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MrMurphy
02-12-2006, 12:33
Calling all current/former Air Police, Security Police, Security Forces people.



If you've ever chased bunnies, watched the birds, struck a HAS/PAS/silo or anything else........ check in.

Buzzsaw
02-12-2006, 14:39
MrMurphy I enlisted in the Air Force in '95 as a Law Enforcement specialist. About midway of my enlistment Law Enforcement and Security merged into one career field (3pox1). I did 4 years active duty and was stationed at RAF Molesworth UK and Minot AFB. At Minot I got on a Mobility unit and was TDY most of the time. I did a mixture of LE and Security.

Joey
02-12-2006, 15:54
SAC trained Security "puke" here :cool: :cool:

Offutt-Kadena-Minot-F.E. Warren and then retirement after 20 years as a SP/SF troop.

ScaryWoody
02-12-2006, 17:38
I'm the Proud Father of my son who is currently serving the USAF in Keflavik, Iceland. He is a member of the 85th SFS, keeping Iceland safe from Viking attacks. So far so good.

Thank you to all for your service, we are proud of all of you.

isp2605
02-12-2006, 19:31
2 yrs in LE (1976-1978).
5.5 yrs as SP (1982-1987).
Commissioned in 1987 and got out of the cops. Was Disaster Preparedness chief (changed name to Air Base Operability - your friendly gas mask folks) until 1994 when I went to CE to work RRR. Did 3 deployments to NATO on the war games as an inspector. Fun time. Then went back into the cops in 1996 as the commander. Retired in 2000.
Most ANG, some AD. In 1986 was TDY to Wildenrath, Germany with the RAF Police and Regiment. Wild time. Great bunch the Brits. Just don't try partying with them. Also did AD tours at Hickam and Hurlburt.
I was in TAC/ACC the entire time.

AFshooter
02-12-2006, 21:43
I'm not SF but I think the guys that fly on my jet E-4B look S-H.
They wear green flight suits with green tactical vests. Three M4 30 rounders, two M9 mags and an M9 on the chest, carrying a tac'ed out M4 with lights and stuff. I would never want to mess with them.
Hats off to you guys. Some make fun of you but you are the backbone of a base.

Joey
02-12-2006, 22:06
Originally posted by AFshooter
I'm not SF but I think the guys that fly on my jet E-4B

You're jet;f ;f

Kids nowadays;)

Got to Offutt back in 83 when one (think it was just 1) was still a E4A. Flew on the E4B as a backup and loged many hours as CI/CB on both alert and non alert E4's.

Ran into one of the very 1st E4 drivers here after I retired, he is a heck of a man and has some good stories!!!!

Rob96
02-13-2006, 03:19
On enlistment as a Security Specialist, ah the old days. Was at Clark Air Base, Republic of the Phillippines and Minot AFB.

hicksdm
02-13-2006, 19:41
Security police/Forces from 1992-present. Stationed in Vogelweh Germany from 1992-1997 and been at Eglin ever since. Many trips to kuwait, iraq, saudi, somolia, and haiti. Going to Afganistan in a few weeks. Glad to see a few of us on board.

speedgun1
02-14-2006, 05:43
857/91 MSS (Security Police)
1988-1992
Minot AFB, ND

Drove countless miles in the missile fields. Some good times back then. Got cold up there though!! Would like to go back someday and see what has changed.

Glockster35
02-14-2006, 08:00
1989-1991 6500 SPS/Edwards AFB, CA
1991-1991 3rd SPS/Clark AB, Phillipines
1991-1999 92 SFS/Fairchild AFB, WA
1999-2002 60 SFS/Travis AFB, CA (CATM)
2002-present 52 SFS/Spangdahlem AB, Germany
Next Assignment (My #1 Choice)-Jun 06-4 SFS/ Seymour Johnson, NC

RussP
02-14-2006, 11:29
Originally posted by speedgun1
857/91 MSS (Security Police)
1988-1992
Minot AFB, ND

Drove countless miles in the missile fields. Some good times back then. Got cold up there though!! Would like to go back someday and see what has changed. COLD? I was there for a week one November and it was like 14 degrees. The wind was blowing. That was way more than cold...

I was real happy to get back to boring Vandenberg weather...;f

Rob96
02-14-2006, 16:27
Originally posted by Glockster35
1989-1991 6500 SPS/Edwards AFB, CA
1991-1991 3rd SPS/Clark AB, Phillipines
1991-1999 92 SFS/Fairchild AFB, WA
1999-2002 60 SFS/Travis AFB, CA (CATM)
2002-present 52 SFS/Spangdahlem AB, Germany
Next Assignment (My #1 Choice)-Jun 06-4 SFS/ Seymour Johnson, NC

I must have just missed you at Clark. I was there Dec. '88 through Dec. '90.



Drove countless miles in the missile fields. Some good times back then. Got cold up there though!! Would like to go back someday and see what has changed.

You want to know what was bad. I left the Phillippines in December and it was like 100*. I got to Minot in January and it was like -80* with the windchill.;P

Glockster35
02-14-2006, 17:29
I got there about 2 months before Mt Pinatubo blew it's load...err...I mean top!

Joey
02-14-2006, 18:03
Originally posted by Rob96 You want to know what was bad. I left the Phillippines in December and it was like 100*. I got to Minot in January and it was like -80* with the windchill.;P [/B]

I left Okinawa Mar of 92 & went straight to Minot, woza did I freeze my tail off that 1st winter;f ;f ;f

EverMindful
02-15-2006, 00:59
439th SFS, Westover AFB. Reserves.

speedgun1
02-15-2006, 02:47
Originally posted by RussP
COLD? I was there for a week one November and it was like 14 degrees. The wind was blowing. That was way more than cold...

I was real happy to get back to boring Vandenberg weather...;f

I thought the same thing when I stepped off the plane in Dec. there. But honestly, most of us got used to the cold, wind, snow, ice, etc, etc, etc. I remember a few -70+ degree days (w/wind chill) there. So cold that you just don't feel anymore!

Speedgun1 ;c

jtshombre
02-15-2006, 16:10
81150A (10/73-9/77)

Fairchild A.F.B., WA. 5/1974-12/1975 (SAC-Peace is our profession, War is our Hobby)
Incirlik C.D.I. 12/1975-3/1977 (U.S.A.F.E.)
Malmstrom A.F.B., MT. 3/1977-till discharge in 9/77 (SAC, again!)

I was a true dog handler, I was **** on, pissed on, and bit, and still have the scars to prove it! Worked some LE duty at Fairchild (helped subdue a guy tearing up the barracks with my dog, my, how quickly they comply with a 100 lb. shepherd snarling and lunging at them) and in Turkey, walking around the housing areas in the dark hours with the dog. Went TDY to Glasgow A.F.B., MT. when the 92nd Bomb Wing still had some bombers on alert there, and watched jackrabbits run around on the runway in the wee hours. Other than working the dogs, pretty boring job. Welcome fellow Space Pigs & SAC warriors! Take care...

cyberj61
02-15-2006, 19:21
6 months delayed recruitment 6 months at Lackland and Camp Bullis '78 81150A Training (SP)and Dog School then off to Spangdahlem W.Germany (52nd SPS) until end of '80. Remember all those Hares running around the weapon storage areas and that "Withches Grave" glowing in the moonlight across from the Fuel Tanks around on the back forty. We also had a old F-4 (tail number 777) that seemed to move from side to side in the shelters when it was on alert duty.

"Spang" town was boring but I preferred the "Hook and Gun" club over at Bitburg.

