FTE's with my CZ 75

[Dobber]

I have run 1200 rounds through my new CZ 75B this week and I am still having FTE's. 800 rounds of CCI Blazer I had 6 FTE's. Yesterday I ran 400 rounds of WWB and had 7 FTE's. I am not sure what to do other than change the extractor spring with a Wolff. I bought this as range gun but I would still like to have it running 100%. Any other thoughts?

[dgg9]

The CZ Forum has good info at hand.

Not sure of the 'E' in FTE is Extract or Eject.

If Eject: From my limited knowledge of them, I found that the recoil spring should match your ammo: stronger recoil spring for +P; regular recoil spring for regular ammo.

If Extract: in general, Blazer's aluminum casing is harder to extract. Not sure about WWB.

[SonnyD]

Most CZ's don't like blazer ammo and lots of people have problems with FTE, the E in this being Extract. Something about the rim on the aluminum case.
It's possible you have a bit of dirt/grit under the extractor now and it's not getting a good grip on the rim. I'd check that, then I'd check the extractor hook and make sure it's not chipped.
A wolff Extractor spring is definitely a good thing to do.
I'd still check out my above suggestions first, flush good under the extractor, with Gunscrubber or something like that, and look at the EX. hook.

Regards Sonny

[Dobber]

The E in FTE is for extract in this case. The extractor looks good so I am going to change out the extractor spring with a wolff spring. I ordered a SS guide rod and 16 lb wolff recoil spring from Jack Ash last week so I will wait to see if that changes anything.

[22/45]

Try a box of 147gr and see how it runs. My full-size doesn't care for 115gr. I tried a few different recoil springs, but wasn't patient enough to really do smart testing with it. This was after CZ-USA sent me a fresh extractor spring.

[seamus]

I own several CZ's. ( a 75bd, PCR and a compact 40) and none of them like winchester white box ammo. I don't know why but they will shoot almost anything else with no trouble so I stay away from that ammo for my CZ's. They have no trouble with anything else though.

[22/45]

That's interesting. My Compact is dead-nuts reliable with WWB. In fact, it has only been fed WWB, S&B 115gr ball, and Gold Dots.

[Dobber]

I got 500 rounds of 115 gr UMC today and I will give it a try. I ran 100 Speer 124 gr gold dots through it Saturday and they worked fine.

[SonnyD]

Originally posted by 22/45
That's interesting. My Compact is dead-nuts reliable with WWB. In fact, it has only been fed WWB, S&B 115gr ball, and Gold Dots.

Your observations about your Compact are more often then not the norm. The only problems I've ever had with CZ's is shooting aluminum cased Blazer. Some CZ's don't like WWB, but that's not very often, but it does happen from time to time. It's probably just the luck of getting an extractor with not enough hook, sometimes just 4 or 5 swipes with a file on the inside of the hook will cure the problem.
My CZ's like yours, run flawless with regular ammo.

Regards Sonny

[4eyes]

I did the extractor spring evaluation for Wolff prior to marketing. Their +25% spring should improve your extraction issues.

Some of the early CZ75Bs had an extractor shape that would drop the extracting brass when the barrel unlocked. High pressure ammo functioned better than low pressure with these stock spring/extractor combinations.

If you continue to have an extracting problem, talk with Mike Eaglesheid at CZ.

For many related threads, see the CZ forum.

[Dobber]

Well the UMC worked out a little better. In 350 rounds I only had 1 FTE and it was round # 349. Maybe this problem will work itself out.

[seamus]

Yeah, my compact 40 in particular doesn't like wwb and in the past I had issues with it in my 75bd so I use s&b when I can get it and arscor ammo at my range I go to doesn't hiccup too much maybe it's mental insecurity on my part?;g

[Butcher]

make sure you don't over-lubricate your gun, and clean out as much of the filth from your extractor as you can. just a thought. i havent had problems with my P-01 yet :\

[Sierra]

This is an interesting thread. I have two CZ's. My first is a 75B, one of those Turkish Contract pistols. I bought it because I have shot Turkish 9mm before and it makes Wolf look like premium ammo. I have only shot Wolf in the CZ75 and have never had a problem.

