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Storm Lake, KKM, Jarvis, Federal, Bar-Sto, and I'm sure several others...
2 main reasons people seem to buy them, more chamber support and/or conventional rifling for using lead bullets.
Question is, why did you choose the brand you did? I have an inclination to put a new stock length barrel in my G20 and I'm wondering why any given brand is better than another. Flip a coin? Pick the one with the coolest name?
Lennyjoe
03-27-2006, 00:52
I picked up a Storm Lake cause I've read good reviews, prices were good and the wait wasn't long like Barsto is. At the time I got it direct from Storm Lake for $139 delivered cause there wasn't anything available from Topglock. Now I see they have them for $98 so that's a great deal in my eyes.
Chamber support is alot tighter, better support than the Glock and is drop in. Accuracy is great and I can shoot lead as well. Take a hard look at Storm Lake if your on a budget. For the price they are a quality barrel.
No that this helps any, but I bought my FedArms bbls so that I could shoot lead thru them. I cast my own so that I can afford to practice a lot. A side benefit is all that free 40 and 357sig brass laying around the range- my bbls allow me to shoot that weenie stuff thru my G29.:cool:
good experiences with kkm for lead and better accuracy
There are a number of good choices for replacement/aftermarket barrels and to be quite honest....10MM barrel makers are doing a very good job and I don't know of a current 10mm G 20 barrel manufacturer that isn't producing very good quality barrels.
So, you can basically spend what ever you desire and take your choice.
Within the group of barrel makers mentioned, you can pretty much pick the manufacturer and get improvments across the board in terms of accuracy and brass life.
You can spend a lot, or a lot less, and have exc. results either way and in general, neither high dollar or lower dollar barrels from the makers mentioned, will buy you much more, or any less.
Fact is, all my Storm Lake barrels exhibit exceptional accuracy and I would stack them against any makers barrels....regardless of price. But the good thing is, you can pretty much spend about what you want and be assured a good barrel these days.
That's about as good as it EVER gets.
Paul
Hmph...
I may go with Jarvis for no other reason than my 9x25 bbl is a Jarvis. Or would that be a reason to NOT go with Jarvis... variety being the spice of life and all that...
As a side note, anyone know who the OEM is for Lone Wolf branded barrels?
Vulcanese
03-29-2006, 08:23
Originally posted by HAVOC
Hmph...
I may go with Jarvis for no other reason than my 9x25 bbl is a Jarvis. Or would that be a reason to NOT go with Jarvis... variety being the spice of life and all that...
As a side note, anyone know who the OEM is for Lone Wolf branded barrels?
I don't know who makes the barrels for Lone Wolf. Good question. I do know that Jarvis makes excellent barrels. Nice machining with a clean, finished look that is blued to match the G20. I would suggest either Jarvis or Bar-Sto (stainless) depending on your finish preference. Jarvis barrels have great chamber support (relative to Glock OEM). I have fired many very warm 10mm handloads through a G20 w/Jarvis stock length and 6" variety barrels, and the Jarvis chamber support is such that the fired brass will still slide into a Dillon case guage! Like has been said, greater safety margin and longer brass life for reloaders. I don't have experience with other aftermarket barrel manufacturers, so no comment in that regard.
Feel free to PM me if you have more questions.
Doxadude
03-29-2006, 10:55
I have a federal stock length barrel for shooting lead and I got a 6 inch stormlake barrel mainly because the price was just to good NOT to buy it... plus I may use it for a little deer hunting this up coming season
Carphunter
03-29-2006, 22:22
and add one vote for a Glock 6"... like mine just fine.
RayRevolver
03-29-2006, 23:30
I was looking for something like a 5" for my G20 and found the Federal Arms threaded barrel online for $59. Its either that one or the Ebay one from Batten that I am looking at.
If I wanted a 6" I would go for a Storm Lake, the rest are a touch pricey.
Any thoughts on 5" barrels?
Cheers
Ray
I have heard a lot of great things about KKM barrels for the 29. I'm not sure if all the barrel suppliers make barrels for the 29, but KKM had them in stock and they are a drop-in. I ordered my barrel to arrive at the same time I picked up my new 29 and installed the KKM before I ever fired the pistol. The GLock barrel went in the drawer unfired. I'm at around 200 rounds so far and the KKM is stone reliable, very accurate, and has a well supported chamber throat. I shoot almost entirely reloads, so preserving my brass was very important to me. I see no need to use the Glock barrel when I can get reliability, excellent accuracy, AND excellent chamber support with the KKM (and others). Too bad one has to buy an aftermarket barrel to get that, but at least it's a good option.
I see there is a form to buy a factory 6" barrel in the Autopistols mag for $135 from GLOCK.
Thanx,
Vulcanese
I asked Lone Wolf who makes their barrels, and I got the "it's closely guarded information" Not something I care to hear, or am impressed with. So, who knows......could be anybody....
Paul
Originally posted by ppro
Vulcanese
I asked Lone Wolf who makes their barrels, and I got the "it's closely guarded information" Not something I care to hear, or am impressed with. So, who knows......could be anybody....