Glockster35
02-16-2006, 03:15
Originally posted by cyberj61
6 months delayed recruitment 6 months at Lackland and Camp Bullis '78 81150A Training (SP)and Dog School then off to Spangdahlem W.Germany (52nd SPS) until end of '80. Remember all those Hares running around the weapon storage areas and that "Withches Grave" glowing in the moonlight across from the Fuel Tanks around on the back forty. We also had a old F-4 (tail number 777) that seemed to move from side to side in the shelters when it was on alert duty.

"Spang" town was boring but I preferred the "Hook and Gun" club over at Bitburg.

I never see any Hares running around here. The Witches Grave still stands, spooky frigging place. F-4's are all gone nowdays.

And Yes, Spangtown is a waste. The Old Bitburg AB, has become a housing area for Spangdahlem, everything else was turned over to the Germans. Wish I knew where their range was, i'd go check if it is capable of being used. BTW, I live on the Old Bitburg AB.

Decguns
02-17-2006, 10:18
Not SF's by AFSC, but got PCA'd to the 20th SFS at RAF Upper Heyford from 1990-94. It was fun while it lasted, but I prefer my current avionics backshop job.

GlockRookie
02-17-2006, 10:27
FE Warren (81 - 82) Worked Kilo, Lima and Mike
Incirlik (82 - 83) it was a blurrrrrrrr...............
Malmstrom (83 - 88) Assist. NCOIC of convoys
Shemya (88 - 89) Flight Chief
Pope (89 - 93) 23rd SPS NCOIC Armory, Mobility, handled beddown of A-10's. Way cool.

Started as a security specialist, but started more LE stuff when I went to Shemya. Was at Pope when the F16 crashed on the tarmac.

Looks like the AF is pulling its share of the convoy duty in Iraq.

Sometimes would like to go back to Shemya just for old times sake. Only place I've been to that was a 1000 miles from nowhere.

GR

LilCop2002
02-18-2006, 15:13
Wow! There's a bunch of people here on GT that are SF members. I would have never guessed it to be completely honest.

Currently a SSgt with the 134th SFS in East TN, but I'm currently TDY to the Deid. If you've been around lately, you know where it is.

Rob96, do you happen to know a MSgt Ford from Spangdahlem? Maybe a SSgt Wright from Fairchild?

Rob96
02-18-2006, 15:16
Originally posted by LilCop2002
Wow! There's a bunch of people here on GT that are SF members. I would have never guessed it to be completely honest.

Currently a SSgt with the 134th SFS in East TN, but I'm currently TDY to the Deid. If you've been around lately, you know where it is.

Rob96, do you happen to know a MSgt Ford from Spangdahlem? Maybe a SSgt Wright from Fairchild?

Can't say that I do. Any reason?

Glockster35
02-18-2006, 19:18
LilCop2002,

I know MSgt Ford, hear he's a piece of work over there, and they have tried several times to send him home.

I may also know Wright, but would need a first name to know for sure.

Small world isn't it!

5madman2
02-18-2006, 20:45
21 years, 5 months and 7 days as an SP

Had a ball;z

davew83
02-20-2006, 02:07
Just under 3 years as SP/SF at Tinker OK from Nov 01-March 04 (medical discharge).

happyguy
02-20-2006, 19:59
USAF Security Police

Malmstrom AFB 1973-1976
RAF Lakenheath 1976-1978
Loring AFB 1978-1984
Vandenberg AFB 1984-1988
Clark AB 1989-1991
Dyess AFB 1991-1994

Regards,
Happyguy:)

Rob96
02-21-2006, 04:01
Originally posted by happyguy
USAF Security Police

Malmstrom AFB 1973-1976
RAF Lakenheath 1976-1978
Loring AFB 1978-1984
Vandenberg AFB 1984-1988
Clark AB 1989-1991
Dyess AFB 1991-1994

Regards,
Happyguy:)

What did you work while at Clark?

Glockster35
02-21-2006, 11:16
When I was at Clark, I was one of the unfortunate LE types assigned to the Security Squadron for Resource Protection...what a crock that was. Was more like an opportunity to put the Security guys on riding patrols while the LE types guarded their Aircraft.

Hence my hated for anything security nowdays, because all the LE experience is gone, and all that remains are a bunch of Security guys who want nothing to do with LE.

BTW, I tested for E-7 today...one more year as an E-6!;Q

Joey
02-21-2006, 14:09
Originally posted by Glockster35
When I was at Clark, I was one of the unfortunate LE types assigned to the Security Squadron for Resource Protection...what a crock that was. Was more like an opportunity to put the Security guys on riding patrols while the LE types guarded their Aircraft.

Hence my hated for anything security nowdays, because all the LE experience is gone, and all that remains are a bunch of Security guys who want nothing to do with LE.

BTW, I tested for E-7 today...one more year as an E-6!;Q

Bet you were a honda homo at heart & hated all us "security pukes" eh;g ;g ;g ;g ;g

I got pulled over (well they tried, but I blew him off and that really pissed him off & he tried slamming me for falure to yield) by a honda homo going 20mph over the posted speed limit in a hummer responding back to the Cope-T ramp (from chow) for a helping hand as we had a local national sitting in one of our F-15's

Turnd out the honda homo's got a 3 day pass for every security puke they pulled over.

Nothing like ****ting in you're backyard eh.............

Rob96
02-21-2006, 16:16
Originally posted by Glockster35
When I was at Clark, I was one of the unfortunate LE types assigned to the Security Squadron for Resource Protection...what a crock that was. Was more like an opportunity to put the Security guys on riding patrols while the LE types guarded their Aircraft.

Hence my hated for anything security nowdays, because all the LE experience is gone, and all that remains are a bunch of Security guys who want nothing to do with LE.

BTW, I tested for E-7 today...one more year as an E-6!;Q

Well that had to be after I left in December '90. The only time that I know of having augmentees was during the coup attempt and during the Cope Thunder exercise.

Glockster35
02-21-2006, 16:19
Never heard the Honda Homo comment before, and sorry I wasn't one of them.

I doubt highly that they got a three day pass for busting a Security troop. B.S. stories like that have always been around.

And yes, I don't personally care for Security troops much...started at Clark, and has now grown much worse. I can't wait until they civilianize LE totally across the AF, and re-vamp the careerfield once again.

I got a few years until I will retire, and I need a job:cool:

Seriously, things are shaking up once again, and there is a new SF plan in place, we just don't have all the details yet.

Glockster35
02-21-2006, 17:40
I wasn't an augmentee, I was an LE troop. And it was from March 1991, until the base closed. There were probably 7-10 LE guys per Security Flight, supposedly to guard the NMSA, which never happened.

b8tr
02-21-2006, 17:53
1995-2001 103rd SFS Connecticut Air National Guard

Rob96
02-22-2006, 04:10
Originally posted by Glockster35
I wasn't an augmentee, I was an LE troop. And it was from March 1991, until the base closed. There were probably 7-10 LE guys per Security Flight, supposedly to guard the NMSA, which never happened.

See that was a different time. Smal things like the base getting leveled by a volcanic eruption kinda change how things operate. You posted as if it was common practice for the LE guys to come over to our side the house. Heaven forbid an LE guy has to hump a C-5, KC-10, AWAC or whatever else happened to come in.;Q

Glockster35
02-22-2006, 10:15
I was assigned to the Security unit many months before the eruption leveled the base. They had been assigning LE troops to the Security flights for at least a year when I got there.

