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noway
01-25-2006, 11:59
I was speaking to somebody about some wood for smoking and BBQing and was given an idea of doing a pullpork 101 kinda like a photo exhibit. Will here's my photo 101 lesson for smoking a pork shoulder for some pull pork.

1st you have to select your cut of pork. Most people select a whole shoulder or a smaller cut know as the picnic of boston butt. These are the upper or lower parts of the shoulder and easier todo if you are a 1st timer or wants a quicker cut to cook. I would suggest the smaller cuts do it is easy to cook and make sure you get a shoulder or picnic/butt that fits your smoker. If you have a sml town butcher , asked them for a select cut. You can also use the pork sirloin for this but it's a drier meat and I would not suggest you try this for the 1st time but wait till you get some experience behind the grill & smoke ;)

Here's my whole picnic shoulder from my local store. I think the price was $1.59 per/lb.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/kenfelix/pork/pullpork01.jpg

It's critical that you select a good cut. Look for one with some fat trimming on the side and nicely trimmed. You don't want a cut with no fat. The internal fat ( called marbling ) is helpfull in moisturizing the meat as it slow cooks. It will dissolve and breakdown with the low smoking temps and drip away when on the smoker grates


Once you get the meat selected, coat the shoulder with mustard. This helps in holding the dry rubs.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/kenfelix/pork/pullpork02.jpg

seasonings;

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/kenfelix/pork/pullpork03.jpg

Then prepare your dryrubs and/or use a store bought. My seasoning are hand blended by myself consisting of various peppers chilli powder, sugar and on this shoulder I 'm trying cinnamon out on it. I have other stuff include but that's my secret ;)

Once you get the pork coated. let it sit in the bottom part of the refrig for at least 24-48hours wrapped up. The meat with absorb the rub and drain off some juice buts that cool and desireable.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/kenfelix/pork/pullpork04.jpg

here we go all wrapped up;

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/kenfelix/pork/pullpork05.jpg

next page will be the fun part, the cooking it ;)

noway
01-25-2006, 12:22
I like cooking with pecan and apple woods for the most part. But today I'm using 50/50 of cherry and maple with some sml bits of hickory. You will have to experiment on the wood that you like to use. The wood is where alot of the flavor comes from.

Here's a bucket of wood chunks.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/kenfelix/pork/buxketofwood.jpg

Before you start the fire get the meat out of the refrig and let it comes up to room temp. No need in putting a cold piece of meat on the smoker. It can create a creosote condition that will turn a nice cut of meat into a bitter tasting chunk or meat that even a dog would not eat.

Start you fire and let it burnd down to a bed of coals. Place your meat on the smoker and close it up. I try to keep the meat center with the fat trim upwards. Also keep the fire hot and adjust for the smoke w/ the air vents. Good smokers have good airflow and controls. I'm using a cheap so-so brinkman.

After the meats gets to a 130-140 deg internal temp, I like to wrap my cut up. This does 2 things;

1> reduces how much smoke get on the meat

2>holds the juices in

This cut has been on the smoker for 2.25 hours and is just getting started.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/kenfelix/pork/pullpork06.jpg

You will need thermometer to get accurate internal temps. Stick the pointed thing in off the bone and about halfway thru and within seconds to 1min the temp should stablize. The coldest part of the pork would be the inside. So a general rule of thumbs is to cook pork to a internal temp of 160-180degs. Trichinosis is a serious problem in ALL animals that eat uncooked /raw meats. Hogs,coons,bear and even humans are candidates of this. Deer/Elk/Moose/bison/cow/etc...are not, they eat grass and aren't consumers of meat or at least I hope not ;)

My 4H training shows that trichinosis can be killed at temps of 140degs but the CDC reccommends 160-170degs for an additional safety blanket and to CYA themselves.

Also note that if you do the 20-5 or 5-20 rule and freeze the meat for 20days at 5deg -neg or 5days at 20 deg -neg, you will also kill any possible residual trichinosis parasites.

We are almost done;

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/kenfelix/pork/pullpork07.jpg

Tomorrow I will finish this off with actually pulling the pork. It will sit wrapped up for now. Stay tuned in Pull Pork 101 ;)

noway
01-25-2006, 15:00
Okay my dentist appointment got cancel. So here's the wrap up.


The final outcome is a pork shoulder cook to a internal temp of 180degs;

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/kenfelix/pork/pullpork08.jpg

I normally add salt, onions and cilantro and serve with rice or potatoe but here I cooked up some natural organic bacon and crumble it and added onions.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/kenfelix/pork/pullpork09.jpg

bon appetit ;)

major
01-25-2006, 21:41
Thanks for taking the time to do this!

