1911 frame in .40 S&W

[coloradohunter]

Hey everybody

I love my glocks (23,27,35) but I also like how a 1911 frame sits in my hands. Being loyal to the .40 cartridge, who makes a 1911 frame gun in .40 S&W. I have heard that Springfield makes one but I can't find any info on the web at all. Any help would be great.

[Big Time]

Man up and get a 10mm !!!!

;f

[coloradohunter]

Wow Big Time!!!! What a tremendous help you have been!!!! If only I had been smart enough to think of that on my own!!!

[BuckyP]

Try STI Guns (http://www.stiguns.com/) . They make traditional 1911s in .40 as well as the modular wide body 2011 guns.

If you want to go all out, check out MC Guns. (http://www.mcguns.com/) . I have a 1911 .40 they've done that has to be handled to be believed.

[freepatriot]

Just curious, why are you loyal to the .40?

[Gary1911A1]

Sprinfield has in the past, but I believe the last one offered as a production item was the Micro. CDNN had some on closeout several months back and may still have some. Kimber makes a full size 1911 which might be the most cost effective for a quality 1911. The STI Trojans seem to need a special mag to work, but Tripp Research can provide you with mags for it.

[freakshow10mm]

I second the 10mm. Anyways, STI, Kimber, Springfield, Para Ordnance, Detonics make 1911's in .40 Short and Weak (sorry, couldn't resist:).

Kimber probably has more options that the other makers, as they offer a 5,4,and 3.5" model in 40. Para has the P16, used ones are good for the P14*40 and the P10*40. STI has the Trojan and their 2011 widebody frame. Springer has one or two models, I think the smaller ones. Detonics has that micro 1911 in 40, don't know if their 5" model is available in 40S&W.

Don't know about any raw frames other than Caspian.

[coloradohunter]

I am partial to .40 for several reasons. Both the 23 and 27 make nice CCW. Trying to carry a 10MM Glock concealed is like trying to hide an elephant in your back yard. Besides, in most situations where the use of your CCW would be warranted, a .40 will do just fine. I know quite a few LEO who would agree with me. Most of my shooting is done at the local range. Last time I checked, I was saving about $5 a box when buying .40 instead of 10MM. That's a pretty good savings if you shoot several times a month.

[coloradohunter]

Alright you 10MM lovers, tell me what's so great about owning a gun chambered in 10MM.

[G20man32904]

Originally posted by coloradohunter
Alright you 10MM lovers, tell me what's so great about owning a gun chambered in 10MM.

Dood,
If we gotta explain it, you wouldn't understand. ;Q ;f


Check the numbers at Double Tap Ammo.
Link (http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/index.php)

[WFBont7]

Just got my Kimber Ultra Carry in 40. Great ittle gun.

[freepatriot]

Originally posted by coloradohunter
I am partial to .40 for several reasons. Both the 23 and 27 make nice CCW. Trying to carry a 10MM Glock concealed is like trying to hide an elephant in your back yard. Besides, in most situations where the use of your CCW would be warranted, a .40 will do just fine. I know quite a few LEO who would agree with me. Most of my shooting is done at the local range. Last time I checked, I was saving about $5 a box when buying .40 instead of 10MM. That's a pretty good savings if you shoot several times a month.


So the pros you mention on .40 basically seem to boil down to "Glock makes great pistols for it"

Time for you to move up to .45 ACP in a 1911, maybe? But if not I would guess that any 1911 in .40 will make you very happy.

[yotecaller]

I have a Stainless Colt Delta Elite that I would sell you for a ton of money.;z But until you shoot a 10 you won't know how great they are.;f

[agtman]

" ... what's so great about owning a gun chambered in 10MM?"

Well, for starters, when you're shooting a 10mm it's quickly apparent that it's not a .40S&W. ;Q The big 10mm AUTO has more power, better accuracy, and more versatility of use.

As for a "1911 frame in .40," just FYI but a 1911's frame in .40S&W will be the same size as one for a 10mm. SA makes, or used to make, a model in .40S&W. A lot of people who want a 10mm 1911 have gotten their hands on a .40 1911 and then had the barrel reamed out to 10mm specs. Then XP Wolff springs are added, along with a few other simple and cost-effective tricks. Any competent 'smith can "convert" a .40 1911 to a 10mm in this way.

Remember, inside every .40 fan-boy is a 10mm man trying to break out. ;) Some eventually do and are grateful they did. ;f

Seriously, it actually makes more sense to get a 10mm 1911 first (say, one of Dan Wesson's models or a Kimber Eclipse or Stainless Target II), and then have a separate .40S&W barrel hand-fitted to the gun.

That way you can shoot 2 calibers from 1 gun with just a barrel swap. The stock 10mm mags and recoil set-up will work with both. Since the .40 and 10mm cases have the same back-end dimensions (or nearly so), there's inherent cartridge compatibility with the slide's breech face, extractor and ejector.

If you're even remotely thinking about a "high end" 1911, then sometime between April and June 2006, Wilson Combat will be releasing the first run of their "tactical" CQB model in 10mm.

Cost is said to be about $2100. ;P Sorry, no sniveling. It's a high-end 1911.

Check out their current CQB model in .45acp for an idea of what the 10mm version will look like. They'll do a spare fitted .40 barrel, if requested. (Yeah, getting the extra barrel will have a cost - not sure what, though).

:cool:

[G20man32904]

Originally posted by agtman
Remember, inside every .40 fan-boy is a 10mm man trying to break out. ;)

Sorry pal, I gotta steal that one! ;P ;z ;W

[agtman]

No problem. :) ;i

:cool:

[ILikeFtLbs]

If you are thinking about an STI, make sure you check it out before you buy. The compact .40 models from STI are very different in feel from other 1911s. The parts seem to be made smaller and exactly for the .40 or 9mm rather than a .45 with a new barrel and slide. The full size models like the Trojan are regular.

Not a bad thing, just something to keep in mind.

You might be able to tell just looking at the pictures
STI- LS9/ LS40 (http://www.stiguns.com/guns/ls/ls.html)