MrMurphy
02-22-2006, 10:38
I almost killed a smurf last week when the Humvee didn't quite turn tight enough..... uparmoreds turn wider than regular Humvees, which I found out the hard way. :)

Joey
02-22-2006, 10:57
I had a LE roomate who ended up on Clark working a LE flight. He was the one who told me about the honda homo's after I was pulled over by them when we were sitting in Abby Road Seems that it came from a LE troop stationed on Clark on a LE flight it might have a little more weight behind it than just a "security" story ;f

You would not believe how many people told me I was "just a security troop" and did not have the training or authority to run radar or right citations. On Okinawa I always sent them to the "complaint department" (LE Sup) who was another hard core LE troop and backed me to the hilt since I was trained and had it in my OJT records.

I've got to admit, I've been TDY with LE guys who cried and whined about going TDY with a bunch of Security Pukes and pulling "security" duties, but they loved Clark when not working on the flightline (Cope-T) or the other bases where you pulled "security" duties, and no LE duties.

I was in Riyadh back in 96 & had a brand spanking new LE A1C who had less than 6 months on station when his home unit sent him to Saudi.

He would not shut up about how a Security Troop (me) was the LE/Security combined flight Flight Chief and posted him on the flightline when he should be on Police 1 (one of 3 patrols) since he was a LE troop and knew more than I did or the the NCO's I had on patrol about LE operations. The twit cried so much he ended up going to the Ops NCO (who was a true blue hard core LE Sr NCO) and the kid ended up getting a LOR from the Sup.

Some people (nobody here I might add) are born cry babies and just can not understand how Security and LE could work togeather, let alone be cobined.


Anybody Remember MSgt Lynn from Clark????????????

Rob96
02-22-2006, 16:45
Originally posted by Glockster35
I was assigned to the Security unit many months before the eruption leveled the base. They had been assigning LE troops to the Security flights for at least a year when I got there.

Like I said, I was at Clark December "88 through December '90. The ONLY time we had LE troops was during the coup and during the yearly Cope Thunder exercises. I worked the strictly day shift flight, though so if any LE was assigen to security while I was there, it had to have been on the swing flights then.

My favorite bars in order of preference at Clark:

Murphy's
The Zoo
Head Queen's ;)
Abby Road
My 5th fav was a newer one in the same area as Murphy's but it was in the square catty corner from the Wagon Wheel.

For them wild nights, The Nipa Hut.

happyguy
02-22-2006, 18:45
Originally posted by Rob96
What did you work while at Clark?

Bravo and Charlie Flight Security

Ops NCO and Security NCO

I got there right when the NPA tried to hit our guys going to the range, enjoyed the coup attempt, and really enjoyed Mt. Pinatubo!

Regards,
Happyguy:)

speedgun1
02-22-2006, 18:48
Never really understood the whole LE vs SF thing while I was in the game. My experience was that neither side worked much (or well) with each other at "The Not" (Minot AFB). I always thought that everyone was supposed to be on the same side.....turned out not to be, at least at MAFB.

As a side note, I have run into many ex-SP types in the civilian LEO field over the years since I left the AF. I can't remember one ex-LE troop. Also, have trained many hundreds of new LEOs at the academy level to this date....never one ex-LE there either. Does this mean something? I don't know, but that is fact from my perspective anyway. Just my 2c.

"Freezin IS the Reason"

Speedgun1

BTW...Pics are inbound JOEY :cool:

RF7126
02-22-2006, 20:00
If anyone is interested there is a forum for Security Forces/Security Police. www.airforcesecuritypolice.com or www.afsp.net

Glockster35
02-23-2006, 00:30
Sorry Rob, that isn't true either. I worked Alpha flight, so I was probably working with you. Maybe you just didn't know about it at the time.

I wish I could recall my supervisors name, but I do recall that my flight commander looked like Donny Osmond, and when the top blew off the volcano, he jumped ship and drove to Manila instead of the college we all went to. He was supposedly Court Martialed later over something that happened during the aftermath.

Ring a bell at all?

I spent a lot of my time at the Wagon Wheel too...I am sure we probably know each other.

Buzzsaw
02-23-2006, 00:58
Originally posted by speedgun1
Never really understood the whole LE vs SF thing while I was in the game. My experience was that neither side worked much (or well) with each other at "The Not" (Minot AFB). I always thought that everyone was supposed to be on the same side.....turned out not to be, at least at MAFB.

As a side note, I have run into many ex-SP types in the civilian LEO field over the years since I left the AF. I can't remember one ex-LE troop. Also, have trained many hundreds of new LEOs at the academy level to this date....never one ex-LE there either. Does this mean something? I don't know, but that is fact from my perspective anyway. Just my 2c.

"Freezin IS the Reason"

Speedgun1

BTW...Pics are inbound JOEY :cool:

I am a former LE troop and I am in civilian law enforcement. I also have a co worker who was a LE troop. I have to say that while I was active duty the career fields merged but I went through LE tech school. I also did a whole lot of security especially while stationed at Minot (5th SFS).

Rob96
02-23-2006, 03:50
Originally posted by Glockster35
Sorry Rob, that isn't true either. I worked Alpha flight, so I was probably working with you. Maybe you just didn't know about it at the time.

I wish I could recall my supervisors name, but I do recall that my flight commander looked like Donny Osmond, and when the top blew off the volcano, he jumped ship and drove to Manila instead of the college we all went to. He was supposedly Court Martialed later over something that happened during the aftermath.

Ring a bell at all?

I spent a lot of my time at the Wagon Wheel too...I am sure we probably know each other.

Don't know the flight commander you are talking about. I actually have to dig for my book on Clark to see who our commander was. For some reason I seem to think we were between commanders at the time of my pcs. The flight chief when I left was MSGT. Kaliakoa(sp?) He was a big Samoan dude.

You can always IM me your name to see if I know you. Everyone and I mean everyone all the way up to Mad Max Major Maxwell called me Smitty.

As far as your comments about all of the LE guys humpin so the Security guys could ride just ain't true, at least my two years there. We simply didn't have that many riding posts. We would staff one fire team. Then you had one area sup. for each of the comm. sites (SATCOM, the Elephant cage, Dao + the embassy site combined), 13A, 13B, 14,and 15(all flightline patrols), 2 wsa's, amd 28. For the flightline, if you didn't have a flightline license you walked the area.

Some of my best friends there were Ocasio, Jorres, Morozewiki, Berry, and Nutter. Still maintain contact with Ocasio and Jorres.

MrMurphy
02-23-2006, 04:02
Where I am, you can pull a LE post one day, and Security the next. You'd better know how to do both, and you'd BETTER have a flightline license, or else you don't drive.

Rob96
02-23-2006, 04:03
Originally posted by happyguy
Bravo and Charlie Flight Security

Ops NCO and Security NCO

I got there right when the NPA tried to hit our guys going to the range, enjoyed the coup attempt, and really enjoyed Mt. Pinatubo!

Regards,
Happyguy:)

I will never forget the day the bombs were found in the middle of the roa. Still watch the online video of EOD detonatng one of the cans out in the drop zone. With everything I went through at Clark, the assassinations, the earthquake, typhoons, base restrictions, the strike, the coup, I feel left out becasue I wasn't there for the volcano.:(

afdefender
02-23-2006, 04:20
I seem to be the newest guy here, been in since 2001. Station at Holloman AFB, NM from 2001-2005. Just PCS'ed to Osan AB.

Joey
02-23-2006, 10:33
Originally posted by Rob96
The flight chief when I left was MSGT. Kaliakoa(sp?) He was a big Samoan dude.