I had wondered about doing this and had SO many questions, all of which you have answered. Thanks again.

noway
01-25-2006, 22:08
No problem.

I do want to correct something I said earlier that I just notice, the picnic cut is actually the bottom portion of the shoulder while the boston butt or just plain butt is the top. Alot of people perfer the butt over the picnic and "say it has more flavor" but I can't tell either which way. I do know the upper parts of the shoulder has more fat, so you might have to trim more away in your initial prep and the butt cut per/lb is slightly more in most stores that I shop at. You also get more juices run off when doing the butt vrs picnic. A whole shoulder is good also but can be quite big unless you find local butcher or a smallish hog shoulder. This sml picnic cut will provide about 5 big adults servings ;) A whole shoulder is alot of meat. I've cooked 15lbs shoulders and they took about 5-7 hours and imho you MUST use a thermo meter to know if they are done. It hard to eyeball it ( just my 2ct opinion here )

One more thing when you pull you shoulder after cooking, the meat will be hot. Wear gloves (plastic) or wait for the meat to cool down and this can take some time so don't be in a rush. Letting the meat sit is a good wait to get it cool down plus some the jucie to run and the flavor to lock in. Tomorrow this pork will be even more tasty ;)

Also whatever you do, don't remove the shoulder bone and try to avoid buying a "boneless" shoulder cut. It will cost you more in $$.$$ and I personaly think the bone hold in some heat. When reading your thermo, avoid reading the temp of the bone but somewhere else in the thickest spot and halfway thru.

The wood use does make a big difference in how much smokeis absorbed & the taste. Most woods outside of mesquite are okay for pork. In this order light to heavy on smoke is what I've experience;

pecan
maple
apple
cherry
oak
hickory
walnut

My picnic in this example has a nice mellow taste due to the wood with a hint of cinnamon and pepper in my other seasonsing that I blended for my dry rub. I do wish I added some salt and that was the only thing lacking in my pork.

So experiement, You can also use regular or lump charcoal and add some wood to the fire during the initial cook off. The meat will only absorb so much smoke and you should have a smoke ring ( coloring change ) in the outer portions of the pork. Mainly a reddish to pinkish color depending on wood, amount of time exposed and the heat of the fire. Try to keep the smoker going at no lower than 200 and no higher than 250degs for a good easy cook. Don't over do it or rush the proccess, this is "sloooow" smoke pork and called slow for a reason.

bon appetit ;c

Str8shootr
01-26-2006, 13:55
^6

PDogSniper
01-28-2006, 05:07
Thanks, someone should put this in for a sticky...;c

MrsKitty
01-28-2006, 09:59
Originally posted by PDogSniper
Thanks, someone should put this in for a sticky...;c

Done!

BL33D 4 M3
01-28-2006, 10:20
That looks friggin awesome! Sticky it!

noway
01-28-2006, 21:45
My ex-girlfirend hosted a enagement party for a new couple that will be married this June and I had the oppurtunity of doing the dinner latin style with pulled pork. I cooked 3 sml shoulder to feed 12 people for this small gathering.

Here's pulled pork in a light Habanero & Arbol salsa with fried boniato. Yes pull pork can be western, southern or latin style ;)

noway
01-28-2006, 21:46
oops ..... the picture

Glockdude1
01-29-2006, 04:28
Just reading your post and looking at the pics mad me hungry!!!

;N

Heckler&Koch
02-05-2006, 03:24
Both pulled pork look great but ur Latin style looks so deliciouso

Cross-X
02-05-2006, 03:39
Great post!

You might want to try an experiment: keep the shoulder on the smoker a bit longer, until it reaches 195 degrees internally.

When it has reached temperature, take it off the fire and wrap it in aluminum foil, then wrap it in a beach towel and stick it in a pre-heated ice chest for an hour or two.



Cooking to 195 degrees does a better job at breaking down the stringy, hard to chew connective tissue, and the ice chest trick aids tenderness.

Darius

Glockdude1
02-05-2006, 03:56
Originally posted by darbabi
When it has reached temperature, take it off the fire and wrap it in aluminum foil, then wrap it in a beach towel and stick it in a pre-heated ice chest for an hour or two.
Darius

How do you "pre heat" a ice chest?

;N

Cross-X
02-05-2006, 05:11
Originally posted by Glockdude1
How do you "pre heat" a ice chest?

;N



Simple. Before you use if for the the pork shoulder, fill it with warm to hot water, let the water sit a bit, then dump it out before you put the smoked meat in.

