in my experience, they must be scratch free or it seems they deteriorate quicker.

Rigormootis
01-27-2006, 08:27
I agree that I haven't seen much actual evidence of this ("CD rot")either , but as I understand it, the problem supposedly lies in the thermographic ink (on the disc) that the laser writes the info on (much like an old record) - which is different than a "pressed CD". This ink is thought to be less stable than previously expected - creating skips in music CDS, or bigger problems in data discs. I have little personal experience with it, but I had to archive lot of video data a while back for one of my lab projects (many hunderds of hours) and I have since backed up my DVD-Rs onto magnetic tape drives...just in case. In my case, since I can't afford to be wrong...I opt for moderate paranoia. ;)

Bg357
01-27-2006, 13:06
I've looked into this a little more this AM and found some interesting info that sheds some light on the subject.

"There are three basic formulations of dye used in CD-Rs:

Cyanine dyes were the earliest ones developed, and their formulation is patented by Taiyo Yuden. Cyanine dyes are mostly green or light blue in color, and are chemically unstable. This makes cyanine discs unsuitable for archival use; they can fade and become unreadable in a few years. Many manufacturers use proprietary chemical additives to make more stable cyanine discs.

Azo dye CD-Rs are dark blue in color, and their formulation is patented by Mitsubishi Chemicals. Unlike cyanine, azo dyes are chemically stable, and typically rated with a lifetime of decades.

Phthalocyanine dye CD-Rs are usually silver, gold or light green. The patents on pthalocyanine CD-Rs are held by Mitsui and Ciba Specialty Chemicals. These are also chemically stable, and often given a rated lifetime of hundreds of years.

Unfortunately, many manufacturers add additional coloring to disguise their cyanine CD-Rs, so you cannot determine the formulation of a disc based purely on its color. Similarly, a gold reflective layer does not guarantee use of phthalocyanine dye." So take this for what it's worth. ;P

bambihunter
01-27-2006, 19:25
Originally posted by Photocop
Gotta love when TV scripts contain esoteric comments understood only by maniacs like us!!! I'm amazed that they made the "short and weak" comment. Most TV shows are always trying to impress people with the mystical powers of the popular cartridges like 9mm and 40 S&W (short & weak). :)

I have to correct myself, I had to watch that part again and she actually said "short and wimpy". SAME THING! ;a

Yep, I've looked all my life for those guns they use in the old westerns. They shoot all day without reloading any of the 6 chambers in the cylinder, and when they hit something they throw the person back 5 feet. *sarcasm applied, especially after a recent Mythbuster's episode*.

If/when I can get it figured out on how to easily cut video, and convert it to a usable form, I'll post it here.;f

Rigormootis
01-28-2006, 21:16
Sorry about continuing the CD hijacking, here's another recent article FWIW:

Burned CDs Have a Short Life Span?

Optical discs may not be your best bet for storing digital media long term, expert says.

John Blau, IDG News Service
Tuesday, January 10, 2006

Opinions vary on how to preserve data on digital storage media, such as optical CDs and DVDs. Kurt Gerecke, a physicist and storage expert at IBM Deutschland, has his own view: If you want to avoid having to burn new CDs every few years, use magnetic tapes to store all your pictures, videos and songs for a lifetime.

"Unlike pressed original CDs, burned CDs have a relatively short life span of between two to five years, depending on the quality of the CD," Gerecke says. "There are a few things you can do to extend the life of a burned CD, like keeping the disc in a cool, dark space, but not a whole lot more."

The problem is material degradation. Optical discs commonly used for burning, such as CD-R and CD-RW, have a recording surface consisting of a layer of dye that can be modified by heat to store data. The degradation process can result in the data "shifting" on the surface and thus becoming unreadable to the laser beam.

"Many of the cheap burnable CDs available at discount stores have a life span of around two years," Gerecke says. "Some of the better-quality discs offer a longer life span, of a maximum of five years."

Distinguishing high-quality burnable CDs from low-quality discs is difficult, he says, because few vendors use life span as a selling point.

similar Limitations
Hard-drive disks also have their limitations, according to Gerecke. The problem with hard drives, he says, is not so much the disk itself as it is the disk bearing, which has a positioning function similar to a ball bearing. "If the hard drive uses an inexpensive disk bearing, that bearing will wear out faster than a more expensive one," he says. His recommendation: a hard-drive disk with 7200 revolutions per minute.

To overcome the preservation limitations of burnable CDs, Gerecke suggests using magnetic tapes, which, he claims, can have a life span of 30 years to 100 years, depending on their quality. "Even if magnetic tapes are also subject to degradation, they're still the superior storage media," he says.

But he's quick to point out that no storage medium lasts forever and, consequently, consumers and business alike need to have a migration plan to new storage technologies.

"Companies, in particular, need to be constantly looking at new storage technologies and have an archiving strategy that allows them to automatically migrate to new technologies," he says. "Otherwise, they're going to wind up in a dead-end. And for those sitting on terabytes of crucial data, that could be a colossal problem."


YMMV.

SO, how about 10mm on TV???

;)

glocktoys
01-29-2006, 23:49
ok if you go back in time to miami vice crocket carried a 10mm for a while. and in the movie aliens the space marines had 10mm light armor piercingt rifles (135gr at 1500fps is light armor piercing). any others??

my 2cents

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