Hummm that rings a bell, on a Cope-T TDY the flight I was assigned to had a Samoan dude as FS, but heck if I know what his name was or what flight it was.


What year was it when they renovated the top floor of the op bulding. I was there for a trip to the Valley and we stayed on the top floor (same buld supply was in, not far from the Armory) with all the walls and crap ripped out.

Anybody go to Vampires;P ;P ;P ;P

Glockster35
02-23-2006, 11:00
While I was there the Commander for the Group was Col Dasher (SP?), they called him Gladiator, he eventually became the base commander, then one of the other commanders was Col Corwin (Court Martialed from what I hear), and I think one of the other Commanders was Col Moyer? I want to say that my squadron commander was an ex Marine, named Maj Smith, but it's been many years.

The only Smitty I knew I think he worked in Vehicle Maint for the Security SQ.

I remember a big Samoan Dude, If I recall he was a MSgt. My Flight Chief was a huge black MSgt, had to have a wedge put in the sides of his shirt because his back and arms were so large, no uniform would fit him without alterations.

Rob96
02-23-2006, 13:54
You didn't work days when I was there. The Day shift flight was C- Flight (Cobra flight). All the way up until I left Maj. Maxwell was the squadron commander.

Anybody go to Vampires

I remember that as well.

Really, despite all of the San Miguels, Tequila, and Soju, there isn't too much about Clark I forget.

Glockster35
02-23-2006, 14:48
When was it again that you left, I departed 10 days before the closed it, I got there 2 months before it blew.

For some reason, I don't recall what our emblem was, but I know it wasn't a cobra. I do recall that at shift change, they announced it by saying snakes in the grass as a signal that post change was taking place. So maybe I was working directly behind you guys.

Vampires, hell, only a year ago or so, I threw away my Vampires bandana. That place was crazy!

happyguy
02-23-2006, 16:55
Originally posted by Glockster35
Sorry Rob, that isn't true either. I worked Alpha flight, so I was probably working with you. Maybe you just didn't know about it at the time.

I wish I could recall my supervisors name, but I do recall that my flight commander looked like Donny Osmond, and when the top blew off the volcano, he jumped ship and drove to Manila instead of the college we all went to. He was supposedly Court Martialed later over something that happened during the aftermath.

Ring a bell at all?

I spent a lot of my time at the Wagon Wheel too...I am sure we probably know each other.

I remember that guy, weren't there two of them and didn't they end up staying at the embassy for a week or two before they came back?

Regards,
Happyguy:)

Joey
02-23-2006, 17:00
Originally posted by speedgun1
BTW...Pics are inbound JOEY :cool:

Well.............................;f ;f ;f

Don't make me hurt you ;g ;i ;i ;n ;n ~1 ~ts ~ts

Rob96
02-23-2006, 17:42
Originally posted by Glockster35
When was it again that you left, I departed 10 days before the closed it, I got there 2 months before it blew.

For some reason, I don't recall what our emblem was, but I know it wasn't a cobra. I do recall that at shift change, they announced it by saying snakes in the grass as a signal that post change was taking place. So maybe I was working directly behind you guys.

Vampires, hell, only a year ago or so, I threw away my Vampires bandana. That place was crazy!

I was there December 1988 through December 1990, two full years. Yes when we did break guard mount they said the snakes were in the grass.

Joey
02-23-2006, 18:02
Originally posted by Rob96
Yes when we did break guard mount they said the snakes were in the grass.

1st time I herd that I was like WTF;g ;g ;g

Don't remember if that was the flight I worked with or not, but I was on days to play at night.

We stayed at a hotel just out the main gate about 1/2 way down Mc Auther (was that the park right out the main gate that was off limits after dark???) and on the left side.

Third eye anybody;f ;f ;f

Rob96
02-24-2006, 03:54
Originally posted by Joey
1st time I herd that I was like WTF;g ;g ;g

Don't remember if that was the flight I worked with or not, but I was on days to play at night.

We stayed at a hotel just out the main gate about 1/2 way down Mc Auther (was that the park right out the main gate that was off limits after dark???) and on the left side.

Third eye anybody;f ;f ;f

If you were on days, then you were on my flight. Yes that was the park outside Main Gate on the left that was off limits at night. At night the billyboys came out to play in that park.;P

Glockster35
02-24-2006, 10:53
This is bringing back memories, and yes there were two Officers who went to Manila together, one was the Donny Osmond look alike, the other was a tall geeky LT.

I heard several of the Cop Officers got Court Martialed after they left, mostly for some business about diverting funds from contract work on the base to building a club for the cops.

Was this the club near the dorms that had the camo netting and the strippers?

Anyone know anything about this?

I heard this from a guy I work with now named Compton, he's a Senior Master Sergeant now, but we did not know each other back then!

Joey
02-24-2006, 11:14
Originally posted by Rob96
If you were on days, then you were on my flight. Yes that was the park outside Main Gate on the left that was off limits at night. At night the billyboys came out to play in that park.;P

I think it ws 90 when I was on day shift for a Cope-T.

Was out in the Valley when the earthquake hit, nothing like watching a duce with a water buffalo in it go airborne;P

Col Nick Row's ambush, was it his car that was parked out by the Kennels (I think) after it was shot up.

Was there when the 2 guys were TDY from Korea were shot, that was a bad deal.

Let's see the cadre I can remember Mad Jack (Maried to a black lady) Apple something or other, the Sra who was kicked out of the AF Academy...Need to put on my thinking hat;f ;f

MrMurphy
02-24-2006, 11:25
Afdefender, I graduated tech school 20 October, so i got you beat on "newest". I'm at my first base. :)

Rob96
02-24-2006, 11:26
Originally posted by Joey
I think it ws 90 when I was on day shift for a Cope-T.

Was out in the Valley when the earthquake hit, nothing like watching a duce with a water buffalo in it go airborne;P

Col Nick Row's ambush, was it his car that was parked out by the Kennels (I think) after it was shot up.

Was there when the 2 guys were TDY from Korea were shot, that was a bad deal.

Let's see the cadre I can remember Mad Jack (Maried to a black lady) Apple something or other, the Sra who was kicked out of the AF Academy...Need to put on my thinking hat;f ;f

I was taking a nap in my dorm when the eathquake hit. I remember trying to run out but couldn't.

Col. Nick Rowes ambush I will never forget. All in all, if I remember correctly 11 Americans were wacked while I was there. Two of the were Ford Aerospace workers. Happened the night before then VP Quayle visited the base. I also remember the two TDY's from Korea who were hit. One was 18 yrs. old. Believe it or not, I can still close my eyes and see the crime scene photos of them all.

In all seriousness, despite Angeles being an adult playground, we did have some rough work. I hated chasing intruders in the washouts, getting rocked while in the M60 turret while on fireteams doing perimeter patrols. I saw two people get shot, during the coup, we had a car load of PAF officers crash the gate, didn't know if they were rebel or not. We intercepted them. I had the luck of going up to clear the car, one guy left inside that went for a grenade. Had some other hair raising occurrences during the coup.;P

Glockster35
02-24-2006, 12:51
Anyone notice they had a coup attempt there again today.

It was definately an adult playground, not that I minded much, I was a single young guy at the time. I would not want to be stationed there now.

But if I ever get divorced...watch out!;P

Rob96
02-24-2006, 13:03
I actually liked the work there. Funny how we were living terrorism way before it becasme a household word.

Joey
02-24-2006, 13:35
Originally posted by Rob96
I actually liked the work there. Funny how we were living terrorism way before it becasme a household word.