Pre-heating conserves the heat in the bbq.

This technique works best with a plastic cooler like an Igloo Playmate. There is no need to preheat a styrofoam cooler. :)

noway
02-05-2006, 21:09
{Cooking to 195 degrees does a better job at breaking down the stringy, hard to chew connective tissue, and the ice chest trick aids tenderness.
}

The shoulder I cook can be broken apart with bare hands no fork no knife after it reaches a 180deg w/ " no problems ".

Cross-X
02-06-2006, 03:21
Originally posted by noway
{Cooking to 195 degrees does a better job at breaking down the stringy, hard to chew connective tissue, and the ice chest trick aids tenderness.
}

The shoulder I cook can be broken aprat with bear hands no fork no knife after it reaches a 180deg w/ " no problems ".



I guess true pork shoulder pullability depends on the pig, and the bear!

noway
02-06-2006, 08:34
It actually goes back to my 1st rule of cooking a shoulder ( picnic/butt or whole ) You have to select the right one ;) Once you find a good store or shop that have that shoulder cut, stick with them.


If you get a shoulder off a wild hog vrs a domestic one it wouldn't be as easy to cook nor a shoulder with no inter-connecting fatty tissue or no to little marbling. No need to cook it to 195degs unless you want to. Slow and low heat over a long time will break down anything.
;)

rhikdavis
02-13-2006, 16:02
That does it, I'm inviting myself to dinner.

oct_97
02-24-2006, 16:14
Here is a great sauce to go with pulled pork. I inject it before smoking and then sprinkle it on the pork when pulling, along with a little more of the rub. This is not my recipe but comes from Smokin Okie, a Mod on the Cookshack BBQ forum.

4 cups apple juice
1/2 cup Worcestershire sauce
4 tablespoons cider vinegar
2 tablespoon dry mustard
4 tablespoon brown sugar
3 bay leaf
6 cloves of garlic
2 teaspoon ground ginger
1 teaspoon cayenne (I sometimes use Hungarian Paprika)
1/2 teaspoon ground cloves (the secret ingredient)
Heat all of the ingredients in a nonreactive pan (the acid in the vinegar will react with some pans be careful) Bring it to a boil, reduce and simmer for 15 min.

Enjoy,
John

gbaker
03-19-2006, 18:21
Originally posted by oct_97
Here is a great sauce to go with pulled pork. I inject it before smoking and then sprinkle it on the pork when pulling, along with a little more of the rub. This is not my recipe but comes from Smokin Okie, a Mod on the Cookshack BBQ forum.

4 cups apple juice
1/2 cup Worcestershire sauce
4 tablespoons cider vinegar
2 tablespoon dry mustard
4 tablespoon brown sugar
3 bay leaf
6 cloves of garlic
2 teaspoon ground ginger
1 teaspoon cayenne (I sometimes use Hungarian Paprika)
1/2 teaspoon ground cloves (the secret ingredient)
Heat all of the ingredients in a nonreactive pan (the acid in the vinegar will react with some pans be careful) Bring it to a boil, reduce and simmer for 15 min.

Enjoy,
John

FWIW boston butt is easy to smoke once you know the trick. Basically cook it for a long time at 220F to 250F. I cooked two 6 lb butts for 14 hours. Personally I donít think it matters what rub is used. On one I used a rub from Steve Racineís (sp) book and on the other a spice in the wife pantry called Joeís Stuff, basically to try to get rid of it. Joeís stuff is actually pretty good but it came in too large a container. Anyway afterwards I couldnít tell which was which, nor could tell the difference in the crust from one to the other. But donít get me wrong the outer crust was great on both.

Basically if you cook it long and on low heat you could throw it into the smoker (with wood of course) with NO seasoning and it would still be a great eat.

Having said that your injection method looks interesting, Iíll have to give it a shot.

Thanks

mouser
03-19-2006, 19:27
I just talked it over with my wife, and she says it's ok...
noway, will you marry me?^7 ^7

HalfMoon
04-10-2006, 12:07
Good post noway, you made me think about doing one this week.

Here's a couple pics of a 6.5 pound Pork Shoulder/Boston Butt I did in July of 2004 on my Weber Smokey Mountain with a BBQ Guru, pulled it off at 190 this time, I don't foil it because we like the bark. I usually go anywhere from 180-195 cooking at 220 degrees the whole time this one took about 16 hours if I remember right.

http://picturesbytony.com/bbq/PorkButt/images/03-RubbedButt.jpg

http://picturesbytony.com/bbq/PorkButt/images/04-Done.jpg

http://picturesbytony.com/bbq/PorkButt/images/06-Pulled.jpg

http://picturesbytony.com/bbq/PorkButt/images/07-Mmmmm.jpg

Gotta love that pork!