Paul
Which is to say someone you wouldn't buy from if you knew... probably a Chinese company or something... or those "Fire Dragon" guys. Bleh... Too bad, their 17Lc tube looked promising.
Many retailers selling a rebranded product don't reveal the manufacturer. The LWD barrels could be great, good, so-so, or poor quality - and you can't determine which of those they are by their refusal to disclose who the original supplier is.
DHart
Which is exactly why I don't buy those barrels from those providers offering branded products and who are unwilling to declare the manufacturer....there are to many good barrels to be had where you at least know the manufacturer. I much prefer to be able to go directly to the manufacturer if I do have a problem with a barrel.
It's just a personal choice thing but I have a much higher comfort level this way.
Paul
Paul... yes, and that's why I buy name brand barrels too! ;)
JoeSnuffy
04-04-2006, 21:17
The LWD barrels are probably good...I don't think JR
would risk his rep or company business on junk..
416R stainless is used by EKF and Barstow 4150 by Jarvis
and 416 stainless by everyone else..
For $89 and change as far as I'm concerned they are worth
a shot...
416/416R nothing special.
High sulfer free machining stainless popular because it IS free machining.
Rockwell 40-42 for Storm Lake machine Glock bbls.
4150 is pretty good steel.
Paul
RayRevolver
04-14-2006, 00:59
Just got this in the mail today. Not bad for $53.97!
http://wolfenstein-racing.com/images/glock 20.jpg
Glockman454
04-14-2006, 11:58
I have been doing a bit of homework regarding a new barrel for my G20. In short I have concluded most aftermarket barrels are "good enough" but Jarvis is machined from "certified barrel stock". I priced a KKM and Jarvis and Jarvis was only $20.00 more. Considering the idea of certified barrel stock and I shoot hot loads I would not let $20.00 stand in the way of peace of mind.
I wondered about the Lone Wolf generic brand. Obviously there is no way I can say for sure, but their barrel may be manufactured by a reputable company opposed to a foreign made. If it is anything like many aftermarket car parts (I used to manage automotive shops) the house brand may be made by any of the lower priced name brand manufacturers like Storm-Lake, Federal etc.
just my 2 cents worth
Certified barrel stock? That's a new one on me...
Normally certified steels are lot specific and meet the manufacturers specifications. The manufacturer provides the certifications as needed and the information accompanies the steel which is appropiately marked and paperwork supporting the specification can be/is provided to the purchaser or manufacturer or both.
The practice is common for a many applications.
What it means as compared to non-certified lots of steel, is that there is a recordable tracable trail leading back to the manufacturer of that lot of steel and it normally means that the steel has been tested and meets the specification, or at least it is guaranteed to meet the specification.
The difference is, that the steel provided is made to a provable standard versus a steel simply declared to meet a given standard.
It makes sense to use certified steels for barrel applications anyway as they are more predictable in the machining and broaching processes.
So called grades of steel made in different parts of the world (for example) can exhibit different characteristics even though they are supposed to meet a composition standard, unless they are certified.
hope this helps a little bit.
Paul
Hope that helps.
Regardless of who makes a product for a company, if that manufacturer is making the product to tight specs what is the concern? Ain't all this stuff CNC now?
Derek
You would like to think that all this high quality is just a matter of so much CNC but in fact, thats just part of the story.
Tooling quality operator experience, material consistency and quality, and just a host of things.
Then there's the internal quality which gets into state of the art. Deep drilling, hole finishing before reaming or button rifling....broach cutters and their designs, quality and amount of use before tooling changes. When it's all said and done, CNC is (in my opinion) a great aid in barrel making, but so much more is involved that CNC is but one part of the overall effort, which is considerable.
By the way, Storm Lake barrels are made only from certified steels used exclusively in their barrel making process. Steel lots are accompanied by the batch test results and lot number information and that information stays with each individual lot as it moves through the manufacturing process.
They don't make a big deal about it, but it is nice to know.
Paul
My stormlake barrel for my G20 came in today. My main concern was with reliability. I fired about 70rds through it with 1 mag as fast a i could pull the trigger. I know 70rds isnt enough to draw a conclusion but so far so good. No problems at all.
Glockman454
04-16-2006, 06:13
Originally posted by HAVOC
Certified barrel stock? That's a new one on me...
Call JR at Lone Wolf.
Reyn 61
" I fired about 70rds through it with 1 mag as fast a i could pull the trigger"
Thats an interesting barrel testing method you have there.
Paul
Originally posted by ppro
Reyn 61
" I fired about 70rds through it with 1 mag as fast a i could pull the trigger"
Thats an interesting barrel testing method you have there.
Paul
LOL, heck i didnt realize it read like that. I should have said one 15rd mag was fired as fast as i could. :supergrin:
Reyn 61
That was funny...I got a kick out it.
Paul :)
Glolt20-91
04-25-2006, 21:49
Originally posted by Reyn 61
LOL, heck i didnt realize it read like that. I should have said one 15rd mag was fired as fast as i could. :supergrin:
And I was getting my hopes up for a drum magazine and shoulder stock. :50cal:
Adios,
Bob
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