I loved going TDY to Clark and did everything I could to go and while the nightlife was wild (was single then), I loved the work as you actually got to do what we were "trained" to do instead of counting rivets ;f ;f

Had the paperwork in to COT to Clark when things went BOOM & I ended up going to Minot where stagnation and boordom were the rule. Funny thing was 2 good friends from Kadena (went to Clark with among other TDY's in PACAF) managed to stay on Kadena for another tour but they still ended up at the not ;P ;P

Me got in trouble a few times just after getting to Minot, seems the stateside way of doing things did not exactly line up with PACAF;g ;g

Funny story, I was in Riyadh when Khobar towers was bombed & was not the ranking NCO on day shift(we had a milktoast TSgt & I was a SSgt) but was put in charge of the entire flight & the TSgt went away for busy work cuz I was not afraid to make on the spot decsions and react while being able to defend my actions unlike the other NCO's who were never on Clark or any hostile area before.

Learned a lot from Clark did I

Rob96
02-24-2006, 13:54
Me got in trouble a few times just after getting to Minot, seems the stateside way of doing things did not exactly line up with PACAF

I found that out when I got to Minot. Squadron commander put me on the fat boy program, I was under the weight, but the body fat % was over. I looked at and said " Sir I am sure you should be on the program as well. He hit the roof. That and plus the fact I took over 30 days of leave when I pcs'd from Clark. The Orderly Room told me it was ok, just as long as I didn't miss my report no later than date. The commander and 1st shirt looked at me and said you guys from Clark just think you know everything and can do whatever you want.;f I just looked at him and said "We didn't win best Group in the Air Force for nothing. He was really pissed when he had to present me with my Achievement Medal and btz Sra stripes.

maclean
02-25-2006, 02:29
Checking in.

446 SFS McChord AFB

Temah
02-26-2006, 17:58
Air Force Security Forces: 434 SFS (Reserves)

Currently - 434th CATM NCOIC

Don't let the CATM fool ya; I play almost as much on the SF side, mainly instructor for Defensive Tactics, Taser, ASP, OC, Emergency Vehicle Operations.

Volunteered for the desert when the war broke out (Mar 03). Couldn't get farther than PSAB at the time.

Was active duty Army. Started as infantry (4 years - also NBC NCO), then SATCOM for six years.

Went AF Reserve CE (Power Pro, Electrical) for 4-5 years, then SF (CATM).

Full time Municipal Police Officer (15 years). 1st Sergeant on 2nd Shift, but also instructor for Firearms, Defensive Tactics, Less Lethal, Taser, ASP, OC, EVOC.

It's ALL fun!!!

SCPO
02-26-2006, 20:10
my hats off to you who guarded us. i was a crew chief on alert pad at izmir, turkey early 60's and we had 4 F-100 loaded with nuclar weapons on alert with a ap at each a/c 24/7. it sure got cold over there during winter with the wind blowing all the time. also 2 ap's on gate.

4TS&W
02-26-2006, 20:35
I almost got bit by one of your K9's exiting the Rapcon one night..

does that count?

;g ;c

JimBianchi
02-26-2006, 23:11
Joined the Coast Guard on Delayed enlistment on my birthday, 15 Feb 1980. I was all of 17! Entered Basic June 2, 1980.

It took me almost three years to figure out living on a boat sucked!

When I switched services, I volunteered for Security. First day of tech school a instructor asked how many of us were volunteers?

Out of 74, only my hand was up. Most were "open general" or wash out's from other schools. (And real unhappy)

Basic/Tech school: Entered 22 Feb 1983
Clear AFB, AK Jun 83 to July 84
George AFB, CA July 84 to Sept 88 (Elf One Oct 86 to Jan 87)
Galena Airport, AK Sept 88 to Sept 89
Arraxos AB, Greece Sept 89 to Nov 91
Gedi AB, Italy Dec 91 to Dec 93
Tinker AFB, OK Jan 94 to July 99
Medical madtory cross trained into Public Affairs in March 99 Came back to Tinker for two months)
Nellis AFB NV, July 99 to Oct 02. Retired!!!

Jim

MrMurphy
02-27-2006, 05:28
Of my team of 100 or so (washed back down to about 84) approximately 60 were volunteers. The rest were open general.

speedgun1
02-27-2006, 07:22
"Me got in trouble a few times just after getting to Minot, seems the stateside way of doing things did not exactly line up with PACAF;g ;g"

We could have used you a few yrs earlier up there! Seems like that place was either filled with kiss-ass types or non-comformists! Us non-conformists all seemed to do the majority of the work...and we all got out when we could! The NOT was def. a different place. ;Q

Joey...you know what happened to Msgt Johnston or Tsgt Wade???? Was Msgt(Ret.) Wason still around up there when you left?

Speedgun ;c

speedgun1
02-27-2006, 07:26
Originally posted by Joey
Well.............................;f ;f ;f

Don't make me hurt you ;g ;i ;i ;n ;n ~1 ~ts ~ts


LOL....I had some problems with the disc that I am using. Sucks...had some cool stuff on that disc from over the years. I'll get some more recent ones to you soon. Be patient my son! :)

Speedgun ;c

Joey
02-27-2006, 07:30
Originally posted by speedgun1
Be patient my son! :) Speedgun ;c

Yes Father ~hg ~hg ~hg ~hg ~hg ^1 ^1

J Moses
03-03-2006, 17:59
Originally posted by Glockster35
This is bringing back memories, and yes there were two Officers who went to Manila together, one was the Donny Osmond look alike, the other was a tall geeky LT.

I heard several of the Cop Officers got Court Martialed after they left, mostly for some business about diverting funds from contract work on the base to building a club for the cops.

Was this the club near the dorms that had the camo netting and the strippers?

Anyone know anything about this?

I heard this from a guy I work with now named Compton, he's a Senior Master Sergeant now, but we did not know each other back then!

I was on the same flight during the same time. His nickname was Manilavich. We did have a lot of LE guys on our shift. When we got back from Mt. Ayrat the shift was assigned a sector of the base. It was the elephant cage, negrito gate, and area 1. The shift was then broken up into two. Half of us worked days and the other worked mids. I worked mids. Which did you work ?

Glockster35
03-04-2006, 03:32
I worked mids as well.

5madman2
03-05-2006, 15:25
Originally posted by JimBianchi
Joined the Coast Guard on Delayed enlistment on my birthday, 15 Feb 1980. I was all of 17! Entered Basic June 2, 1980.

It took me almost three years to figure out living on a boat sucked!

When I switched services, I volunteered for Security. First day of tech school a instructor asked how many of us were volunteers?

Out of 74, only my hand was up. Most were "open general" or wash out's from other schools. (And real unhappy)


Jim

I was probably the one that asked the volunteer question-usually followed it up with an explanation that since they volunteered for the AF, they volunteered for anything the AF chose for them to do.

Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't (USAF SP Academy instructor, 3285 SS and 3287 TTS 1980-1984)

My other favorite was when someone tried to tell what their Recruiter told them. I usually answered it with a simple question "Your Recruiter had to get you here, I've got you here, who do you figure is telling the truth?";f

Joey
03-05-2006, 15:32
Originally posted by 5madman2
USAF SP Academy instructor, 3285 SS and 3287 TTS 1980-1984)



Hummm, Seems like I went thrugh the Security academy Nov-Jan of 82 & then out to Bullis. Not sure exactly when I started except we had Christmas off & had the choice of leave or details, so I took leave.

Was in the old wooden barracks kitty cornered from Chapel 7 but there again I'm not sure what squadron it was.