My second CZ is a P-01 and that purchase was based on the great service of the 75B. It also likes Wolf.

Its sad, but true, that some 9mm's are ammo sensitive. My Glocks shoot everything, so do Brownings but I am suprised that the CZ isn't of the same pursuasion.

[Gary G23]

Simple solution:
1. Put in a Wolff extractor spring.
2. In situations that your gun has to be 100% reliable don't use WWB or Blazer ammo.

[pnarq5]

My 85B was 100% reliable until about 9-10 years old and 30k rounds. That is when the FTE started. I replaced mag, recoil, and extractor springs and she is back to 100% and shoots anything!

[kmrcstintn]

I have been reading posts like this about cz 75's from different sites; they're fussy with brand X or brand Y doesn't extract well; this spring needs replacing or it needs to be cleaned to work right...

pardon the bluntness...how does such a highly praised and widely used gun become so fussy? what is it with these CZ's? almost everyone who owns them swears by them, but there is so many reliability issues with them? not everyone has hundreds of dollars in disposable income to buy brands A, B, C, D, and E and in all their different weights to try this and try that to find what works and what doesn't

I owned 3 different 75's (2 B's and a BD) and all of them were fussy with the most common U.S. loads (Federal and Winchester); not enough powder in 2 brands (Federal American Eagle 115gr fmj & WWB 115gr fmj)), OAL too much in the other brand (Winchester 147gr JHP...my favorite defensive 9mm load); as much as I like the ergonomics, no semiauto is worth this kind of aggravation

:soap:

[elsolo]

They really are very reliable pistols.
People that have a problem with their pistol are much more likely to go on the net and ask/complain about their gun compared to owners that have no problems. That can give readers a false sense of the likelyhood of brand-X guns having problems.

If your CZ does have a problem, call CZ-USA for a return authorization # and send it back for warantee service. You paid for the warantee so go ahead and use it. Out of my four CZ's, one (.40)had a FTE issue so I sent it back and within a month I had it back and it runs on everything, even powder puff loads that barely make minor.

I am curious haw many people that have extraction problems with cheap 115's might have changed out their recoil spring to a heavier one because popular internet wisdom says it's a good idea.

[4eyes]

Originally posted by elsolo
I am curious haw many people that have extraction problems with cheap 115's might have changed out their recoil spring to a heavier one because popular internet wisdom says it's a good idea.

Mike Eaglesheid of CZ recommended a heavier recoil spring as a method to cushion the recoil impulse and to reduce the beating on the slide release pin. BTW: mine will function less than minor PF ammo (with the heavier recoil springs) that I load for a junior shooter.

[elsolo]

Originally posted by 4eyes
Mike Eaglesheid of CZ recommended a heavier recoil spring as a method to cushion the recoil impulse and to reduce the beating on the slide release pin. BTW: mine will function less than minor PF ammo (with the heavier recoil springs) that I load for a junior shooter.

CZ factory shooters Angus Hobdell and Matt Mink both recommend lighter springs.

But in general: if your gun isn't ejecting, try a lighter recoil spring not heavier.

[fnfalman]

I shot my CZ-75B for 1000-rounds without cleaning. That thousand round was about 400 of WWB, 100 of Fiochi, 100 of UMC, 100 of Blazer aluminum, 200 of Blazer brass, and 100 of PMC. All generic ball ammo with either 115-grain or 124-grain bullets. This shooting took place within three days of buying the gun.

There was one failure to eject when a non-pistol shooter shot the gun, but that was it. I was going to keep on going until the gun starts to jam regularly, but looking at the filthy pistol, I felt bad and decided to clean it. I've ran a smattering hundred or so now and then through it with whatever ammo I have at hand (usually it's either WWB or S&B). I have yet to have one failure of any kind. I think that the darn thing is up to 500-rounds without cleaning now.

[IndyGunFreak]

I've had no probs with my CZ 75BD and WWB, and varios JHPs.

Sounds like some of the folks are right in checking the extractor. I use a 16lb Wolf recoil spring in mine, no issues at all.

IGF

[RAH]

Any updates on your CZ?