ChuckUles
04-10-2006, 19:07
beautiful pictures:drool: :cheers:

Glockdude1
04-10-2006, 19:11
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

:cool:

gbaker
04-10-2006, 20:02
Originally posted by HalfMoon
Good post noway, you made me think about doing one this week.

Here's a couple pics of a 6.5 pound Pork Shoulder/Boston Butt I did in July of 2004 on my Weber Smokey Mountain with a BBQ Guru, pulled it off at 190 this time, I don't foil it because we like the bark. I usually go anywhere from 180-195 cooking at 220 degrees the whole time this one took about 16 hours if I remember right.

Gotta love that pork!

Yeah that is a long night or early morning. I did 14 hours at that size then an hour at 300 F in the oven to get to 190 F. Not getting anymore smoke into the meat by that time anyway.

You can't beat the Weber Bullet. Is that a Maverick remote temp probe your using? If so what distance does it transmitt for you? Bought one and just never used it.

HalfMoon
04-10-2006, 20:12
Actually, that's not a Maverick, but I have one. That is the probes for the BBQ Guru Controller.

The Maverick works up to about 30 feet through a sliding glass door for me, and that's about it.

Cheers.

gbaker
04-11-2006, 05:11
Originally posted by HalfMoon
Actually, that's not a Maverick, but I have one. That is the probes for the BBQ Guru Controller.

The Maverick works up to about 30 feet through a sliding glass door for me, and that's about it.

Cheers.

Now WAIT one dang minute here!!!!!!!!!!! You cheated. You sir are a cheat. AIR FLOW CONTOL!!! That means no long nights or early mornings. Anybody! Who can I report this transgression to?

Now I want one.

Glockdude1
04-11-2006, 08:22
Originally posted by gbaker
Now WAIT one dang minute here!!!!!!!!!!! You cheated. You sir are a cheat. AIR FLOW CONTOL!!! That means no long nights or early mornings. Anybody! Who can I report this transgression to?

Now I want one.

You want a Air Flow Control, or a nice big BBQ Pork sandwich????

:cool:

HalfMoon
04-11-2006, 10:57
Originally posted by gbaker
Now WAIT one dang minute here!!!!!!!!!!! You cheated. You sir are a cheat. AIR FLOW CONTOL!!! That means no long nights or early mornings. Anybody! Who can I report this transgression to?

Now I want one.

Sorry g... The wife wasn't happy with the temp alarms going off all night, I had no choice. ;)

The Guru made a world of difference, one full load of Charcoal will run all through the night and continue to keep the WSM at 220 degrees for almost 24 hours, when it isn't raining or getting down below 50 degrees at night.

Plus, I get to sleep through the night w/o worrying about temp spikes, or the fire dying out.

Cheers.

noway
04-12-2006, 13:03
halfmoon nice job ;)

I almost wanted to eat my screen. Down here that would be a top notch poor-boy ;)

noway
05-19-2007, 09:09
more pulled pork with steamed carrots and chopped onions. dry-rub with a mixture of roberston seasoning along with cracked black pepper and honey.

Glockdude1
05-19-2007, 13:22
noway,

Every time I see you make a post, I get hungry!!!!!

:eat:

Cousin
10-26-2007, 09:06
One picture is worth a thousand words! Terrific job and informative. Can't wait to try this out. Thanks for taking the time and energy to make the tutorial, Noway. :thumbsup:

Also, very nice pix there, Halfmoon. Makes a person instantly hungry.

G21novice
01-02-2008, 12:20
Noway, looks mighty good sir.

I just did my first pork butt on my Big Green Egg. I used a rub consisting of chili powder, cracked peppercorn, cayenne pepper among other ingredients. I did a 9 and 1/2 lb butt at about 230 degrees dome temp. I also used a couple handfulls of the Jack Daniels smoking chips. It was on the egg for about 27 hours straight (without having to refuel). I pulled it at 190 degrees.

I have decided that a Guru is probably in my future as well, as I am paranoid and was up every hour, on the hour.

Garrett Smith
01-02-2008, 16:55
What is natural organic bacon ? And where can I find it?

noway
01-12-2008, 09:11
speciality stores that are green organic certified.

Garrett Smith
01-12-2008, 10:11
Noway it's the title that throws me. Pigs are natural and I suppose organic. So is calling pig meat natural and organic an intentional marketing redundancy?