5madman2
03-05-2006, 15:38
Originally posted by Joey
Hummm, Seems like I went thrugh the Security academy Nov-Jan of 82 & then out to Bullis. Not sure exactly when I started except we had Christmas off & had the choice of leave or details, so I took leave.

Was in the old wooden barracks kitty cornered from Chapel 7 but there again I'm not sure what squadron it was.

Man you're testing my Faded Memory on where that was-the 85ths barracks were wood-can't remember where the chapel was-and the base has changed so much since then.

I went to Bullis to teach in Late 82.

Joey
03-05-2006, 16:51
Originally posted by 5madman2
Man you're testing my Faded Memory on where that was-the 85ths barracks were wood-can't remember where the chapel was-and the base has changed so much since then.

I went to Bullis to teach in Late 82.

Memories fade as we get old ;f ;f ;f Need to see if I can dig up some of the old pictures.

Seems like we were across the street from the boot shining shop. Went back to Lackland in 93 or 94 & the barracks I was in had been turned into a USMC bulding of some kind with clearing barrels outside. Was not far from the old schoolhouse & the squadron CC was on the corner of the street I think.

Gradumacated Bullis Mar of 83, flew back home & then drove to Offutt where I spent the next 6 years;g ;g

Still remember the strippers at the all ranks club on Bullis;c ;c ;c

5madman2
03-05-2006, 18:21
Originally posted by Joey


Gradumacated Bullis Mar of 83, flew back home & then drove to Offutt where I spent the next 6 years;g ;g

Still remember the strippers at the all ranks club on Bullis;c ;c ;c

So do I-long story, best told over cold ones;c ;c ;c ;c ;f

Seven High
03-11-2006, 13:10
You people sure make me feel old. I went thru Lackland/Bullis September 1963 thru January 1964.I was stationed at Bitburg AB from 1964 to 1967. 36th Air Police Squadron Security D flight.

5madman2
03-11-2006, 17:07
Originally posted by Joey


Still remember the strippers at the all ranks club on Bullis;c ;c ;c

Just now remembered the names:
Cricket, Bambi and Frances

Frances had had quite the rack

There are other stories too ;P

jeprox
03-11-2006, 20:55
Hello to all you fellow Blue Berets. I was in the Security Police Law Enforcement side from 1976 to 1980 Stationed at Clark Air Base in the Philippines 1977-1978 and then Patrick AFB in Coca Beach, Florida 1978-1980. Had I stayed in I was gauranteed a short or long tour to Guam, then a year in Korea and then a long tour back to the PI. Wudda, cudda, shudda!

I run a Yahoo! Group called Cops of Clark Air Base so if you were there, come check us out. I am going back to visit the PI in 2007.

Cops of Clark Air Base on Yahoo! Link (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CopsOfClarkAirBase/)

Clark was a great place to work and to live!!

Mabuhay to all you Clark Cops.

Dave

jeprox
03-11-2006, 21:22
I was at Clark when Bob Gray was killed. And then sometime there after, some bonehead LE Troop shot himself in the leg and claimed he was shot by an intruder.

Clark had a great diversity of things to do for us Cops. I worked days and the only time I did something outside of regular LE stuff was when I worked a tower in the bomb dump one day. Great views from up there.

I never understood the LE security thing. We all wore the same badge, just did different duties.

When I was at Patrick AFB, we had only LE troops but we also did all the security work on the flightline. That was a great base too. I was on the SWAT/ERT Team there.

AFshooter
03-12-2006, 01:59
Originally posted by Joey
You're jet;f ;f

Kids nowadays;)

Got to Offutt back in 83 when one (think it was just 1) was still a E4A. Flew on the E4B as a backup and loged many hours as CI/CB on both alert and non alert E4's.

Ran into one of the very 1st E4 drivers here after I retired, he is a heck of a man and has some good stories!!!!

Haha, I was -2 years old when you got to Offutt!
Have you heard the latest? No more E-4B!
F-117 is also going bye-bye.

Joey
03-12-2006, 07:52
Originally posted by AFshooter
Haha, I was -2 years old when you got to Offutt!
Have you heard the latest? No more E-4B!
F-117 is also going bye-bye.

Heard the F-117 was going away, but not the E4;P ;P ;P

Say it ain't so, they ain't sending those big birds to the bone yard;1 ;1 ;1 ;1 ;1 ;1 ;1

AFshooter
03-15-2006, 01:09
I heard they would gut them and make cargo planes out of them.
There are only four. I can't see them going to the bone yard. Maybe they will put one on a stick at Offutt like the EC-135. It is quite a piece of history. I am sure the museums will get them. AF museum at Wright-Patt maybe or the SAC museum in Lincoln NE.

J Moses
03-15-2006, 17:58
Originally posted by Glockster35
I worked mids as well.

I remember a few of you LE guys. Joe Renolds and a couple of others whose names I forget. I did hang out with you guys sometimes at the Wagon. Who can ever forget the Ram Jam song.

torrejon224
03-15-2006, 21:56
Security/LE from 1971 to 1988. Retired as SMSgt in 1988 due to disability. Lackland, Bulliss, DaNang, Griffiss, Torrejon, Moron, Mannheim, Nellis, Deep, dark, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, Alaska, Elmendorf, Nellis and many assorted TDYs in between to Italy, Turkey and other "nice" places!

milkcartonkid
03-29-2006, 23:27
Not a SF member by AFSC (i'm 4n0, EMT) but am TDY there as an augee..
7SFS.
Lots of sitting on the ramp watching jackrabbits...uhh..fight. yeah thats it. they are "fighting". :)

God Bless those guys...they are deployed alot. The joke is they have "dual Citizenship" and that they are TDY to dyess from their home station in Iraq...guess gallows humor is better than no humor at all.

To all that are over there, BE SAFE. We love you and come home soon.

SrA Rogers, John
EMT to the Stars!

MEDICS Hoo-Ah!!

jessebo
04-02-2006, 08:31
spent a year at kunsan and 3 at fairchild from 85-89

Josh Aston
04-13-2006, 07:48
1999 - til now. 4 more years and I go civilian (where the moeny's at)

wcpd
04-16-2006, 23:55
National Guard, Security Forces currently deployed to Iraq.

meeko
04-18-2006, 13:36
I was in the 97th SFS at Eaker (formerly Blytheville0 AFB Arkansas 86-91 the malmstrom AFB Montana 91-93 343 missile Security SQ. Now in an ANG SFS unit. Anyone a former SAC cop?

Rob96
04-18-2006, 15:52
Anyone a former SAC cop?

Did some time at Minot.

5madman2
04-18-2006, 17:09
Originally posted by meeko
I was in the 97th SFS at Eaker (formerly Blytheville0 AFB Arkansas 86-91 the malmstrom AFB Montana 91-93 343 missile Security SQ. Now in an ANG SFS unit. Anyone a former SAC cop?

Griffis Air Farce Base (Not a mispelling)

Joey
04-18-2006, 18:09
Offutt & Minot :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

meeko
04-18-2006, 19:39
Originally posted by 5madman2
Griffis Air Farce Base (Not a mispelling)

You weren't there in 91 when the knuckle heads came thru the fence and painted up a BUFF and whatever else they did? We herad about that forever all the way at Eaker Arkansas. We got talked down to like it happened at our base. I know CINCSAC GEN Chien (sp) did not like cops after that. I remember it happened on Jan 1 1991. then a few days later we got deployed to Desert storm and our buff pilots flew eakers buff's to griffiand took there Buff's. Don't know if it was because of that or thiers were configured for conventional stuff. The buff that went down was a crew from Eaker. Some kind of maintance problem they said. Hard to believe b52's don't just crash unless your trying to be a blue angel or something dumb. The AC CAPT Clark was one hell of a good guy and pilot. They treated him like crap after that. Three of the guys didn't make it. Clark was always good to the cops during generation exercises and anytime he was on alert. Hated to see that. I know if something bad happed it was beyond his control. We got back and they had his PRP pulled until I got orders in NOV 91 due to the base closing.

5madman2
04-19-2006, 03:45
Originally posted by meeko
You weren't there in 91 when the knuckle heads came thru the fence and painted up a BUFF and whatever else they did? We herad about that forever all the way at Eaker Arkansas. We got talked down to like it happened at our base. I know CINCSAC GEN Chien (sp) did not like cops after that. I remember it happened on Jan 1 1991. then a few days later we got deployed to Desert storm and our buff pilots flew eakers buff's to griffiand took there Buff's. Don't know if it was because of that or thiers were configured for conventional stuff. The buff that went down was a crew from Eaker. Some kind of maintance problem they said. Hard to believe b52's don't just crash unless your trying to be a blue angel or something dumb. The AC CAPT Clark was one hell of a good guy and pilot. They treated him like crap after that. Three of the guys didn't make it. Clark was always good to the cops during generation exercises and anytime he was on alert. Hated to see that. I know if something bad happed it was beyond his control. We got back and they had his PRP pulled until I got orders in NOV 91 due to the base closing.

I was there in 91, but was deployed to Desert Shield at the time of the incident. We heard about it over there almost real time. One of the guys wives called and said she heard something about 18 cops being relieved.

Within a few minutes we had figured out what happened, what flight and area supervisor was on duty.

The Griffiss cop unit as a whole was a mess. The flight on duty for the incident was a complete basket case-shoulda been broken up years prior and put into other flights-leadership changes never fixed it.

They fired the commander, Ops Officer, and Op supt. over that one. I don't think they went far enough. They should fired every TSgt and above that had been there more than 5 years. They had a bad problem with homesteading

I got back from Mideast in Apr 91, put in worldwide anywhere, and left for England in Oct 91. Was pretty happy to get out of that dump

MrMurphy
04-19-2006, 10:06
We had 3 Avoid Ambers today, with the same guys, over 4 hours.


Amazing....

DyessSP
05-08-2006, 15:04
I was at Dyess when it was SAC from 1986-1990.
We must have had about 500 cops there at that time between SP and LE.
The commander was Col Ralph Beckett. He ended up being in Germany I think when the air show crash happened.
I would like to get back in touch with anyone who served there those years.

paperboy
05-11-2006, 01:06
Enlisted as a Security Specialist '83 to '87.Stationed at Hickam AFB 15th SPS.A PACAF trained killer.

DyessSP
05-11-2006, 19:01
Hickam... tough duty, beach patrol?:)

paperboy
05-12-2006, 00:17
Beach patrol was a must.I can't count the times we spotted some very dangerous weapons being smuggled in bikinis.

concealedcarry
06-08-2006, 12:03
USAF Security Police K-9 Sentry Dog Handler at Glasgow AFB 1964- 1966 with 91 st Bomb Wing, Tuy Hoa Air Base, Vietnam Dec 1966 to Dec 1967 31st Security Police K-9 Sentry Dog Handler.

Chrome Dome, Broken Arrow, Seven-Hi, All SAC terms back then...Anyone remember them?

DyessSP
06-08-2006, 19:56
Oh you've been "Sac-em-sized"!

That is all I knew was SAC. Some of these guys today don't understand what it was like for sure

AF13
06-26-2006, 14:58
I am currently in AFROTC yet I have rencently received my job title as an SF Officer. What are some good base choices? pros and cons? What base for LE, ECT. Thanks

MrMurphy
06-26-2006, 15:06
Edwards and Nellis get a lot of LE action from what other people i work with have told me formerly based there.


I'm in Aviano, great base for traveling but the SF side is kind of screwy as we're heavy on the security side, but also have a lot of LE stuff going on. And the base isn't one base, it's 3 major seperate areas and 2 more we also cover.

They just trimmed down some of our LTs, causing us to lose 3 great officers, so I don't think you have a shot here. :)

meeko
06-26-2006, 22:16
Originally posted by AF13
I am currently in AFROTC yet I have rencently received my job title as an SF Officer. What are some good base choices? pros and cons? What base for LE, ECT. Thanks


Personally I would stay away from any command bases (Scott, Offutt,Etc and the AF Academy. Too much drama and overhead is worried about petty stuff. Malmstrom Montana was nice they wigged out about every 18 months or so on ORI inspections but thats anywhere. MT was pretty nice at least on the mobile fire team side of the house. I'm not sure about Germany and England they use to have alot of NATO tac evals in the 80's and such not sure about now.

Not to get on a soap box but, As a 20 plus year enlisted cop both active and ANG. Let your NCO's run thier flights. They for the most part are proffessional and have a lot of experience and will share that with you if you let them. If you stand quietly behind them as a shift commander etc and go to bat for them. They will make you shine. You will hear every exagerated accusation from the base populace on your troops performance (basically trying to detract from the fact they had the ticket coming) Good luck

concealedcarry
06-27-2006, 09:42
Originally posted by AF13
I am currently in AFROTC yet I have rencently received my job title as an SF Officer. What are some good base choices? pros and cons? What base for LE, ECT. Thanks

I would look for a base that has little or nothing to do with long range bombers, missles. Those bases are heavy on security. Look for a base oriented towards support or transportation. I have heard that Myrtle Beach AFB or maybe Charleston, SC could be a good assignment. Good luck.

incider
06-27-2006, 20:27
MrMurphy I believe we went to tech school together. Basic training as well..

I was your laundry chief for a while, no?

You were team 1?

torrejon224
06-28-2006, 12:32
Iwas a LE Superintendent at Nells and it is one busy place but the overall command is chicken**** and it's a showplace of the AF due to the mission, I'd try to stay away. Elmendorf was awesome and another very busy place, kicked back, good base if you like hunting, fishing and very cold weather. Vandenberg in California is another good one due to their mission.

rick newland
04-21-2007, 10:53
LE at
Nellis 80-82
Izmir Turkey 82-84
Chanute 84-88
Hess Oldendorf Germany 88-91
Ramstien 91-98

Great years great people.

odie072
04-25-2007, 11:54
DyessSP, Col Ralph Beckett, wow I haven't heard that name for years. I was an SP stationed at Ramstein AB from 88-92. The airshow disaster happened in Aug 88 IIRC and yes Col Beckett was Group Commander during that time. Col Beckett made a lot of enemies while he was there and was finally "fired" by a new Wing Commander (Col Carpentier) who was supposidlly brought in just to fire Col Beckett. One of the many things that he did was something called the 10% club. If you were within 10% of your maximum weight, he put you on a weight loss and physical fitness program. Where the problem came in, was you had so long to get under 10%, if you didn't he booted you. Having a couple of cold ones with the Operations, NCOIC a few days after Col Beckett was fired, Col Beckett told him that he had been given the choice of the Pentagon or retirement of which he chose the Pentagon, but he would never hold another command position again. I guess to many IG complaints. One night before all that transpired, myself and SSgt Collins were working CSC, when Col Beckett came in. He was hammered and he sat down and started talking to us about the weight program. His call sign was "chicken little", he asked us if we knew why, we both said no and he said "its because I'm the smallest SP Col in the Air Force". To make a long story short, apparently he was in during Vietnam and had a weight problem and he had a commander ride him about it.

Memories:)
odie072

BrokenArrow
04-25-2007, 12:26
1978 - 1998

Ramstein
Davis-Monthan
Nellis
Kirtland
Incirlik
Vandenberg

Various TDAs, TDYs, and SDAs.

There are no little green men at area 51; they are not little, they are not green, and they are not at area 51 ... ;)

sfguard
04-25-2007, 23:38
Have also spent time counting the rivets on a F15! Who could forget changing batteries in the taz equipment. Lots of fun.

G21-Shrew
04-28-2007, 21:29
Well, I am proud to say that I will be joining you folks that have served in the AF under what ever name they have given this duty over the years.

Aug. 7th I ship out to basic and then off to Tech school for 3P011

I will be reading over this thread when I can. And look forward to any advice you all could give.

Thanks,
Aaron C.

mark666
04-30-2007, 10:31
My favorite bars in order of preference at Clark:

Murphy's
The Zoo
Head Queen's ;)
Abby Road
My 5th fav was a newer one in the same area as Murphy's but it was in the square catty corner from the Wagon Wheel.

For them wild nights, The Nipa Hut. [/B]

I was air crew from 77-85 and spent lots of time at Clark, Murphy’s was great we used to hang at the 4Aces and Christens near the Marlin Mansion. To experience a real raunchy place we used to take the cherries the Fire Empire. I then spent 2 years as a base training NCO, I hated that so much I became a security specialist 88-03 retired out of SF. Good troops, good toys and lots of mind numbing boredom. What other job can you watch snow pile on a fence for 13 hours at a Northern Tier base because the alarms are down? Or drink so much So Ju that you can’t remember your name?

mark666
04-30-2007, 10:48
Originally posted by AF13
I am currently in AFROTC yet I have rencently received my job title as an SF Officer. What are some good base choices? pros and cons? What base for LE, ECT. Thanks

Ditto if you can stay away form the command bases especially Lackland.

bur54
04-30-2007, 18:12
I remember Dyess AFB and Lt Col Beckett as commander. I was
stationed there in the 80's.

I was also stationed at Kadena AB in the early 70's, when Ralph
Beckett was the OPs Officer.

I retired in 1992 and always wondered what happened to him. He was
the finest Commander in had in 21 years. Learned a lot from him.

MrMurphy
04-30-2007, 21:13
On the NCO thing for AF13.

My squadron commander, and half our flight commanders (formerly, all but one, but deployments and things moved everyone around) are former SF NCOs. My flight commander has 20 in, used to be a tech, now he's a captain.

95% of the time, we see him on recons driving around, once in a while he sticks his head in at guard mount, where he (unless he has something to pass on from a meeting) generally just stands there and watches. When you've got a pair of 20 year master sergeants as flight chief and a pair of 12-15 year Techs under them..... very, very little needs to be said, they handle almost everything.

freedom790
08-14-2008, 01:45
I don't mean to revive a dead thread, but I absolutely have to put one in for FE Warren AFB and God bless the missile field!

MrMurphy
08-14-2008, 02:53
Freedom, you're about to get one hell of a captain coming your way.

Name's McGillicuddy, former NCO. Used to be the K9 purchaser for the Air Force among other things. He's going for ops officer of the convoy unit I think.

freedom790
08-14-2008, 13:05
Freedom, you're about to get one hell of a captain coming your way.

Name's McGillicuddy, former NCO. Used to be the K9 purchaser for the Air Force among other things. He's going for ops officer of the convoy unit I think.

He will be coming to an outstanding unit then, I won't claim we are the best in the business, but we sure are a tight knit kick *** squadron. We will be glad to have him with us.

(although it is my personal opinion that we are the best)

sfguard
08-15-2008, 00:21
I know there are some others on this board. I am not going to mention names but I have a couple of people in my unit that are GT members. They haven't logged on yet

Raven 1021
09-04-2008, 23:42
Hello Defenders! It's very cool to see Security Police/Forces folks here. Take care and stay safe.

182 AW/SFS Peoria, IL

RonS
09-11-2008, 18:22
81250 with the 410 Bomb Wing, K. I. Sawyer, two tours. (Yeah, we liked it up there, back when it used to snow a little bit.) A year on CCK airbase in Taiwan in between with the 6217th. That was during the post Viet Nam drawdown, so when I got there we had 8000 guys, F-4s and KC135s and when I left we had lots of empty hangers and barracks.

If they hadn't combined the LE and Security MOSs I would have probably reupped,but they made the MOS 81520 and told us we would be assigned as needed. Since one flight of security numbered more than all the LE flights put together, that put the writting on the wall.

I was on KI (tour 2) when the Canberra plowed into the ground inside the main gate. And no it was not my shift that talked to the TV crew and used the phrase "Mushroom Cloud". I was in Taiwan when Saigon fell but since I was already married I did not go on the evacuation flights, the commander recalled all the single guys to provide aircraft security. And I still think berets look silly unless you have a wineglass in your hand and a big mustache.

All you guys on active now, live large; this is the good times, you probably just don't realize it yet.

Ralff
09-11-2008, 21:27
Do augmentees count? :whistling:

Raven 1021
09-14-2008, 22:01
Do augmentees count? :whistling:


HA! I say yes. I do miss the ARCV. Now I think most places are getting Contract Security,,, Which scares me............

Ralff
09-18-2008, 18:21
HA! I say yes. I do miss the ARCV. Now I think most places are getting Contract Security,,, Which scares me............

We already have contracted security at Patrick ... which isn't really a bad thing. Instead of an airman that doesn't give a crap you get an armed contractor who can get fired if they mess up. Plus that leaves the mobile patrols to us military. :supergrin:

*Paladin*
01-04-2014, 18:04
Security Forces from '92-'12. A little more than half of my career specialized as a CATM troop. Stationed at: Nellis (92-97), Osan (97-98), Fairchild (98-01), Malmstrom (01-04), Elmendorf (04-07), and retired out of Mountain Home (07-12).

crazyasian1
01-05-2014, 01:06
Holy thread revival Batman! Didn't even know this existed. SF Troop since '95, currently in ****ghanistan...

Glock45Lover
01-05-2014, 11:39
Maxwell AFB, 72-74
Clark AB, 74-77
Osan AB, 77-78
Maxwell AFB, 78-87
Incirlik AB, 87-90
Travis AFB, 90-92 (then retired)

LE all the way.

Loads of fun.

JS17
01-06-2014, 20:17
I spent 08-11 at Minot AFB with the 5th SFS. After that I switched to the reserves. I'm now with the 446 SFS at JBLM.

happyguy
02-15-2014, 10:24
Enlisted Oct 73 and retired Sep 94 AFSC 81199.

Regards,
Happyguy :)

okvet
03-20-2014, 13:12
85-91 Malmstrom AFB, MT - 343 MSS
91-95 NATO War Headquarters, Ruppertsweiler GE
95-98 Grand Forks AFB, ND
98-03 Misawa AB, Japan - 35 SFS
03-08 Robins AFB, GA - 78 SFS

Lots of great memories and great people.

jessebo
03-21-2014, 14:44
1985 to 1989 Stationed in Kunsan Korea 8th SPS B Flight, may 1986 to may 1987. then off to Fairchild AFB for the remainder of my short air force career. met a lot of good people, and a lot of genetic misfires that just happened to get promoted by virtue of having time in service. Sure hope they've changed how they promote people since then. LOL